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Question LBSH Are Kitana Players the biggest Down Players in the Kommunity?

Are Kitana PLayers the Biggest Down Players in the Kommunity?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 45.1%
  • No

    Votes: 31 37.8%
  • ummm Smoke Players?

    Votes: 14 17.1%

  • Total voters
    82

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Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
it's easier to play Auto Pilot Sonya,
you are rewarded for the most part for not doing much, so why go the further step when it's easier to just downplay ;) lol

Edit: Mentioning Gr8 because STB always does in each post
Because then learning to defend against Sonya becomes so much harder than it already is.
 

SatsuiYesHadou

Yung Kneecaps
16bit is one of the greatest if not the greatest kitana player but oh man imo people let him get away with literally everything. She's horrible but people don't know how to fight her. It's like the johnny cage and mileena era all over again.
 

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Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
The weird part is all of those disadvantage matchups make sense.
 
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REO

Undead
The weird part is all of those disadvantage matchups make sense.
If only these Sonya and Sub-Zero players would realize it's about how a character does agianst the WHOLE cast and not just their main that determines how good they are.
 

Justice

Warrior
This shit again? Really? And from a fellow Canadian too! For shame :p (Love ya Chance!)

I have always said that Sonya is top 5 since release and said she's #3 for a number of months now. The problem isn't Sonya players "downplaying" her, it's the opinion of the the rest of the community (and a large number of Sonya players as well) with the opinion that Since Sonya has an armored kombo starter and d4 MS shenaningans that she's broken. So when we try to teach people how to beat Sonya with their respective characters, we're told to STFU and :xKartwheel. Even with the MS shenanigans, you don't see many Sonyas using anything other than F1 and throw. MS B4 is the sickest sweep I think I've ever seen in any fighting game. MS 4 is a good counter-poke/jump stuff if Sonya has them trained to try to stop MS shenaningans that way. MS 3 is a fast mid. Yet none of these are seen as "viable" by the majority of the Sonya community.

I mean, evidently I'm the only on that's pissed right off that the biggest news in the Sonya forums is whether or not Curbo is going to go back to Sonya. That is just fucking sad. Riu48 and Morty post awesome guides (thanks a ton guys! I'm in the process of memorizing every word!) and Curbo's thread blows up?

Sonya's catchphrase should be "You will learn respect" since as long as people keep calling her broken, they will accuse us of downplaying every time we post anything even remotely resembling actual tech.

/rant off

My vote for biggest downplayers is the Jade community :p
 

SatsuiYesHadou

Yung Kneecaps
You were a cool ass dude, but thanks to that remark, your life is disqualified.
But its the truth I don't understand why people complain about her so much when she could be one of the most easily exploited characters in the game. I don't get how kitana players could be downplayers when people downplay sonya
 

Peckapowa

Champion
Cyrax 5 bad MUs? Kenshi 6 bad MUs?

And they say I'm the biggest downplayer :coffee:
i guess i could see it but i could see kenshi only losing 2 matchups when this game is done for, I REALLY believe he could go even potentially with all the matchup he said but lao and kabal.... i really think from my experience with it feel freddy probably 6-4s him his dash speed is too slow and reflecting freddy cant be done at fs and is difficult as shit midscreen, and understand that smoke can trade like a champ against him(but i dont see how smoke can regain a lifelead against him except for bait and whiff punish) and that reptile can just cancel his forceballs with meter and can dash past teleflurry and cross over shoulders, but i think kenshi could make these matchups even with his ridiculous design... i think he could possibly beat cyrax instead of losing too him....

i dont see how a character with NO zoning at all and above average footsies and very good rushdown is better than a character with RETARDED footsies RETARDED zoning and good rushdown... it always comes down to damage with cyrax but even fucking cage outzones cyrax....
 

xKhaoTik

The Ignore Button Is Free
But its the truth I don't understand why people complain about her so much when she could be one of the most easily exploited characters in the game. I don't get how kitana players could be downplayers when people downplay sonya
o no, don't get me wrong lol. I definitely agree with you. I still wonder how 16bit gets away with so many d1 cutters, but that the end of the day, if you aren't punishing it, or at least making him scared to use it, then why not continue doing it?

