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Has NRS silenced the Mortal Kombat 1 critics?

Has NRS silenced the Mortal Kombat 1 critics?

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Eldriken

Eldriken

Life was wasted on you.
Trickywizard said:
MK9 & MK1 are my favorite modern mk games.
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MK9 holds a special place in my heart because it was the first game I really started to play in a non-casual way. It's what got me into enjoying fighting games more than I already did.

I had always enjoyed them and been good at them, but I didn't know about frame data or anything like that. I just knew what worked against everyone I knew, which they weren't that great at them to begin with. lol

I didn't learn about frame data until Injustice 1 and happening across this very site. I discovered it was a game of numbers along with all sorts of mental stacks throughout. Coming here helped me improve my game immensely, but I didn't have the same skill ceiling as a lot of others. I naturally reached a plateau of a somewhat respectable level, I'd say. lol I'm not great, but I'm not terrible.

I don't know why I typed all that. Just the mentioning of MK9 took me back and I got all nostalgic. I loved that game and had no idea what impact it was going to have on my enjoyment and overall experience with fighting games. I entered a whole new world and discovered the FGC existed. I had no idea fighting games had their own dedicated scene. I'm glad I got introduced to it and that I still enjoy it to this day.

I'll bitch and complain all day about the game, but that's because I'm a salty asshole and my own worst enemy. I do love MK1 despite the things I dislike about it. I'm just glad to be part of a scene where other likewise individuals share the same interest and passion I do.

tl;dr - fighting games rock.
 
Trickywizard

Trickywizard

Mortal
Eldriken said:
MK9 holds a special place in my heart because it was the first game I really started to play in a non-casual way. It's what got me into enjoying fighting games more than I already did.

I had always enjoyed them and been good at them, but I didn't know about frame data or anything like that. I just knew what worked against everyone I knew, which they weren't that great at them to begin with. lol

I didn't learn about frame data until Injustice 1 and happening across this very site. I discovered it was a game of numbers along with all sorts of mental stacks throughout. Coming here helped me improve my game immensely, but I didn't have the same skill ceiling as a lot of others. I naturally reached a plateau of a somewhat respectable level, I'd say. lol I'm not great, but I'm not terrible.

I don't know why I typed all that. Just the mentioning of MK9 took me back and I got all nostalgic. I loved that game and had no idea what impact it was going to have on my enjoyment and overall experience with fighting games. I entered a whole new world and discovered the FGC existed. I had no idea fighting games had their own dedicated scene. I'm glad I got introduced to it and that I still enjoy it to this day.

I'll bitch and complain all day about the game, but that's because I'm a salty asshole and my own worst enemy. I do love MK1 despite the things I dislike about it. I'm just glad to be part of a scene where other likewise individuals share the same interest and passion I do.

tl;dr - fighting games rock.
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MK9 is my favorite fighting game ever, if they re release it with updated graphics and netcode I would drop everything else.

MK2 was my first fighter but MK9 was the game I learned frame data for.
MK1 Kung Lao plays close to MK9 Lao this is why I like the game lol. Honestly if you liked MK9 you like MK1 they play very similar.

oh and yeah we have the same story, all that you said about MK9 same happened to me. we had weekly offline meet up’s and played mk9 all day.
 
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Juxtapose

Juxtapose

Master
Trickywizard said:
MK9 & MK1 are my favorite modern mk games.
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Of the modern NetherRealm Studios developed games, my order of favourite to least would be:

  • Mortal Kombat 11 Ultimate
  • Mortal Kombat (2011)
  • Mortal Kombat XL
  • Mortal Kombat 1: Khaos Reigns
Mortal Kombat (2011) was the game that got me back into not just the franchise, but fighting games in general. I truly began to learn to play there and would have gone to my offline locals had my health not taken a nose dive. The game helped keep me focus while really ill and the PlayStation Vita version was an excellent diversion/training tool during my long commutes for work.

Mortal Kombat XL also helped provide focus and diversion during my health battle and I had a lot of fun with it online with friends, even before the rollback netcode.

I was not big on Mortal Kombat 11 at first, but with all the free time I had during the pandemic, I started playing Kombat League a lot and really learning the game. It was challenging but also fantastic to watch myself grow and improve as a player and to ultimately exceed how well I thought I'd do. I really game to love and appreciate the game for what it was, rather then for what I originally wanted it to be when I got it at launch.

Mortal Kombat 1 is a game I decided to play casually from the get-go, as I wasn't (and still am not) keen on the Kameo Partner system. I'm also not digging the New Era as I personally preferred the take on the characters from the Alternate Timeline.

