Briggs8417
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Yes, Justice League Doom.Is that the movie based on the Tower of Babel series where......ra's al ghul uses Batman's contingencies to take down all of the JLA?
Yes, Justice League Doom.Is that the movie based on the Tower of Babel series where......ra's al ghul uses Batman's contingencies to take down all of the JLA?
I still liked it. They brought in some cool characters and made it interesting for me still.Yes, exactly that. It's pretty heavily altered, though (different characters, and some different plans). But the same general idea.
Here's a panel where Prometheus, who is basically an evil Batman, takes down Flash and Green Lantern at the same time. While the Green Lantern thing is a little screwy, he manages to neutralize Flash simply by lying about motion detectors that will set off bombs if Flash moves faster than a normal person:Gotcha!...Well if he wasn't meant to carry out the plans then i dont see how Batman could beat the Flash
Terrorism != winning. Flash still wins the fight, he just kills a bunch of innocents. Which presumably there aren't in a straight battle.
Eh? Flash doesn't win anything; he gets straight-up shot in the chest. Prometheus only loses due to some questionable writing involving Catwoman and, I believe, Batgirl trading costumes to confuse him, allowing them to beat him in close-combat. No actual members of the JLA are involved in taking down Prometheus because he beat them all.Terrorism != winning. Flash still wins the fight, he just kills a bunch of innocents. Which presumably there aren't in a straight battle.
Here's a panel where Prometheus, who is basically an evil Batman, takes down Flash and Green Lantern at the same time. While the Green Lantern thing is a little screwy, he manages to neutralize Flash simply by lying about motion detectors that will set off bombs if Flash moves faster than a normal person:
Stretching his "power" to much just breaks the stories. No one wants to read about how Batman defeated the 5th dimensional god using a paperclip, a straw and a rubber band all by himself while the rest of the JLA got shit on. It's silly.The thing is, even with how creative the writers got with Super Speed, they've stretched it about as far as it can go. But a power like "Strategic Badass" can really be stretched indefinitely. This is what makes Batman essentially the most powerful member of the JLA, because such a power gets absolutely ridiculous when it's stretched that far. It's almost like magic, because he can literally have a plan for anything, and he's got the gadgets and physical prowess to put those plans into action. And that's the way it has to be; otherwise he would just be a liability to the rest of the team.
That's true, but if that's the case, there's absolutely no rule that Batman is going to wait around to get his but kicked. His entire "power" revolves around the need to fight on his terms, so if he is caught off guard in a situation he's not prepared for, there's no rule that says he can't fall back to collect himself.but what people don't think is that all he has when he's gonna fight somebody without prep is his belt, that belt carries a lot of stuff but not amazon repellent, not speed force disruptor, not a magic bag of weapons that can be used againts anyone, only batarangs, zip lines, that kind of stuff, and a little bit of kryptonite sometimes that wouldn't even work againts superman because of heat vision/super speed mind.
That's true. His power isn't a crutch for bad writing. All I'm saying is that for Batman to even exist in the same world as the other JLA members, his "power" has to be taken as far as theirs. Basically, his "strategery" is on the same power level as Superman's bullshit, Flash's speed, and Plastic Man's plasticity.Stretching his "power" to much just breaks the stories. No one wants to read about how Batman defeated the 5th dimensional god using a paperclip, a straw and a rubber band all by himself while the rest of the JLA got shit on. It's silly.
finally some real logic!Lanterns rings are not magic dispute what Kevin Smith claims. If sinestro couldn't beat superman, Hal stands no chance.
That's my point. He shouldn't be at their level. You don't see Nightwing running around space and shooting Gods with guns or killing white martians by himself. They should just stick him in Gotham and keep him on the Justice League as purely a reference.That's true. His power isn't a crutch for bad writing. All I'm saying is that for Batman to even exist in the same world as the other JLA members, his "power" has to be taken as far as theirs. Basically, his "strategery" is on the same power level as Superman's bullshit, Flash's speed, and Plastic Man's plasticity.
I think that's the issue, though: Nightwing isn't on the JLA, so he's not meant to battle the same types of threats. And I'm not arguing whether or not he should be on the JLA; all I'm saying is that the Batman that is on the JLA and the Batman that's fighting in Injustice is the Batman whose power of being a badass has to be on par with all of the other crazy powers that exist in that world.That's my point. He shouldn't be at their level. You don't see Nightwing running around space and shooting Gods with guns or killing white martians by himself. They should just stick him in Gotham and keep him on the Justice League as purely a reference.
Psssht, haters gonna hate.That's my point. He shouldn't be at their level. You don't see Nightwing running around space and shooting Gods with guns or killing white martians by himself. They should just stick him in Gotham and keep him on the Justice League as purely a reference.
I honestly don't know a great deal about the Flash, but couldn't he pull something crazy like vibrating his hand through Superman's brain, or some equally ridiculous feat?Not to kill the hype out of this, but only Batman with prep or Flash with some crapshoot luck is going to take down Superman.
Perhaps the only other person who could have taken out Superman was eliminated by Aquaman first round because people are fucking stupid. Cybrog could just teleport Superman wherever and whenever, same with Aquaman. The dude is OP.
I don't think its as free as it sounds. Otherwize the Justice League wouldn't need anyone else to do anything.I honestly don't know a great deal about the Flash, but couldn't he pull something crazy like vibrating his hand through Superman's brain, or some equally ridiculous feat?
Flash beats Superman all day any day. The character is busted, however he will probably lose the popularity contest every time because all he does is "run fast".Not to kill the hype out of this, but only Batman with prep or Flash with some crapshoot luck is going to take down Superman.
Perhaps the only other person who could have taken out Superman was eliminated by Aquaman first round because people are fucking stupid. Cybrog could just teleport Superman wherever and whenever, same with Aquaman. The dude is OP.
EDIT: If they were to have put Scarecrow in this game like they should have (not too late!) he could beat Superman. Fear beats everything, except Batman...with prep.