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The Official Kabal Crybaby Thread

RampaginDragon

Loses to uppercuts
You have a problem with me cussing? FUCK. SHIT. ASS. COCK. TITS. Sorry, is that a friendship ender? This is a forum for a mature game, which would lead me to believe you are mature enough to hear some naughty words.

It's a dumb idea because if you ask if we can have a C tier fight, I'll say no. And then you have to either walk away, or hope you character is good enough to fight mine. And if we mandate this awesome idea, then people will stop showing up and participating. And then our scene dies. You can't dictate who I use, and I can't dictate who you use to ensure our tiers agree. If that happens, there is no way in hell this game would be played competitively, much less for 30k at MLG.
Pokemon is. So why cant this game? And again. I am not comparing the gameplay mechanics of this game to MK, just the bare idea of fairness in a tournament scene. And it works well with other games? Why wouldnt it work with this one. You learn to fight a tier or two, and you play in those tiers. Hell, you could play as many tiers as you like.

You didnt specify why people would stop showing up.
 

Alright RyRy

Florida Kombat
Here is a plan I don't give a fuck who you guys use. You are both cream of the crop with whomever you use. At the end of the day, if I am giving my money away, it will be to the guys I have played with all year. 5 mother fucking K, if it is to be. I don't care if VSM all play Kabal at Anaheim as long as King Emo PL get taken out. OK.. now resume super diva talk ;)

Exactly how i feel except the PL part. lol
 

STB Sgt Reed

Online Warrior
Pokemon is. So why cant this game? And again. I am not comparing the mechanics of this game to MK, just the bare idea of fairness in a tournament scene. And it works well with other games? Why wouldnt it work with this one. You learn to fight a tier or two, and you play in those tiers. Hell, you could play as many tiers as you like.

You didnt specify why people would stop showing up.
Basically what you're saying is..

there would be set tiers and characters in those tiers.

Each tier would have a cash prize or w/e for the top 3 just like every tournament. You sign up for whatever tier or as many tiers as you want to fight in. If you win, more money for you... and everyone has a fair shot b/c they aren't playing Jade versus Kenshi or w/e.

Sounds kinda cool.
 

RampaginDragon

Loses to uppercuts
Basically what you're saying is..

there would be set tiers and characters in those tiers.

Each tier would have a cash prize or w/e for the top 3 just like every tournament. You sign up for whatever tier or as many tiers as you want to fight in. If you win, more money for you... and everyone has a fair shot b/c they aren't playing Jade versus Kenshi or w/e.

Sounds kinda cool.
Yes. You got it.
 

Enenra

Go to hell.
Pokemon is. So why cant this game? And again. I am not comparing the mechanics of this game to MK, just the bare idea of fairness in a tournament scene. And it works well with other games? Why wouldnt it work with this one. You learn to fight a tier or two, and you play in those tiers. Hell, you could play as many tiers as you like.

You didnt specify why people would stop showing up.
People would stop showing up because they could no longer use the character they wanted to use. MK is all about the badass characters, and their badass fatalities, no? Isn't that what dragged all of us into the series? Or did you join for training mode?

Dude, I don't give a fuck about Pokeman. I'm glad you like it, but I know very, VERY few people that I even remotely care about who play Pokeman. I'd much rather play... Well, anything more fast paced and interactive.

Making people play specific tiers is not the answer, unless someone asked you how to kill the scene as quickly as possible.
 

RampaginDragon

Loses to uppercuts
People would stop showing up because they could no longer use the character they wanted to use. MK is all about the badass characters, and their badass fatalities, no? Isn't that what dragged all of us into the series? Or did you join for training mode?

Dude, I don't give a fuck about Pokeman. I'm glad you like it, but I know very, VERY few people that I even remotely care about who play Pokeman. I'd much rather play... Well, anything more fast paced and interactive.

Making people play specific tiers is not the answer, unless someone asked you how to kill the scene as quickly as possible.
This would GIVE people the ability to chose who they want because there wont be fear of getting a huge ass thrashing from the fighters that are better than you, or giving you possible free/easier wins because someone is using a fighter much worse than you. How would people have to stop using the fighter they want? IF this came into play, I could only see the community getting stronger.
 
Great, so just add 618 more characters to the roster, and maybe your idea would be more palatable. Until then, you be talkin' crazy.
 

Enenra

Go to hell.
Basically what you're saying is..

there would be set tiers and characters in those tiers.

Each tier would have a cash prize or w/e for the top 3 just like every tournament. You sign up for whatever tier or as many tiers as you want to fight in. If you win, more money for you... and everyone has a fair shot b/c they aren't playing Jade versus Kenshi or w/e.

Sounds kinda cool.
But what stops someone from using the top of the A tier? There are still going to be 6-4s amongst individual tiers, so you are no better off than you were fighting Kabal with a *decent* character.
 
Ok, you want a real answer. Because even then at the least it would be like 5-8 people in one tier. Which would work fine since you dont need 6 fighters in one fight.
Even so, this would be the only fighting game whose tournament structure uses such a format. No one else does this. Can you figure out why? Probably because most people think it's stupid. No one should have to do this.
 

Enenra

Go to hell.
This would GIVE people the ability to chose who they want because there wont be fear of getting a huge ass thrashing from the fighters that are better than you, or giving you possible free/easier wins because someone is using a fighter much worse than you. How would people have to stop using the fighter they want? IF this came into play, I could only see the community getting stronger.
There would still be 6-4 in the tiers. And that's the problem with the kommunity, instead of leveling up or using a better character, now we have to only play comparable characters. There is even less hype in that, which serves to only weaken the kommunity and keep us from evolving our meta game.

The best matches to watch are the under dog matches. It would be awesome to watch a Scorpion come out of never and take and REO to his limits, similar to how xSMoKEx made a 3-7 MU look almost even.
 

RampaginDragon

Loses to uppercuts
But what stops someone from using the top of the A tier? There are still going to be 6-4s amongst individual tiers, so you are no better off than you were fighting Kabal with a *decent* character.
Yes you are. Right now if your to choose CSZ, you biggest threat is still Kabal (not because of the MU). If you could only fight fighters of the same tier, his worst fight may be say Ermac.
 
RampaginDragon - No other fighting game in history relegates players to a specific tier bubble. Why should MK be the first? This will not be a good thing. You want your house rules? Stick to casuals.

And to use your own example against you, I see all kinds of under-ranked Pokemon used on top tier teams, and with the right support they do just fine.
 

RampaginDragon

Loses to uppercuts
I agree. This should be closed. People who like the idea like it. Those who dont, dont. I could sit here and argue all day, but with some people that just gets you nowhere.

Agree to disagree.
 

RampaginDragon

Loses to uppercuts
No other fighting game in history relegates players to a specific tier bubble. Why should MK be the first?

And to use your own example against you, I see all kinds of under-ranked Pokemon used on top tier teams, and with the right support they do just fine.
That is because of specific Items and setups that game has for each indevidual. This game is not that eccentric.