Has NRS silenced the Mortal Kombat 1 critics?

[Jynks]

However, my polemic opinion is that the people who no longer play Mortal Kombat 1 have absolutely nothing interesting or innovative to say about the game.

This 100%... the game has been out a while now... people that like it play it and people that don't... don't.. so they know nothing about it. In fact the very things they often hate is exactly why the game is popular with those that DO like it.

This thread and others like it, in older NRS games and even in other games (see tekken or SF6) boils down to "yeah vs yeah narr". There IS no conversation as both sides are talking about a preference that is ALREADY made. No amount of conversation is going to convince someone that hates MK1 and Kameos to suddenly go "well I never knew that, actually they rock!"... and visa versa.

At some point the haters need to just fuck off and let the people that enjoy the game enjoy it. I LIKE liking things. You've been repeating the same points for over a year and how terrible the game is, despite it being super popular, selling gang busters (not just launch over the games life) and being one of the most played games on the entire ps5 beating all other fighters... my point is sure.. hate it.. but the things you hate about it, is WHY most people like it.

This entire thread is like my 6 year old nephew saying he hates his sisters bunny rabbit as it is pink... but she loves it as it is pink. No detailed description of pink and all the various ways light refracts of matter from either side will change that he just don't link pink rabbits.

Move on... come back for mk1, if you want, You don't even play MK1, so you really do not even know what you are talking about anymore. The "scene" has moved on without you... let us enjoy the things we enjoy.

 

[YagamiFire]

let us enjoy the things we enjoy.

If people criticizing something you like somehow doesn't "let you enjoy it" then you've got way deeper issues with that thing. I can't even imaging going into a thread with (lets face it) mild and often constructive criticism and whining "Guys! LET ME ENJOY THIS! STOP TALKING BAD ABOUT IT! YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE ME CRY! LET ME ENJOY IT! SHUT UP!"

Like holy fuck. Are you sure you actually enjoy it? Cuz when I enjoy things I'm not so fragile about them that criticism of them somehow ruins my experience of that thing to the point I need to write about how people should stop talking about it.

People are allowed to like MK1. I haven't seen a single person say "No one should like this game"...and if they did, they're a moron. People are allowed to like any MK or any game. Liking something is also separate from the quality of something. Some people like objectively badly made things, some people dislike objectively well made things (which is not a statement about MK1's categorization). Preference & tastes are a thing. Not being able to countenance the existence of people voicing a negative opinion about something because it disagrees with your support of [thing] is some parasocial shit. Get the fuck over it and get the fuck over yourself. This shit isn't your identity and you don't need to treat criticism of it as some existential fucking crisis.

 

[Jynks]

it isn't the criticism... no one gives a shit about that... no one cares what you think about something or why.... it is the fact none of you have made a single point in the last 37 pages that wasn't said in the 1st page. You lot have nothing of interest to say. No incite or innovative ways of looking at things. As you do not even play the game, on top of it all, you do not even understand what you are critiquing. Like I can't complain about some basketball teams offense, I do not know rules of that game

You are just stamping your feet like a 12 year old girl and saying "BUT I DON'T LIKE IT!!!" and doing that for weeks and weeks in every single post, and it has been over a year now!!

You are just repeating the exact same thing again and again and again.. ... ..

.... and it's boring. That is all.. you're just boring us.

 

[Eddy Wang]

One thing NRS does need their ass kicked is the server thing. They know they have a lively scene in Africa & parts of the Middle East, give them the love they deserve & fix the server issue

IDK why this is such an issue right now with multiple games when it wasn’t near this bad with previous ones & it ain’t just a NRS issue

Our idiot politicians are more focused on stealing money rather than upgrade tech for ppl benefits, if something doesn't benfits them, they won't do it.

Here is something i was able to experience.
The internet available to the public it's like a few generations ago and it sucks, even if i pay 30 dolars a month, i will still get shit internet, but if i manage to pay 130 dolars a month worth of internet, i will be able to play well against ppl in UK with 5 fucking bars, as well as playing well with ppl in US and brasil with a ping below 100ms.
I know this because there was a time in MK11 where the public cable lane was down, and they borrowed the elitist cable that only runs into presidency and politicians for an entire month and plug it on the public lane.

On that time, i played europe, brasil and US, even found GGA Jeremiah online, and in all these matches outside of Jeremiah where our ping went to 200ms were all very stable on the 80ms to 120ms, and i was on a wifi service, imagine the guys who had all the fiber back then how well they were doing with much stable internet?

They think they're fine where they are, so we all just suffer the consequence of no being born skippy, a lot as changed since then and i think the netcode for fighting games has also changed technology to something more hybrid between delayed based and ggpo according to what immortal was talking, and i'm yet to see a good response in this.

But that's pretty much it.

