Injustice Complete Character Tier List + With Rumored Patch Updated 6-17-13

[TAS_DASH]

The Hawk Girl threads are even more biased. They think she has like 5 neg match-ups and think she beats the top tier people. when she is flying just back dash full screen and her mace throw can't touch you. You can whiff special moves as well to match or beat her meter building. Due to slow recovery you can jump a low mace throw on reaction and now she's in trouble. Flight is a gimmick... on the ground she struggles. I dare any of you to go to those threads and challenge them and somehow keep your sanity. That's harder than beating Batman with Bane. I think she's bottom 5 personally.

I think pig is right for the most part. I think Batgirl is higher, which he suggest is possible and WW is slightly lower. I do agree that CW is higher than 19.
My top 7 in no particular order are still as follows. I also believe that they have a significant enough gap above those below due to wonky tools they have that they shouldn't:

Supes
BA
Aqua
Scorps
Frost
Batman
Batgirl

 

[Vogue]

Hawk girl is almost impossible to block, but she can get blown up by armor moves if the HG isn't careful. Great HG players have insane mixups and can fly away all day to stay safe in a lot of matchups.

 

[DominicanAddy94]

So pig, may I ask what it is that makes Shazam so low tier?

 

[THTB]

WW is bad if you have no FG fundamentals.

From experience with practically the best user, WW is insane. You'd be a fool to underestimate her.

 

[Smarrgasm]

S tier IMO at the moment (no patch taken into account)
Aquaman, Batman, Superman, Frost, Black Adam, WW, Scorpion, Batgirl

Other good ass characters
Lantern, Deathstroke, Doomsday, Sinestro

Characters that are being slept on and i think are gonna be really viable in the metagame
Flash, Raven, Nightwing, Catwoman

So thats 16 characters that i have a hard time believing cant hold their own in a tournament.

With the supposed nerfs, I believe Black Adam will drop slightly as well as frost. Not sure about much else.

 

[DOOMSDAY-15RUS-]

 

[Zyphox]

i just lol at all the players who put batman top 5...... i feel like he is so overrated, i do believe killer frost is slightly overrated as well, especially with rumored nerfs. but am not ready to make an opinion about tier list and such, the game has been out 2 months.....

 

[ceemurda]

The Hawk Girl threads are even more biased. They think she has like 5 neg match-ups and think she beats the top tier people. when she is flying just back dash full screen and her mace throw can't touch you. You can whiff special moves as well to match or beat her meter building. Due to slow recovery you can jump a low mace throw on reaction and now she's in trouble. Flight is a gimmick... on the ground she struggles. I dare any of you to go to those threads and challenge them and somehow keep your sanity. That's harder than beating Batman with Bane. I think she's bottom 5 personally.

I think pig is right for the most part. I think Batgirl is higher, which he suggest is possible and WW is slightly lower. I do agree that CW is higher than 19.
My top 7 in no particular order are still as follows. I also believe that they have a significant enough gap above those below due to wonky tools they have that they shouldn't:

Supes
BA
Aqua
Scorps
Frost
Batman
Batgirl

You know that you can meter burn mase toss at anytime right? And it carrys armor properties and the shoulder bump is plus on block? And being able to fly instantly over many characters neutral game is far from a gimmick.. I hope I helped you see the big picture a lil bit

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[That__John__Guy]

KF currently loses to BA and can go 5-5 w Batman, Aquaman possibly Lantern and Hawk Girl. Post patch if it occurs this will take a hit on her and i see her current 3-7s becoming as good as 5-5 or definitely 4-6 at least.

Pig, I respect you, but the consensus I have seen is that KF loses to Hawkgirl. Someone whose primary move is a low Slide vs. someone who flies. No air Ice Daggers. No Iceberg on a flier. Last I saw on the KF threads, Khaotik and 16 Bit both agreed that Hawkgirl was a big problem for KF, and people on the HG threads call KF "free" to HG. I'm curious how HG is a 5-5 for KF and not a bad MU.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

So pig, may I ask what it is that makes Shazam so low tier?

Hes very good but he just fell that low due to the process

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Pig, I respect you, but the consensus I have seen is that KF loses to Hawkgirl. Someone whose primary move is a low Slide vs. someone who flies. No air Ice Daggers. No Iceberg on a flier. Last I saw on the KF threads, Khaotik and 16 Bit both agreed that Hawkgirl was a big problem for KF, and people on the HG threads call KF "free" to HG. I'm curious how HG is a 5-5 for KF and not a bad MU.

