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@Frenzy
With sub zero, since its one of the most harder match ups, I usually do low fireballs on anticipated ice clones, for example: you knock him down he rolls back and does ice clone.... by the time he rolls i have done low fireball already to decimate the clone. afterwards he would do freeze ball or ice clone depending on the players motif. I personally would do Instant air fireballs to keep sub zero pressured... (beware he can slide under IAF) soo i do a couple of those till he starts getting impatient and starts realizing he is going to lose unless he gets the health lead (Health lead is key in this match) if you think he is going to do ice beam or some sort and your already in the air, do air fireball to help your air carry and you will avoid the beam... other than that just bait his jump ins with NJ punch or anti air with standing 2 or EX bicycle kick 19% dmg...
@JacopeX
The Idea behind of f+1,2 is to bully your way through inside, because both hits are at medium hit lvl, though they do not count as medium hits. Once in there face, you can do d+3 which is the fastest poke liu kang has, unless your versing another character with a faster poke like Jax, kitana, etc.... you can back dash and catch there limb with b+312. Also another good strategy is when in f+1,2 you can also use EX low fireball and if they get hit by it, they will stagger for awhile... and you have a huge advantage to follow up with a mix up.
 

Solo

Shadow Priest
Also another good strategy is when in f+1,2 you can also use EX low fireball and if they get hit by it, they will stagger for awhile... and you have a huge advantage to follow up with a mix up.
I. Must. Try. This!!!!



Anyway... any tips vs Johnny Cage. Everytime I play a Cage, I just block all wrong. He kills me with chip damage.
 
You just have to poke at the right time. Johnny Cage is seriously vicious with his frame trap block strings. I don't have much of an answer for it yet either.
 
Thanks for the f1,2. This is a complete game changer for me. I felt so slow and unable to get in on certain characters but this is what Ive been looking for to upgrade my Liu Kang. Sweet, sweet, f1,2.

As for Johnny Cage, you can down poke him AFTER the f3,3 or f3,2. If he uses 1,1 it will most likely be followed up by a down poke which you can cross over JIP, dont jump back, lol. This isnt always the case but unless you have a seasoned player I wouldnt worry about it too much, they all try to frame trap without knowing how to mix it up at all.
 
You can also use f12 as an anti-air of sorts that leads to b312 :) Or if you feel like being a comedian you can keep them in the air with the f12 string. You just have to be sure to mix it up with some of the better players. I like throwing in f3 sometimes as well since it moves you forward too, and it's an overhead so if they're afraid of your b312 string and continue to crouch low, make them afraid of the overhead and condition them to block high by using f3.

I know there's better options to avoid crossups but sometimes I use f12 to get out of pressure, seems to work most of the time especially on the annoying teleporting/crossup Raidens.
 
Yo, was just in the practice mode.

I was testing parry against certain characters and it will work against all Mileenas wake-up attacks excluding regular ball roll. It will work against ENHANCED ball roll, you just have to be really close first. Maybe if you sweep her or pressure her into a wake-up attack you could use parry once or twice until they figure out whats going on?

Thanks for the dragon stance suggestion, working on it now.
 

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I've been having the hardest time with zoners, specifically Ermac's difficult keep away and Skarlett's dagger cancels. Ermac I realize I just need to zone more, myself, but his push has such a funky hitbox I seem to always get caught with it. Skarlett I'm just at a loss for. The gentlemen who was using her could dagger cancel nonstop for the duraction of each round we played. Any suggestions? X3
 
What is the best mid s combo liu´s have?

312 312 312 bycicle kick?
Best midscreen combo starting with b312 is b312, b312, b312, f24 bicycle kick. That gets you 37%. I do b312, b312, f24 bicycle kick, which is 34%, but I can pull it off more consistently.

Note that if the combo carries the opponent from midscreen to the corner, you can't end with f24 bicycle kick because the bicycle kick will whiff. In that situation, use this following pro as hell combo: b312, b312, b312, b312, b312.
 

Liu_Kang

Noob
Exactly.

But online is almost impossible to do b312 b312 b312 f24 Bycicle kick .... With the third string of b312 is most difficult to catch the opponent to f24 because of the input delay.

I always do, b312 x2 Bycicle kick (normal or EX) like you do, you´r right, is most consistently and is just 3% of difference.

Thank you very much.
 
Don't end combos with EX bicycle kick unless the extra damage is going to kill them and it's the final round. Using it at the end of combos scales the damage too much and you'll only be getting 2-3% more damage than unenhanced bicycle kicks. It's not an efficient use of meter.
 

Liu_Kang

Noob
Humm, understand...

With the follow X-Rays is the same thing, i presume... Better to gain metter for breakers.
 
Humm, understand...

With the follow X-Rays is the same thing, i presume... Better to gain metter for breakers.
Not really. b312, f24 x-ray is still good damage. EX bicycle kicks by itself is also good. It's not about saving meter for breakers, that has nothing to do with it at all.
 
Not sure how viable this actually is for tournament-level play but tonight I caught quite a few people online in the corner and instead of spamming b3,1,2 I would..

b3,1,2 - b3,1,2 - Pause and start 2,1,3 but dont connect it with the first combo. This would almost always hit and re-launch people in the corner because they would start blocking low like always, lol. I was a madman in the corner tonight, quite fun actually!
 

Liu_Kang

Noob
Not sure how viable this actually is for tournament-level play but tonight I caught quite a few people online in the corner and instead of spamming b3,1,2 I would..

b3,1,2 - b3,1,2 - Pause and start 2,1,3 but dont connect it with the first combo. This would almost always hit and re-launch people in the corner because they would start blocking low like always, lol. I was a madman in the corner tonight, quite fun actually!
I Usually do that b312 and F3? (the overhead)
 

Liu_Kang

Noob
Can anyone tell me what a good anti air is for Liu?

Parry, You can use EX parry to start a combo ... bycicle kick (with certain distance)? I Think those are the best... He as a fast uppercut, too ...

Today i realize EX Bycicle kick is a good wake up move. But liu doesn´t have any good normal wake up, unffortunally.
 
Parry, You can use EX parry to start a combo ... bycicle kick (with certain distance)? I Think those are the best... He as a fast uppercut, too ...

Today i realize EX Bycicle kick is a good wake up move. But liu doesn´t have any good normal wake up, unffortunally.
I usually go for the uppercut, but it doesn't always work when I try to time it. As far a the parry goes I have a really hard time trying to get out when they go for crossovers. I'll try the EX BC, but does he have any pokes that works as well? I can sometimes get it with standing 1 but it isn't consistent.
 
ani air for LIU:

uppercut (9 frames)
parry, it's tricky but can stop a lot of JIP
jip , try to win the air trade and continue combo with b312 or F12 b312....
 
You don't have to dash, and in fact if you do you can't connect the combo, so don't do that. You do have to walk forward slightly. Aside from that it's just timing.
what is exact timing for this,and do you have any tips? I have problem connecting b312 after Xray. I hold forward button as soon as Xray is over (to move just a little bit), but I always miss b3 ?