Anyway, i managed to rent on a place yesterday where i will able to use fiber for the next 6 months, i will be moving my things this week, so expect me to be able to play online in some capacity depending on how much on the finnances i can afford, my monthly wage for internet for now it's around 50$ a month, i haven't checked how much speed that it's going to provide for me yet, but we'll see.

 

[PrinceGoro]

I've only ever commented on something Tom said when either:

A) He was lying about something.

B) I disagreed with something he said.

Never did I make a thread about him, or mention him in a podcast, or talk about him in a status update without tagging him, you know, all stuff he's done to me.

I'll tell you what I told another poster here: You really need to stop jocking for Tom Brady. He does not care about you.

The point is, the manner in which you conducted A and B and the frequecy of it, was what promoted brady to talk about and call you out. Not the other way around.

Its not about brady, read the last paragraph again.

 

[PrinceGoro]

I don't have a need to white knight. I call things as I see them. When I don't like something, I'll say so, and when I like something, I'm not afraid to like it just because some other people don't.

My opinons on MKX and MK1 are night and day, and that's fine. Both are made by the same company, but that makes no difference.

What I have no time for is toxicity. If you don't like something, then be contructive about how to improve it. Support your competitive scene and advocate for change, or just admit the game just isn't for you. Constantly spamming "X sucks/is the worst every/I hate XYZ and everyone should agree with me" doesn't accomplish anything productive.

Idk man, you just seem to have an excuse on deck for pretty much every single misshap on NRS part, and giving them a ton of benefit of doubt( if i said tha expression well) in situations.

Strange you would object to it but alas.
And if its truely you just being 100% impartial then i guess i apologize.

 

[YagamiFire]

That is all.. you're just boring us.

No, we're somehow making you less able to 'like the game'. You said so yourself. Don't like it, don't read it? Pretty easy, man. Like yeah I get maybe it's pissing in your Cheerios that the most discussion MK1 gets tends to be why people don't like it but it is what it is. Spend less time reading and more time playing if you love it so much. I don't spend time seething in threads criticizing the most recent Dragon Ball episode and telling people to stop with their criticisms...I just watch Dragon Ball.

That seems like a REAL easy solution to your problem of being "bored"...unless MK1 doesn't keep you from being bored? Dunno what to tell you then. Play MK1 or cry more. Your choice. So far you've chosen 'cry more'. Maybe try something different? I'm playing CotW...maybe give it a try and you'll play it enough so you won't be so obsessed with people not liking [product]? Just a suggestion.

no one cares what you think about something or why

And yet here you are writing line after line about how it's such an issue for you...but also you don't care. Sure. Sure you don't. The lady doth protest too much, y'know?

 

[ImpostorOak]

 

[Vulgar]

The point is, the manner in which you conducted A and B and the frequecy of it, was what promoted brady to talk about and call you out. Not the other way around.

Its not about brady, read the last paragraph again.

Brady is a grown-ass man. No one forced him to do anything. He could have hit the block button like anyone else.

He's not a victim; don't infantilize him.

 

[Vulgar]

If people criticizing something you like somehow doesn't "let you enjoy it" then you've got way deeper issues with that thing. I can't even imaging going into a thread with (lets face it) mild and often constructive criticism and whining "Guys! LET ME ENJOY THIS! STOP TALKING BAD ABOUT IT! YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE ME CRY! LET ME ENJOY IT! SHUT UP!"

Like holy fuck. Are you sure you actually enjoy it? Cuz when I enjoy things I'm not so fragile about them that criticism of them somehow ruins my experience of that thing to the point I need to write about how people should stop talking about it.

People are allowed to like MK1. I haven't seen a single person say "No one should like this game"...and if they did, they're a moron. People are allowed to like any MK or any game. Liking something is also separate from the quality of something. Some people like objectively badly made things, some people dislike objectively well made things (which is not a statement about MK1's categorization). Preference & tastes are a thing. Not being able to countenance the existence of people voicing a negative opinion about something because it disagrees with your support of [thing] is some parasocial shit. Get the fuck over it and get the fuck over yourself. This shit isn't your identity and you don't need to treat criticism of it as some existential fucking crisis.

There's a whole lot of personal insults in this post toward Jynks. Did you, "shit yourself?"


I can't remember the last time any of you offered constructive criticism outside of, "NRS is woke because Sektor has a vagina."

That's what I've always pushed back against: Shit criticisms.

"Outworld isn't purple."

"Sektor is woke because woman."

"This character that NRS said was going to be different is different. I am shocked. How could they?"

"Bring back O'Naga!"

"I can't jerk off to Tanya anymore."

Criticize the aggressive monetization, the African netcode situation, the lack of features, that's all fine.

Or criticize the game play. But your ilk never does that because none of you play the game. Even when you do it's, "I know Sub Zero and Cyrax is good but I just can't stand the animations because of reasons lol."

