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Match-up Discussion 2013 Ermac MU Chart

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
at worst im getting a free d4 off your iceball, i can totally duck the iceball that reduces block stun... my offense is not negated by clone more than anyone else because if i know my clone timings and u try to do anything i get in..
everyone knows the timing of the clone... so what...?

iceball is -27 point blank and has no reason to be done randomly and/or without a clone.

other than point blank its less - and dash duration is 16f, no, you dont get shit for free, just a blockstring which can be armoured before it even starts.

yet again, reads, you really dont get it, do you?
go ahead, get in, you know how stupid easy it is to anticipate something like that?

reply when you learn not weigh matchups based on reptile making a better read.
 

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
312 whiffs on low hitbox... ive never played an ermac that frame traps at fullscreen... does this apply to whiff or block? and regardless it frame traps into a block push, and its spit that beats out your fireballs...
spit can be blown up.

ALL of 312 does not whiff on low hitbox, only after 3, this is for everyone but sheeva and kenshi
 

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
If we play you are going to get REALLY angry. Because you think it's a 6-4 for Reptile, yet you will lose, a lot. I'll play you if you promise you won't hate me afterwards.
impossible to not hate an ermac player after playing them

i get it all the time with metzos
 

Seven

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everyone knows the timing of the clone... so what...?

iceball is -27 point blank and has no reason to be done randomly and/or without a clone.

other than point blank its less - and dash duration is 16f, no, you dont get shit for free, just a blockstring which can be armoured before it even starts.

yet again, reads, you really dont get it, do you?

go ahead, get in, you know how stupid easy it is to anticipate something like that?

reply when you learn not weigh matchups based on reptile making a better read.
Do you play on XBL?
 

Peckapowa

Champion
everyone knows the timing of the clone... so what...?

iceball is -27 point blank and has no reason to be done randomly and/or without a clone.

other than point blank its less - and dash duration is 16f, no, you dont get shit for free, just a blockstring which can be armoured before it even starts.

yet again, reads, you really dont get it, do you?
go ahead, get in, you know how stupid easy it is to anticipate something like that?

reply when you learn not weigh matchups based on reptile making a better read.
i get free things, you don't, matchup in a nutshell... your forced to burn meter and do something highly punish with low reward to stop this.
 

Peckapowa

Champion
If we play you are going to get REALLY angry. Because you think it's a 6-4 for Reptile, yet you will lose, a lot. I'll play you if you promise you won't hate me afterwards.
depends on how quickly i learn the matchup... but its online anyways it doesnt matter... we can also run reptile liu kang and i can show you how reptile wins that matchup... itll probably just lag and ill get pissed and leave because of how you play.
 

Seven

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spit can be blown up.

ALL of 312 does not whiff on low hitbox, only after 3, this is for everyone but sheeva and kenshi
No no no 312 lands completely on Raiden, Liu Kang, Sheeva, Kenshi, and I think Stryker. And also Shang Tsung.
 

Seven

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depends on how quickly i learn the matchup... but its online anyways it doesnt matter... we can also run reptile liu kang and i can show you how reptile wins that matchup... itll probably just lag and ill get pissed and leave because of how you play.
Yes I want to learn the Liu Kang - Reptile MU, and I'll be on various times this weekend, we can do all our MUs. Also I really feel Liu Kang goes 5-5 with Cage, even though everyone disagrees, we can do that MU too. R u going to EVO?
 

Peckapowa

Champion
both sides zoning can be blown up
yes, but there are times where i get free pressure opportunities, and there are times where you don't....one spit on hit for me is forceball / ex force ball time/ on whiff (max distance) it gives me another spit which forces you to either ex freeze or slide as a read.... one freeze for you on a read is a combo... however if at speific times when i counter this i get pressure... or worst a dash into a jump for a full combo on a read.
 

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
yes, but there are times where i get free pressure opportunities, and there are times where you don't....one spit on hit for me is forceball / ex force ball time/ on whiff (max distance) it gives me another spit which forces you to either ex freeze or slide as a read.... one freeze for you on a read is a combo... however if at speific times when i counter this i get pressure... or worst a dash into a jump for a full combo on a read.
there are LOADS of things you can say about both sides zoning pressure, check the subzero forums for a more indepth analysis because i really dont wanna write walls while derailing the thread, THTB has also posted there and explained
 

Metzos

You will BOW to me!
throw.

you cant uppercut 2 or 1 on reaction, only on a read

exactly, youre gonna poke, thats the guessing game, kl can counterpoke with his D3 and hell be at +10 or +whatever your poke is on block

malaka TETIES tripes leo, otan amolas teties baroufes den se perni sobara o alos
Throws AND counter-pocking applies for me as well dumbass. F3 is at -f's on block. Learn to read next time, before you answer. What part of "see what KL does and then act" you didnt understand ? I ll make you understand tomorrow when we play. Also as i said before, i m starting to believe Ermac's d3 on block is not -11f after some testing i ve done with Hidan.
 

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
Throws AND counter-pocking applies for me as well dumbass. F3 is at -f's on block. Learn to read next time, before you answer. What part of "see what KL does and then act" you didnt understand ? I ll make you understand tomorrow when we play. Also as i said before, i m starting to believe Ermac's d3 on block is not -11f after some testing i ve done with Hidan.
D3 makes throws whiff but i guess that applies for both sides

that D3 of his makes a huge difference, the fact you cant avoid 1121 or 21 after it is huge.

bitch my bird lao gonna come after you like an eagle after snails
 

Seven

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Throws AND counter-pocking applies for me as well dumbass. F3 is at -f's on block. Learn to read next time, before you answer. What part of "see what KL does and then act" you didnt understand ? I ll make you understand tomorrow when we play. Also as i said before, i m starting to believe Ermac's d3 on block is not -11f after some testing i ve done with Hidan.
Woooaahhh!!! No need to get hostile. And Ermac's d3 feels kinda poopy to me, I use d1
 

EGP Wonder_Chef

Official Quan Chi Nerf Demander™
depends on how quickly i learn the matchup... but its online anyways it doesnt matter... we can also run reptile liu kang and i can show you how reptile wins that matchup... itll probably just lag and ill get pissed and leave because of how you play.
let's stay off topic here and let me mention that liu beats reptile pretty bad
 

Metzos

You will BOW to me!
Woooaahhh!!! No need to get hostile. And Ermac's d3 feels kinda poopy to me, I use d1
Dont worry about it, we are RL friends. We talk like that all the time. Ermac's d3 is one of the best in the game, dont know what you are talking about.