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Is Scorpion bottom 10?

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Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
MK9,the only game where the symbolic fighters are some of the worst and the top 5 is inhabited by a burned guy with pizza skin shooting balls like a minigun and princess who's face is a mans.

LEGIT AS FUCK

herpa derp.
Ryu and Ken were bottom tier in WW. Goku in Shin Budokai is bottom tier.
 

OutworldKeith

Champion
The division loaded. In other words, the bottom is so close to the top it really doesn't matter. As a community we have like 15 characters in the top 10 lol. To answer your question I don't know, but I can say he's in the middle of the entire cast. However, how can any of us truly evaluate top/bottom 10 If the top 10 isn't solidified?
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
ryu and ken in sfxt are gods.

about the last game,im having a whats a goro moment.
Ryu and Ken are good in SFxT, but I was just showing an example of a game they weren't, which is the first SF2.

Last game = this (Surprised Goku didn't give it away):


Which, btw, makes execution requirements for MK9 look like kid stuff. Basic level play is still execution intensive (Imagine a game where every character's pressure was basically Kabal NDC-pressure-style), and top level play requires just-frame execution.
 

Gilbagz

Joker here~
Question, do you guys ever use take down in footsies?
I realise it leaves you at disadvantage, but at jump distance people get so scared to jump in cuz of the d+1 anti air.
So people resort to dash in low pokes or whiffing safe strings.
The range on the takedown is pretty deceptive, i've been caught by it numerous times when I think its going to whiff.
And his ex-take down goes like half screen and has armour. (Probably isn't the smartest use of meter, but its screwed up my corner traps numerous times)
This is coming from an amateur players perspective so this probably isn't that credible, but his footsies that doesn't seem to be that bad. His d+4 has good range, and even though its neutral on block, you can link the take down off it. Once you get people to respect that you can your stuff going on the d+4 even if it is hit or blocked.

Again I got no idea if this is anything or if this is just stupid, but it looks like it turns his d+4 into a 50-50 because of the threat of the takedown. I guess you can just eat the takedown, because its only like what 8%, but it does grant the knock down so take down off d+4 could expand his game albeit only a little.
 

BT-joe

green is good
scorpion is a decent pick i also play the character but swifttomhanks is right this game is heavily based on the feet. heres my buff wish for the yellow guy...............(1). D3 and D4 have adv on hit just like every other character. to me giving scorpion footies is not a broken thing. (2). his 3,3,4=overhead make 4 an overhead then hes viable maybe top 15.
 

Scoot Magee

But I didn't want to dash
I dont see why 334 should end in overhead, I'm more for giving 33 a little more range though. This way you can punish blocked d+1's and stuff a lot better. Giving advantage on scorpions d+4 would be insane because essentially he would get a free 50/50 off any connected d+4. Advantage on d+4 could make him a top character.
 

kabelfritz

Master
Honestly, I don't think Scorpion has a solid placing on any tier list. He's a character whose success is largely based on luck. You guess your mix-ups right, you got it in the bag; guess wrong and he'll be shit-tier to you.

I have recently come to form a solid game plan with Scorpion that I think will work, but I'll need to mess around with it more before confirming anything. I'll tell you more over texts when I'm sure of what I think. :)

As far as Scorpion not being able to play footsies, I don't understand why this is being said. And yes, I am aware that it takes more than simply baiting them out with Hellfire, so don't post telling me that it's not good enough for footsies. Perhaps I'm missing something here, but we live and learn.

...yeah, so summary of my post: I don't think he's shit-tier, but he's certainly not god-tier, either. You think he's got a casino down there in the Netherrealm? ;)
sooo... random tier?
 

Eddy Wang

Skarlet scientist
I play scorpion since the release of the game, and i've won most of the ADV tournaments with him, i couldn't care less about tier list, just as i don't care about how everyone thinks Skarlet is not top tier.

Scorpion is not for zoning or to randomly throw projectiles, this character requires a high level of reading and calculation to when and where you will use your moves.