Having said all that, I don't any of the modern games are bad games at all, and each has their strengths and weaknesses and each will appeal to different types of players. I have found Mortal Kombat (2011) has not aged well and it's very hard for me to go back to now, though. Of the 4, it's bottom of my list for the one I'd want to play.
 
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Eji1700

Kombatant
just_2swift said:
That's fucking Kung Lao. Idk what the fuck that bullshit is in MK1 they call Lao.

But this? That's my MF Shaolin right there.
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It's really interesting to me watching old MK9 footage. Almost everyone is dripping with flavor. Not all of it fucking works, god knows, but just about every character brings their style of degeneracy to the match, and it looks and feels so so different. Even the tempo of their combos tends to vary (or if they even bother to combo).

MK1 feels like it's sooo close, but like someone put floaties on it. I'm super glad they keep adding more cool shit, but god the pace of just that one match is fucking great.
 
just_2swift

just_2swift

MK1 is the best MK period.
Trickywizard said:
That shit was busted. He had all types of fuck neutral tools. We wouldn’t want that in MK1.
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Right so all the fuck neutral shit that's already in the game is fine then huh like that lame ass full screen ex spin buff Lao got.

But that's not the point. Did you really main Lao in mk9? Its mind games on layers upon layers to mk9 Lao yet you're acting like it's a crime for him to be what he's supposed to be

Cause Lao wasn't even broken in 9 so can that shit.
Also I'm not asking for mk9 Lao to be ported over to MK1. Even though cage is basically mk9 cage without a force ball but I digress.

The White Lotus Society wants his legacy moves restored. Giving him a lame ass kitana fan hat toss was BS. Like seriously WTF is that? Is it pay back for giving kitana his low hat/low fan toss in MK11?
I digress yet again as that's a whole nother topic.

Out of all I mean ALL of Lao being well... KUNG LAO thinking about all the moves he's had they've could've scrounged up better than that.
 
Trickywizard

Trickywizard

Mortal
just_2swift said:
Right so all the fuck neutral shit that's already in the game is fine then huh like that lame ass full screen ex spin buff Lao got.

But that's not the point. Did you really main Lao in mk9? Its mind games on layers upon layers to mk9 Lao yet you're acting like it's a crime for him to be what he's supposed to be

Cause Lao wasn't even broken in 9 so can that shit.
Also I'm not asking for mk9 Lao to be ported over to MK1. Even though cage is basically mk9 cage without a force ball but I digress.

The White Lotus Society wants his legacy moves restored. Giving him a lame ass kitana fan hat toss was BS. Like seriously WTF is that? Is it pay back for giving kitana his low hat/low fan toss in MK11?
I digress yet again as that's a whole nother topic.

Out of all I mean ALL of Lao being well... KUNG LAO thinking about all the moves he's had they've could've scrounged up better than that.
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Lao was bullshit in mk9, he was fun but busted
He wasn’t the best cause there was more busted chars but everyone hated how Lao didn’t have to play the meta.
I did main Lao if mk9 had a playable netcode I could show you lol
 
Vulgar

Vulgar

Kombatant
just_2swift said:
Right so all the fuck neutral shit that's already in the game is fine then huh like that lame ass full screen ex spin buff Lao got.

But that's not the point. Did you really main Lao in mk9? Its mind games on layers upon layers to mk9 Lao yet you're acting like it's a crime for him to be what he's supposed to be

Cause Lao wasn't even broken in 9 so can that shit.
Also I'm not asking for mk9 Lao to be ported over to MK1. Even though cage is basically mk9 cage without a force ball but I digress.

The White Lotus Society wants his legacy moves restored. Giving him a lame ass kitana fan hat toss was BS. Like seriously WTF is that? Is it pay back for giving kitana his low hat/low fan toss in MK11?
I digress yet again as that's a whole nother topic.

Out of all I mean ALL of Lao being well... KUNG LAO thinking about all the moves he's had they've could've scrounged up better than that.
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Go back to the retirement home, old man. It's not 2011 anymore. That was 14 years ago.
 
just_2swift

just_2swift

MK1 is the best MK period.
Trickywizard said:
Lao was bullshit in mk9, he was fun but busted
He wasn’t the best cause there was more busted chars but everyone hated how Lao didn’t have to play the meta.
I did main Lao if mk9 had a playable netcode I could show you lol
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And what exactly was mk9's "meta" that Kung Lao didn't have to play? You do realize you just nuked your entire statement with saying this? It doesn't make sense at all.