It's rarely anything substantive or something that hasn't already been said.

Unserious people with nothing valuable to add, really.

 

[ReD WolF]

I don't have a need to white knight. I call things as I see them. When I don't like something, I'll say so, and when I like something, I'm not afraid to like it just because some other people don't.

My opinons on MKX and MK1 are night and day, and that's fine. Both are made by the same company, but that makes no difference.

What I have no time for is toxicity. If you don't like something, then be contructive about how to improve it. Support your competitive scene and advocate for change, or just admit the game just isn't for you. Constantly spamming "X sucks/is the worst ever/I hate XYZ and everyone should agree with me" doesn't accomplish anything productive.

Dude, you've been white knighting this game pretty hard since day 1. Come on.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

Dude, you've been white knighting this game pretty hard since day 1. Come on.

I like the game and I've always seen the potential in it since day one. I've also spoken about things I felt needed to be improved or changed, starting from the very beginning with the helicopter meta.

Just about everything I predicted early on has happened (substantial buffs to a lot of the cast, buffs to kameos, additions to increase depth).

I think people are so used to toxicity that they don't understand constructive criticism exists.

 

[Subby Z]

I wanna chime in.

So I think maybe there’s a mix up here possibly. I don’t even want to shit on this game anymore mainly because I don’t care about this game.

My main complaints come because I don’t want anything in this game to carry forward. Like at all. None of it. I checked out from the initial trailers and was like well maybe there’s hope for games after that.

Idk if anyone else feels that way but that’s where I’m coming from. MK1 is the first game I actively just did not like. I hate everything lore wise they did to the characters and I’ll be honest I’m not a huge Bi-han fan. This game seemed like the Bi-han show from the get go and maybe that’s because they didn’t have Hanzo to promote. Idk but just yeah lots of decisions I wasn’t a fan of. Kameos turned me off as well.

So by all means I am not saying anyone can’t enjoy the game. Enjoy the fuck out of it. By all means, but I should be able to voice my opinion (and others should as well) about how we don’t want any of this in the next game.

Should we all just collectively tuck our heads between our legs and say, “Yes this game is AMAZING!”?Also I think I also have a wtf moment when some people come in and say this game performed amazingly. I just have been on the internet, have seen tournament turn out numbers, have seen how khaos reigns performed poorly, have seen youtubers rip this game apart and the fans in those comments rip this game apart to know that this game at best is Mixed. An across the board success though? That it is not and Idk how people can keep parroting that it is. I almost want to understand where that mindset comes from because I’m genuinely baffled.

Boon can tweet whatever he wants because it’s in his best interest to paint the game in as good of a light as possible. I genuinely believe if this game sold 3 million copies for instance he would find a way to spin it positively when it would be anything but. So yeah I just don’t think this game did well either. Performed well compared to other WB IP’s sure, but that bar is in hell.

 

[Trickywizard]

it isn't the criticism... no one gives a shit about that... no one cares what you think about something or why.... it is the fact none of you have made a single point in the last 37 pages that wasn't said in the 1st page. You lot have nothing of interest to say. No incite or innovative ways of looking at things. As you do not even play the game, on top of it all, you do not even understand what you are critiquing. Like I can't complain about some basketball teams offense, I do not know rules of that game

You are just stamping your feet like a 12 year old girl and saying "BUT I DON'T LIKE IT!!!" and doing that for weeks and weeks in every single post, and it has been over a year now!!

You are just repeating the exact same thing again and again and again.. ... ..

.... and it's boring. That is all.. you're just boring us.

This^^^^

 

[Vulgar]

I wanna chime in.

So I think maybe there’s a mix up here possibly. I don’t even want to shit on this game anymore mainly because I don’t care about this game.

My main complaints come because I don’t want anything in this game to carry forward. Like at all. None of it. I checked out from the initial trailers and was like well maybe there’s hope for games after that.

Idk if anyone else feels that way but that’s where I’m coming from. MK1 is the first game I actively just did not like. I hate everything lore wise they did to the characters and I’ll be honest I’m not a huge Bi-han fan. This game seemed like the Bi-han show from the get go and maybe that’s because they didn’t have Hanzo to promote. Idk but just yeah lots of decisions I wasn’t a fan of. Kameos turned me off as well.

So by all means I am not saying anyone can’t enjoy the game. Enjoy the fuck out of it. By all means, but I should be able to voice my opinion (and others should as well) about how we don’t want any of this in the next game.

Should we all just collectively tuck our heads between our legs and say, “Yes this game is AMAZING!”?Also I think I also have a wtf moment when some people come in and say this game performed amazingly. I just have been on the internet, have seen tournament turn out numbers, have seen how khaos reigns performed poorly, have seen youtubers rip this game apart and the fans in those comments rip this game apart to know that this game at best is Mixed. An across the board success though? That it is not and Idk how people can keep parroting that it is. I almost want to understand where that mindset comes from because I’m genuinely baffled.

