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Question The Buffs Bane Needs?

RYX

RYX

BIG PUSHER
big_aug said:
So now there's no anti-backdash move for Bane after everyone said all you have to do is command grab? This forum is so full of shit lol

It'll be interesting to see what NRS changes if they ever decide to go that route.
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I'm pretty sure he means outside of knockdowns...
 
AA25Mamba

AA25Mamba

Batman, Scarecrow, Bane
big_aug said:
So now there's no anti-backdash move for Bane after everyone said all you have to do is command grab? This forum is so full of shit lol

It'll be interesting to see what NRS changes if they ever decide to go that route.
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I've spent the better part of this thread trying to figure out if you support Bane, or if you don't.
 
D_Matt_Ma

D_Matt_Ma

Sheeva isn't Goro's wife. Goro is her husband.
big_aug said:
So now there's no anti-backdash move for Bane after everyone said all you have to do is command grab? This forum is so full of shit lol

It'll be interesting to see what NRS changes if they ever decide to go that route.
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Not everyone -_- ... but if you made that mistake, I'm sure NRS will if they are actually reading this thread. At least we all agree on the Venom buffs (in that he needs them, what those buffs are... hey, we agreed on something).

I'm surprised the meter gain nerf while in Venom hasn't come up. If Bane gets less meter during the buff, shouldn't he get more during the nerf? Or should that meter gain nerf just be removed altogether?
 
RYX

RYX

BIG PUSHER
I completely forgot about that. That seems like a weird thing to put in. It's like NRS gave him a damage boost but wanted to just handicap him every which way all over the place. :(
 
RYX

RYX

BIG PUSHER
D_Matt_Ma said:
Not everyone -_- ... but if you made that mistake, I'm sure NRS will if they are actually reading this thread. At least we all agree on the Venom buffs (in that he needs them, what those buffs are... hey, we agreed on something).

I'm surprised the meter gain nerf while in Venom hasn't come up. If Bane gets less meter during the buff, shouldn't he get more during the nerf? Or should that meter gain nerf just be removed altogether?
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If you don't agree then feel free to put your own suggestions forward.
 
D_Matt_Ma

D_Matt_Ma

Sheeva isn't Goro's wife. Goro is her husband.
AA25Mamba said:
If by having a full meter the entire match for wager, and being able to pull off a super twice a match sucks.
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Yup. Because Bane always loses on wager because the opponent is put full screen. His super sucks because throw invincible moves stuff it, the damage without venom sucks, and his combos into it suck.

I used to think all that meter was a good thing... until I realized I couldn't burn it fast enough on things that mattered.
 
AA25Mamba

AA25Mamba

Batman, Scarecrow, Bane
D_Matt_Ma said:
Yup. Because Bane always loses on wager because the opponent is put full screen. His super sucks because throw invincible moves stuff it, the damage without venom sucks, and his combos into it suck.

I used to think all that meter was a good thing... until I realized I couldn't burn it fast enough on things that mattered.
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I use it all the time. Especially in combos. I'm all for the meter.
 
Citizen Kano

Citizen Kano

Noob
AA25Mamba said:
If by having a full meter the entire match for wager, and being able to pull off a super twice a match sucks.
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Yeah, but in fairness his super is pretty horrible unless you combo into it. All the opponent has to do is jump away. Bane's naked super is one of the worst, IMO, especially when you compare it to similar grapple supers like Doomsday's.

I'm glad to see the buffs talk in this thread and I hope NRS takes some notice. I've been maining Bane since launch and I find he's a fun character to play because of his mixups and shit, but he definitely needs a few tweaks. I think his two biggest problems currently are his health debuff and his hilariously bad Raging Charge. The health debuff needs to go and it'd be great to get a dash cancel from Raging Charge as others have said. I can live with his damage debuff after venom because once he's in it's not so bad to chip away via mixups. But to have shit damage and then a crippling health debuff on top lol it's brutal.