Tom Brady assumes Sub-Zero is Garbage, but there is no other Subby that plays has he play, anf that is because he knows very well the advantages and weekness of his players, and he has a great reading game.
 

Zyphox

What is going on guys, Ya Boi Zyphox here.
I dont see why 334 should end in overhead, I'm more for giving 33 a little more range though. This way you can punish blocked d+1's and stuff a lot better. Giving advantage on scorpions d+4 would be insane because essentially he would get a free 50/50 off any connected d+4. Advantage on d+4 could make him a top character.
he needs it bro.
 

BT-joe

green is good
I dont see why 334 should end in overhead, I'm more for giving 33 a little more range though. This way you can punish blocked d+1's and stuff a lot better. Giving advantage on scorpions d+4 would be insane because essentially he would get a free 50/50 off any connected d+4. Advantage on d+4 could make him a top character.
well 334 as overhead or 33 into takedown u can still fuzzy guard it. but extra range on 33 like cages ->3 wouldn't be a bad buff.
 

quandaghost

kung lao swag walker
man i dont think i really even want scorpion changed. I like him as he is, scorpion is a character that, you cant just pick up and play because he looks cool. you really need to know what you are doing take advantage of every possible opening, and be able to read your opponents accurately. Do i wish he could have a footsie game yes, but at the same time i understand this is a big downfall for him and i try to find ways around it. i love this character! I have played his since the game dropped. I think personally that scorpion is a character that needs to bait, punish, and vortex. Alot of guys just wanna go ham and thats ok, but we all know scorpion has no advantage on any string except 3,3,4 b/c random frame advantage.

That's a rather risky thing to do seeing as a character like lao can just d3, then do a 2 that you must block and then start his pressure. Idk what to do about this character, All i can do is say how i play him and what I do. That being said I don; think he is actually that bad, scorpion does have alot of things going for him. He does have the vortex, great damage potential, tricky set-ups, can double hell fire some projectiles, nice air to air game, huge comeback potential, and all of his combos put you in a good position for his 50/50's. Just my opinion though
 

Deadly Torcher

King Dingaling
Could'nt care less what tier hes on, when I catch some1 in his Vortex & finish it off with 2 1+2 tp 1 2 Xray, theres no better sight in the game, for me anyway.

When it fails tho, I get my ass kicked, but I could'nt care less.
 

quandaghost

kung lao swag walker
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Could'nt care less what tier hes on, when I catch some1 in his Vortex & finish it off with 2 1+2 tp 1 2 Xray, theres no better sight in the game, for me anyway.
When it fails tho, I get my ass kicked, but I could'nt care less.
try 1,1, spear, njp 2, (short dash) b2, jk, teleport, 2,1 x-ray that combo makes my heart melt
 

Flagg

Champion
Out of interest, do people think Scorpion is the worst male ninja?

I know some people will say SZ or NS, but i've never thought SZ was bad and to be honest, I think NS has a lot of potential. I do a lot of sparring with fr stack and his NS is really, really good and he doesn't use much in the way of shadows at all. Lots of rushing, lots of portal set ups.

Scorpion always makes me think of being a bit of a hit and run character, someone who punishes hard.
 

Enenra

Go to hell.
Out of interest, do people think Scorpion is the worst male ninja?

I know some people will say SZ or NS, but i've never thought SZ was bad and to be honest, I think NS has a lot of potential. I do a lot of sparring with fr stack and his NS is really, really good and he doesn't use much in the way of shadows at all. Lots of rushing, lots of portal set ups.

Scorpion always makes me think of being a bit of a hit and run character, someone who punishes hard.
SZ is really good. Noob is def worst ninja.

DAMN YOU NRS HE IS SO SWAG
 

quandaghost

kung lao swag walker
if you fuzzying the mix-up the scorpion aint doing it right. I hit good people with it consistently, and i've played people like rtm2004, osu 16 bit, red djinn.