Boon can tweet whatever he wants because it’s in his best interest to paint the game in as good of a light as possible. I genuinely believe if this game sold 3 million copies for instance he would find a way to spin it positively when it would be anything but. So yeah I just don’t think this game did well either. Performed well compared to other WB IP’s sure, but that bar is in hell.

Bruv, it took SF6 a year to catch up to MK1's sales.

Also you've never even played the game, nothing you say about it's quality can be taken seriously.

You don't like broccoli cause it's green, we get it.

 

[Trickywizard]

Honestly I get that @Vulgar can be a troll sometimes but I find it hard to disagree with anything he says. He’s always on point on pretty much every topic.

 

[Subby Z]

Bruv, it took SF6 a year to catch up to MK1's sales.

Also you've never even played the game, nothing you say about it's quality can be taken seriously.

You don't like broccoli cause it's green, we get it.

That’s just not how things are decided haha.

Like many games lately that are flopping left and right you don’t have to play them to know they’re not for you.

How about you pick up any game you don’t like and go play it. I would never give MK1 a dime tbh. Sorry not sorry.

Also for Street Fighter to be anywhere near MK’s sales is usually unheard of. MK1 also had to slow in sales for Street Fighter to catch up.

 

[Trickywizard]

That’s just not how things are decided haha.

Like many games lately that are flopping left and right you don’t have to play them to know they’re not for you.

How about you pick up any game you don’t like and go play it. I would never give MK1 a dime tbh. Sorry not sorry.

Also for Street Fighter to be anywhere near MK’s sales is usually unheard of. MK1 also had to slow in sales for Street Fighter to catch up.

I would rather spend time playing a game I like than hating on one I dislike.
I didn’t like SF6 I don’t know much about sf6 so I don’t criticize it.

MK1 is next gen exclusive that deff hurts sales.

 

[just_2swift]

No bitches?

Got you don't I bitch?

 

[Subby Z]

I would rather spend time playing a game I like than hating on one I dislike.
I didn’t like SF6 I don’t know much about sf6 so I don’t criticize it.

MK1 is next gen exclusive that deff hurts sales.

Sooo if we all just shut up and then NRS sees just positive feedback what happens next game?

Are they reading this particular board? No. However this is more about discussion around this game in general.

I don’t like this particular MK game and LOTS of other don’t either. So what? We just shutup and let the same shit happen next game.

MK11 may have been a bad game in some of your eyes. Cool. That’s fine. Casuals loved it though. Regardless of what you think they did and tournament entries were still as good as past tournament entries. MKX had fans carry over from MK9, MK11 had fans carry over from MKX, MK1 had an initial burst of sales from MK11. Will MK2 have a burst of sales from MK1? I don’t think so. I’m going to be honest there. I really don’t think it will.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

Will MK2 have a burst of sales from MK1? I don’t think so. I’m going to be honest there. I really don’t think it will.

Lol, tbh we've been hearing this since MKX/the Krypt

 

[Trickywizard]

Sooo if we all just shut up and then NRS sees just positive feedback what happens next game?

Are they reading this particular board? No. However this is more about discussion around this game in general.

I don’t like this particular MK game and LOTS of other don’t either. So what? We just shutup and let the same shit happen next game.

MK11 may have been a bad game in some of your eyes. Cool. That’s fine. Casuals loved it though. Regardless of what you think they did and tournament entries were still as good as past tournament entries. MKX had fans carry over from MK9, MK11 had fans carry over from MKX, MK1 had an initial burst of sales from MK11. Will MK2 have a burst of sales from MK1? I don’t think so. I’m going to be honest there. I really don’t think it will.

Do we have to spell this out for ya?
Not liking a game isn’t real criticism.
pointing out what you dislike about it and wish to be improved is.
Look English is my second language, I wish I was more fluent so I was able to explain this as simple as possible…. As you were to a little kid.

 

[Subby Z]

Lol, tbh we've been hearing this since MKX/the Krypt

Hey we’ll wait and see.

Sometimes people think things are too big to fail.

Marvel’s learning that lesson currently actually.

 

[Trickywizard]

Hey we’ll wait and see.

Sometimes people think things are too big to fail.

Marvel’s learning that lesson currently actually.

Worrying about video games sales is a bit too extreme tbh. Let NRs/WB worry about that.
find a game you like and enjoy it.

 

[Subby Z]

Worrying about video games sales is a bit too extreme tbh. Let NRs/WB worry about that.
find a game you like and enjoy it.

I’m not worried about this game. I’m worried about MK as a franchise haha. I told you I don’t care about this game. Plus I want the next MK game to do well.