Otherwise, in a dream world I'd wish he had less recovery on F2 because it's laughably bad and Grundy style armor on some of his shit to get in against zoners like Supes and DS. But, I think if they got rid of the health debuff on Venom that'd do wonders for the latter.

In my experience, once Bane gets in his mixups make him a very viable character. His D1 is also amazing and his overhead double punch is a great mixup option (it'd be nice to get more damage on it, though...7%? lol). It's mainly his debuffs that ruin him, so I hope they change that since other characters (Supes, Grundy, Aquaman...like, everyone) get a trait buff for free with no bullshit penalty.
 
M.D.

M.D.

Spammer. Crouch walk hater.
After playing a lot of Bane I feel I would enjoy the following buffs:

1. Make his d3 faster like doomsday's (or at least close to it, so we can get those belly mixups going) and also to have a good 50/50 with double punch and d3.

2. Make him advance a bit more on his strings. I've had b1 , second 2 in 22, 11 whiffing so many times almost in their face, it's not even funny. They just walk back and even b1 misses. Make them more like doomsday 23 or grundy's 112 , for range. I mean he has bigger arms than both of them jeez. 2 has good range but the second 2 is like Trex arms, whiffs on everything. Make it bigger in range or another string starting in 2.

3. Give him a 6-7 frame poke. Anything will do, just to get dem balrogs out of my face.

4. Make his trait button not buffer/count/get registered in strings. I want to be able to press 1 2 4 3 and still get 1 2 3 with a venom upgraded. I've had this happen a million times: b23 succeeds at lvl 1 venom, omg I have to continue the string, 1 2 3 SUPERbut by the time i'm done with 123 venom is gone and i'm on cooldown doing shitty damage. I can't use venom mid strings but I think that would be an awesome addition.

5. Make his super not whiff at all against throw invincible moves. I mean it's a super for pete's sake.

6. Give him a full screen elbow drop!!!!!

There :p
 
RYX

RYX

BIG PUSHER
Added the following

Command grab and MB variant scale less in combos
AA grab does more damage and has only one grab(Not sure if possible)
 
LEGI0N47

LEGI0N47

I like to play bad characters
RYX said:
Added the following

Command grab and MB variant scale less in combos
AA grab does more damage and has only one grab(Not sure if possible)
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Good additions.

On the air throw how about being able to change directions like MB command grab. Or perhaps making it an input like DB1B goes behind you for example. Just an idea. But tbh one direction is good and I'd be fine with that if possible.
 
RexyWrecks

RexyWrecks

RTSD All Day. I'm going in. No Vaseline.
Play the damn game and stop asking for buffs. These kind of threads are getting annoying.
 
CappuccinoJak

CappuccinoJak

Noob
i don't play bane, but my friend does and he has a hard time against batman/frost/womderwoman etc all because they can parry his venomed rush. i 1st did the parry accidentally against him and thought he'd beat me. then he put some venom into it and i still beat it! wtf?
 
RexyWrecks

RexyWrecks

RTSD All Day. I'm going in. No Vaseline.
RYX said:
How do you?

And if these threads annoy you then don't look at them. All there is to it.
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There all over TYM. Stop making assumptions that I don't know the character just because my avatar pic is a picture of Shazam. Learn to play with your character instead of asking for buffs when the game hasn't even been out for a month.
 
RYX

RYX

BIG PUSHER
RexyWrecks said:
There all over TYM. Stop making assumptions that I don't know the character just because my avatar pic is a picture of Shazam. Learn to play with your character instead of asking for buffs when the game hasn't even been out for a month.
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I'd body you in a mirror match.


That said, get blocked.
 
PND_Mustard

PND_Mustard

"More stealthful than the night"
Elder God
RexyWrecks said:
There all over TYM. Stop making assumptions that I don't know the character just because my avatar pic is a picture of Shazam. Learn to play with your character instead of asking for buffs when the game hasn't even been out for a month.
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That's a pretty big high horse you're sitting on. mind showing us some footage of you destroying Superman/Batman/Sinestro players in a tournament setting before telling everyone what they should and shouldn't talk about?
 
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