Dude im going be frank and this is my best answer for this

me, tom, cowboy, king, p2w, m2dave, etc ALLLLLLL got hammered and lost 90% of games to 16 bit (Except master d)

Yet we all beat every other frost player we play or at MINIMUM go 5-5 w them

Please read this logic and you tell me why i do not read frost boards as my #1 source of info, i call bit or txt him then read frost boards

 

[That__John__Guy]

Dude im going be frank and this is my best answer for this

me, tom, cowboy, king, p2w, m2dave, etc ALLLLLLL got hammered and lost 90% of games to 16 bit (Except master d)

Yet we all beat every other frost player we play or at MINIMUM go 5-5 w them

Please read this logic and you tell me why i do not read frost boards as my #1 source of info, i call bit or txt him then read frost boards

Right, but on the KF forums Bit gave it a 4-6 in HG's favor.

 

[BigC]

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How long will it take for the community to realize you don't sleep on Bane. Bane is no where even close to F tier, he sure as hell needs to be atleast on the Same level as Joker, maybe B-. Guys need to visit our forums, learn our tech, learn the MU's, and actually play Bane before passing him off as a garbage F tier.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Right, but on the KF forums Bit gave it a 4-6 in HG's favor.

if only i could show you a few txts lol

 

[DominicanAddy94]

Hes very good but he just fell that low due to the process

I'm sorry but I still don't follow. What do you mean by process? :/

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

I'm sorry but I still don't follow. What do you mean by process? :/

Process
1. results
2. listing who i think has the most disadvantage MUs, most advantage MUs, and even
3. discuss with top players
4. remove bias
5. post

 

[That__John__Guy]

Process
1. results
2. listing who i think has the most disadvantage MUs, most advantage MUs, and even
3. discuss with top players
4. remove bias
5. post

If we are going by tournament results though, KF isn't even top 10. I still don't understand nerfing a character that doesn't even make top 8 at tournaments. Just saying.

 

[Zoidberg747]

Process
1. results

KF has never been in top 8

 

[xInfra Deadx]

Eh, what the hell, i'll bite, even though this'll be outdated when the next couple of patches come out.

1. Black Adam. Literally the most complete character in the game. You are a fool if you don't think he's top 2.
2. Killer Frost. I'll be glad when she gets nerfed to hell so I can expose all you hypocrites that laughed at us when DS got the nerf hammer...i'm watching all of you closely...
3. Superman. Still a dick. His zoning is overrated but F2,3 is still hard to get around.
4. Scorpion. Goes completely against the mechanics of this game and plays more like an omega Kung Lao which is bad news for some...
5. Batgirl. She's more irritating than a bad case of fleas...and she moves like one too. If it weren't for Smoke Bomb being punishable as it is, she'd be top 2.
6. Aquaman. I fear I might be downplaying him a bit, but his mix-up game doesn't feel too scary...generating breaker after breaker 8 seconds (compared to DD's trait in 15) feels really dirty...
7. Green Lantern.
8. Batman.
9. Wonder Woman. I have yet to watch foxy/PL so take her placing with a grain of salt on this one.
10. Nightwing. Get cornered and ggs buddy.
Dark Horse - Raven. Completely under the radar...requires good fundamentals, absorbs projectiles (sometimes a full combo), has really high damage for 1 bar...she's a threat. Still getting used to her, but I feel like she's better than what some people are claiming.

 

[Doombawkz]

KF has never been in top 8

Bane has taken 5th in a EU tourney before the dash/venom buffs.
How sad is that, where Bane has better results showings than KF does?

EDIT:
How sad is that, where Bane has better results showings before even becoming a somewhat viable character, than Kf does?

 

[That__John__Guy]

Bane has taken 5th in a EU tourney before the dash/venom buffs.
How sad is that, where Bane has better results showings than KF does?

Quick, let's nerf Bane too.

 

[Vogue]

I say nerf first and buff later

Let EVO sort em all out.

 

[Doombawkz]

Quick, let's nerf Bane too.

You could do nothing that would be worse than what we've already endured.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

If we are going by tournament results though, KF isn't even top 10. I still don't understand nerfing a character that doesn't even make top 8 at tournaments. Just saying.

This is the #1 <------------------------------------------------------------- problem w this community

You guys think they nerf due to our bitching or tourney results, They dont. They understand fundamentally how fucked up something is and they fix it

KF has never been in top 8

Where did I say i only go by one of them?

Its a combination

And if you wanna talk about results I listed who he demolished handedly

 

[16 Bit]

For the record I did not say Killer Frost loses 4-6 to Hawkgirl. In fact I was skeptical when the KF community was worried about HG. I've said HG is irritating for KF I did not say it was necessarily a bad MU.

IIRC I've never made a post saying Killer Frost has a losing matchup.