How can you say other characters were more busted then mention how he didn't have to play meta?

WHAT META

People "hated" how subzero played as well in mk9's meta.

Funny how both these characters went through so many changes for being hated yet you got Johnny Cage who's basically mk9 cage without force balls.
 
Trickywizard

Trickywizard

Mortal
just_2swift said:
And what exactly was mk9's "meta" that Kung Lao didn't have to play? You do realize you just nuked your entire statement with saying this? It doesn't make sense at all.

How can you say other characters were more busted then mention how he didn't have to play meta?

WHAT META

People "hated" how subzero played as well in mk9's meta.

Funny how both these characters went through so many changes for being hated yet you got Johnny Cage who's basically mk9 cage without force balls.
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I’m not the type to write essays to explain anything. If you were there for MK9 days you know people hated Kung Lao.

JC is not as busted in MK1
In MK9 meterless nut punch was a re stand plus like 40, it would remove your ability to wake up reversal. (That’s huge)
111 was hella pls too. F3 was plus… it was pressure pressure.
He was landing 40%meterless into a restand pressure.
They have similar play styles but deff not the same char.
 
Eddy Wang

Eddy Wang

Skarlet scientist
Dankster Morgan said:
I think there’s one scenario where it’s not inherently racist, but it’s hard to imagine it being said in good faith.

Africa has a lot of unique dialects - obviously, it’s fucking HUGE, and Hollywood often portrays African characters with an accent similar to the one in black panther, regardless of region. So if you’re someone who studies linguistics, or is having their regional dialect misrepresented, I understand.

It’s like Louisiana and Georgia are both in the Southern American English dialect, but they have different regional variations, but oftentimes movies just give every southerner the typical redneck stereotype accent.
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i'm african and we don't speak like that, the wakandan one sounds too extreme tbh
 
just_2swift

just_2swift

MK1 is the best MK period.
Trickywizard said:
I’m not the type to write essays to explain anything. If you were there for MK9 days you know people hated Kung Lao.

JC is not as busted in MK1
In MK9 meterless nut punch was a re stand plus like 40, it would remove your ability to wake up reversal. (That’s huge)
111 was hella pls too. F3 was plus… it was pressure pressure.
He was landing 40%meterless into a restand pressure.
They have similar play styles but deff not the same char.
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I don't care what type of person/Pokemon type etc, you are. There's no need to disclose that you respond the way you respond. Just respond. Pretty sure nobody cares either way.

I never said Cage was broken. I'm just implying that his core essence is still intact while Lao's is on his kameo.
 
Vulgar

Vulgar

Kombatant
just_2swift said:
And what exactly was mk9's "meta" that Kung Lao didn't have to play? You do realize you just nuked your entire statement with saying this? It doesn't make sense at all.

How can you say other characters were more busted then mention how he didn't have to play meta?

WHAT META

People "hated" how subzero played as well in mk9's meta.

Funny how both these characters went through so many changes for being hated yet you got Johnny Cage who's basically mk9 cage without force balls.
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How can you glaze MK9 and not know how its metagame worked?
 
Vulgar

Vulgar

Kombatant
Trickywizard said:
I’m not the type to write essays to explain anything. If you were there for MK9 days you know people hated Kung Lao.

JC is not as busted in MK1
In MK9 meterless nut punch was a re stand plus like 40, it would remove your ability to wake up reversal. (That’s huge)
111 was hella pls too. F3 was plus… it was pressure pressure.
He was landing 40%meterless into a restand pressure.
They have similar play styles but deff not the same char.
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Yeah. After nutpunch they could cross up and do 111 and once you respected that option they could go right into f33 energy ball which was Hella plus and it was just a lot.

Man, that game was bullshit. Lol
 
Trickywizard

Trickywizard

Mortal
just_2swift said:
I don't care what type of person/Pokemon type etc, you are. There's no need to disclose that you respond the way you respond. Just respond. Pretty sure nobody cares either way.

I never said Cage was broken. I'm just implying that his core essence is still intact while Lao's is on his kameo.
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Kung Lao plays very similar just not as broken.

I still do 21 staggers just like in MK9.
I still shimmie? Just like MK9.
I still dive kick to close the gap & whiff punish.
I still get free pressure off his combo ended just like MK9.
I still can AA consistently just not with spin.
(S1, d1, upblock etc)
D3 & D4 are still great buttons etc.

Play it right and you will find multiple similarities.
 
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