TYM's Hot Topic of the Week: Do we ban Scorpion from tournament play?

[_xFriction]

maybe im your retarded little brother Julius

can i get a hug brother?

 

[Zatoichi]

Zod is a zoner with slow projectiles, I bet he gets MOPPED UP by Scorpion.

Hopefully.

Anyways, I think Scorpion is alright to use in Tournaments, people just need to know how to block Scorpion and his mix-ups. I'm still learning how to block his mix-ups, it's hard as hell to do that though since I vowed to never buy Scorpion but I'll get there.

 

[187x]

You know how scorpion says "to hell with you"? Well, hes actually talking to those people who believe in fundamentals, footsies, logic, etc.

But this game doesn't have any of that

 

[Haz DiAnte]

I don't use scorpion but i say don't ban him

 

[AC1984]

put a block button and call it a day....

 

[A F0xy Grampa]

Lol ..anybody with an average IQ should know why Scorpion doesn't belong in this game -- No explanations needed

Thank you! It's such a simple concept and it honestly doesn't need that much discussing, especially when the top representative of the character (so far) can also agree to it.

We throw out all the reasons why he shouldn't be allowed to live, ask for reasons why he should be allowed to stay, only to get 'level up' (still disregarding the fact that scorp players will inevitably level up too), or that its too early.

It's a needed debate, but still one that I can see making me grind my teeth like some super cereal crackhead.

 

[CRUM]

Zod is a zoner with slow projectiles, I bet he gets MOPPED UP by Scorpion.

Zod will be a complete non-issue to Scorpion players.

 

[Posthuman]

Level the fuck up scrubs!

 

[HGTV Soapboxfan]

But this game doesn't have any of that

It has fundamentals when you stop throwing out random punishable stuff at full screen.

 

[Minh Giang]

Back to MK9 and the community will be fine again .

 

[Ninj]

AK Pig Of The Hut -

IMO if normal teleport still hit mid, Scorpion would be far less broken. The fact that down to block isn't the means to punishing teleport anymore gives non-ex teleport a means to be safe. The reason I say this is after watching Reo play on stream, Scorpion conditions you to always feel unsafe even while blocking in his current build, because you have to make 2 right reads - first that he is going to teleport, and then that he is also not going to EX teleport. Even if he completely whiffs the normal teleport, you as a human being need to react first to him teleporting and THEN to the fact that it wasn't an EX teleport.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

Back to MK9 and the community will be fine again .

Lol, you should have been around in the period from late last year to early this year before Injustice -- I do not wish to go back to that

 

[redeyes]

Level the fuck up scrubs!

who are you to call f0xy pig and others scrubs?

 

[Xenrail]

uh hell yes because he's not even DC.

he doesn't even belong in the game. he's a "guest" character as noobde has stated, which means he's not invited to sit at the round fucking table.

 

[187x]

It had fundamentals when you stop throwing out random punishable stuff at full screen.

it never had fundamentals. Stop dreaming

 

[CrimsonShadow]

AK Pig Of The Hut -

IMO if normal teleport still hit mid, Scorpion would be far less broken. The fact that down to block isn't the means to punishing teleport anymore gives non-ex teleport a means to be safe. The reason I say this is after watching Reo play on stream, Scorpion conditions you to always feel unsafe even while blocking in his current build, because you have to make 2 right reads - first that he is going to teleport, and then that he is also not going to EX teleport. Even if he completely whiffs the normal teleport, you as a human being need to react first to him teleporting and THEN to the fact that it wasn't an EX teleport.

Yeah, this is one of the reasons that debates around this game are hard -- you have 4 bars of meter, gain meter easily, and a lot of people make arguments as if the EN versions of moves don't exist. So whenever people say "just block/punish" or "just duck" or whatever, they never seem to take into account that maybe the EN move has little to no disadvantage on block.. Maybe it's actually advantage.. When a good player has 4 bars to play with, the game becomes a lot more complex than simply dealing with the meterless versions of special moves.

 

[HGTV Soapboxfan]

it never had fundamentals. Stop dreaming

Maybe if you learned to play you would realize that it does

 

[Koor]

I say let Scorp rock till after Evo. I wanna see REO vs PL in a Scorpion mirror match in Grand Finals. Battle of the J3-Tele-YouGonLearnToday on the main stage in front of all those people at the tourny and on the stream. Let those 2 showcase the tip of the iceberg of whats in store for this game in the future. Then maybe NRS will step in and see if they can fix him without destroying him. Its gonna take that level of exposure before anything gets handled IMO.

 

[187x]

Maybe if you learned to play you would realize that it does

anti airs and walkspeed all you need to know
on a side note, who beats you everytime?

 

[HGTV Soapboxfan]

anti airs and walkspeed all you need to know
on a side note, who beats you everytime?

I haven't played a single person offline that beats me every time.

 

[K7L33THA]

I say let Scorp rock till after Evo. I wanna see REO vs PL in a Scorpion mirror match in Grand Finals. Battle of the J3-Tele-YouGonLearnToday on the main stage in front of all those people at the tourny and on the stream. Let those 2 showcase the tip of the iceberg of whats in store for this game in the future. Then maybe NRS will step in and see if they can fix him without destroying him. Its gonna take that level of exposure before anything gets handled IMO.

Seeing Scorpion in his current form on the main stage of Evo will kill off anyone taking this game seriously.

 

[LEGEND]

Seeing Scorpion in his current form on the main stage of Evo will kill off anyone taking this game seriously.

this

why is it so hard to just ban him FOR NOW and leave it in the hands of NRS to fix him later. We can't just sit here and let scorpion ruin the most important tournaments of the games life

 

[Koor]

Seeing Scorpion in his current form on the main stage of Evo will kill off anyone taking this game seriously.

And that may just be the kick in the ass NRS needs before they shape up.

 

[Haz DiAnte]

wow lol

 

[STRYKIE]

Rather him be bad than ruin the game. NRS just did an awful job with his design.

But then it'll be an endless loop of buffs and nerfs because this community's track record of correctly addressing a broken character (from their perspective) is abysmal. Just ask the guy in my avatar. And in the end, NRS gets exhausted from it all and drops support for the game entirely.

That being said, remember how we were wrong about nerfing Kano in MK9 and we should've just let the metagame play out? Whatever happened to that idea?