Alot of people still don't know how to fight kitana tho, so I can see why so many people would have her top 5 or upper top 10. BUT SHE ISN'T HORRIBLE :mad::mad:

the sonya downplay is hilarious imo. Death is gdlk when it comes to that haha
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
i guess i could see it but i could see kenshi only losing 2 matchups when this game is done for, I REALLY believe he could go even potentially with all the matchup he said but lao and kabal.... i really think from my experience with it feel freddy probably 6-4s him his dash speed is too slow and reflecting freddy cant be done at fs and is difficult as shit midscreen, and understand that smoke can trade like a champ against him(but i dont see how smoke can regain a lifelead against him except for bait and whiff punish) and that reptile can just cancel his forceballs with meter and can dash past teleflurry and cross over shoulders, but i think kenshi could make these matchups even with his ridiculous design... i think he could possibly beat cyrax instead of losing too him....

i dont see how a character with NO zoning at all and above average footsies and very good rushdown is better than a character with RETARDED footsies RETARDED zoning and good rushdown... it always comes down to damage with cyrax but even fucking cage outzones cyrax....
dude....
you might have some of the best info..... but try to end a sentence every now and then.
 

Peckapowa

Champion
It's 8-2. You would have to play someone as sound with Lao as PL to understand why that match-up is horrendous for Kenshi. PL's style combined with the weakness of Kenshi make it so he is the best at exploiting Kenshi's weakness in that match-up.
ive never used kenshi against pl, ive probably played him over 100 times online with mediocre connection but i get his style pretty well and ive always run probably 500 games with dab but not really used kenshi against his lao very often... so u HAVE me there with that point

i dont main kenshi... so i see im losing credibility here, but does he not have armor to deal with the teleport and a hit box lowering down 3.... i get lao punishes the living nads out of shoulder with a teleport and his pressure is really good against high hit box characters but i dont see how kenshi cant fight back with his space control some well placed reads and his 50/50 game and solid rushdown to atleast make it 7-3... kenshi has a pretty big ding dong...
 

SatsuiYesHadou

Yung Kneecaps
Lol idk bro she's pretty bad. There's so many important punishes people miss thoe. Like when kitana does a 21 and the 1 whiffs due to spacing its so whiff punishable but people just stare at and the same with f21 :eek: my bro is gonna kill me for saying any of this D:

xKhaoTikx oops forgot to quote :p
 

crosstalk

Kombatant
If we made a strictly MU based tier list, I don't see Kenshi being outside of top 5. If we go by Pig's recent MU charts, he has far too many lopsided MUs to not have a spot there.
 

xKhaoTik

The Ignore Button Is Free
This shit again? Really? And from a fellow Canadian too! For shame :p (Love ya Chance!)

I have always said that Sonya is top 5 since release and said she's #3 for a number of months now. The problem isn't Sonya players "downplaying" her, it's the opinion of the the rest of the community (and a large number of Sonya players as well) with the opinion that Since Sonya has an armored kombo starter and d4 MS shenaningans that she's broken. So when we try to teach people how to beat Sonya with their respective characters, we're told to STFU and :xKartwheel. Even with the MS shenanigans, you don't see many Sonyas using anything other than F1 and throw. MS B4 is the sickest sweep I think I've ever seen in any fighting game. MS 4 is a good counter-poke/jump stuff if Sonya has them trained to try to stop MS shenaningans that way. MS 3 is a fast mid. Yet none of these are seen as "viable" by the majority of the Sonya community.

I mean, evidently I'm the only on that's pissed right off that the biggest news in the Sonya forums is whether or not Curbo is going to go back to Sonya. That is just fucking sad. Riu48 and Morty post awesome guides (thanks a ton guys! I'm in the process of memorizing every word!) and Curbo's thread blows up?

Sonya's catchphrase should be "You will learn respect" since as long as people keep calling her broken, they will accuse us of downplaying every time we post anything even remotely resembling actual tech.

/rant off

My vote for biggest downplayers is the Jade community :p
dude..her d4 is duuuuuuummmmmbbb. hella broken. when it comes to ex cartwheel, a move with so much potential behind it should be punishable at least. kabal may be the most broken character in the game, but at least his ex dash is punishable, and look at the potential behind that move.
 

Peckapowa

Champion
dude..her d4 is duuuuuuummmmmbbb. hella broken. when it comes to ex cartwheel, a move with so much potential behind it should be punishable at least. kabal may be the most broken character in the game, but at least his ex dash is punishable, and look at the potential behind that move.
flash purry

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