Yeah I think he’s fine too it’s just the invisibility that it could be better. Compared to Smoke who doesn’t even need it to mix you up yet he can be fully invisible instantly.So some of the things I've learned. Haven't done a read through the thread, so not sure what you guys have found.
-d4 acid hand from MK9 is...kinda back? Cancelling to close and medium forceball is a trap, especially when spaced.
-Both lvl2 b2 and f32 are safe jump setups. b2 needs manual timing (tap direction then jump). f32 is auto-timed. b2 route is necessary for some wakeups in the corner (Reiko for example).
-Ketchup and Mustard talked about Reptile in their tier list, and mentioned that Sub helps with invisibility setups pretty well and might be the way going forward. Been experimenting and yeah, I'm inclined to agree. I won't be surprised if kameos that help set up invisibility are going to work the best for him.
Idk, the more I play Reptile, the more I think he's...largely fine? He's seeming to be a mid-range pressure character with invisibility mind games. Probably has a decently high ceiling.
I've been trying Sub as well, seems great in some matches but I prefer Cyrax in others. I think they're two of the strongest Kameos.So some of the things I've learned. Haven't done a read through the thread, so not sure what you guys have found.
-d4 acid hand from MK9 is...kinda back? Cancelling to close and medium forceball is a trap, especially when spaced.
-Both lvl2 b2 and f32 are safe jump setups. b2 needs manual timing (tap direction then jump). f32 is auto-timed. b2 route is necessary for some wakeups in the corner (Reiko for example).
-Ketchup and Mustard talked about Reptile in their tier list, and mentioned that Sub helps with invisibility setups pretty well and might be the way going forward. Been experimenting and yeah, I'm inclined to agree. I won't be surprised if kameos that help set up invisibility are going to work the best for him.
Idk, the more I play Reptile, the more I think he's...largely fine? He's seeming to be a mid-range pressure character with invisibility mind games. Probably has a decently high ceiling.
I think Reptile's invisibility is intended to be a massive piece of his kit in comparison to Smoke, which is why it functions like that. He gets it meterless with the right kameos. Also, the setup can loop back into itself easily.Yeah I think he’s fine too it’s just the invisibility that it could be better. Compared to Smoke who doesn’t even need it to mix you up yet he can be fully invisible instantly.
Haven't tried Cyrax, but are there any good routes to get a net to set up invisibility? Also, Sub's armor feels really invaluable to Reptile's neutral. In the long run, I think Sub's utility will win out for Reptile.I've been trying Sub as well, seems great in some matches but I prefer Cyrax in others. I think they're two of the strongest Kameos.
I tend to like Sub Zero more for the ice armor too helps with the zoning wars or people just throwing projectiles that just beat the crap out of mine. And the invis is just feels easier to get into for me.I think Reptile's invisibility is intended to be a massive piece of his kit in comparison to Smoke, which is why it functions like that. He gets it meterless with the right kameos. Also, the setup can loop back into itself easily.
Haven't tried Cyrax, but are there any good routes to get a net to set up invisibility? Also, Sub's armor feels really invaluable to Reptile's neutral. In the long run, I think Sub's utility will win out for Reptile.
It actually didThis didn't age well
Reptile is a very good character, has everything you need and the combo potential in this game is insanely open. The shit you can do with Kameos is beyond insane.It actually did
only reason i see is if you need something faster than 12 frames. Like its easier for me to do 23 when i land fully charged B2 cause it feels like i whiff f23 (not sure if its possible probably is and im just bad).Is there a reason to use f23 over 23 in combos? They’re virtually the same string.
F2 does slightly more damageIs there a reason to use f23 over 23 in combos? They’re virtually the same string.
That timing is weird but I tend to call scorpion into invis cancel, right before he pulls away from the belt. It’s a tight timing but after a while, you can get it down. May take more than hour tbh.So, after trying again some matches with Reptile, it seems my top problem with him is his strings. For some reason, he seems stiff as FUCK. Am I the only one feeling this? I mean, I had no problems like this while trying out Scorpion, Mileena, Smoke, Baraka, Sindel and Johnny. Somehow my fingers don't "flow" through the inputs - maybe it's something to do with more active frames/his strings being mostly -7 on block instead of 0?
Also, I spent a good hour in practice mode trying to nail down the Reptile + Scorpion kameo invisibility setup timing (starter combo xx f3, 2 (up kameo) xx invisibility xx forceball) and ALWAYS whiff the forceball. What is the timing? I was trying to activate the Scorpion fireballs right when Reptile sticks his hand on the enemy, to no avail. Sometimes Scorpion would appear wayy offscreen, sometimes only the first fireball would hit and sometimes both fireballs would hit, but still wouldnt give me enough time to land another forceball. Any one struggled with this and has any advice?
i just tried doing this and yall are on to something. But there ain't no way im gonna be able to do this online.That timing is weird but I tend to call scorpion into invis cancel, right before he pulls away from the belt. It’s a tight timing but after a while, you can get it down. May take more than hour tbh.
you can also watch the slime. When it gets to his groin area, you can usually get the forceball out.
Lol give it up. You’re just looking silly trying to save face.. reptile is obviously one of the weaker characters in the game. No one is saying you can’t win with him but he’s definitely lower mid to bottom tier.Reptile is a very good character, has everything you need and the combo potential in this game is insanely open. The shit you can do with Kameos is beyond insane.
For example, you can use Kameos to setup his invisibility, juggle to a ridiculous number of hits, Stryker grenades makes everything safe and allows him to juggle off his S3 with obnoxious range. His B31 is probably the best or second best wiff punishing move that can be used while back wave dashing.
I really don't understand why you feel reptile is veriety starved in the setup/combo department?
BTW I wasn't trying to be rude. I completely understand why someone would say this pre launch. NRS has had a bad track record especially after MKX variation nerfs and all of 11.
In my opinion MK1 is the funest MK since 9 only problem is the bugs and quality of life issues like inability to pin moves in practice, go in lab while waiting in koth/Kombat league, no WIFI filter or at least the ability to see if they use busted WIFI that's toasting bread.
Dude bottom tier is B that's not a tier I consider unviable and every top players tier list says that much, they all say Rep is good and has everything you need, he just doesn't have the amazing dirt the S Tiers have at a base character level, there are crazy dirt with Kameos that s universal. He has the best invisibility with legit 50/50 and stagger throw mix and probably the best walk back wiff punisher (B31)Lol give it up. You’re just looking silly trying to save face.. reptile is obviously one of the weaker characters in the game. No one is saying you can’t win with him but he’s definitely lower mid to bottom tier.
I know with Baraka you can armor through clone on reaction with his stab lunge. Can't reptile Armor through with slide roll?Here we go, again. The Sub-Zero MU with his Ice Clone BS
The issue I keep having with Reptile is that the things you said are true but with big caveats. Like he has overheads, but they're slow and unsafe. His b31 is cool, but there's a big gap that people learn to blow up pretty quick. His invisibility would be cool and set up 50/50s, but it's so much work to get the invisibility going. The best luck I've found is rolling with Darrius and getting people into the unblockable scenario with his dual overheads and hitting with a low starter as the second one connects, but that takes the whole kameo meter, and it's less effective when people realize what's happening.Dude bottom tier is B that's not a tier I consider unviable and every top players tier list says that much, they all say Rep is good and has everything you need, he just doesn't have the amazing dirt the S Tiers have at a base character level, there are crazy dirt with Kameos that s universal. He has the best invisibility with legit 50/50 and stagger throw mix and probably the best walk back wiff punisher (B31)
What do you mean the best invisibility? You mean the one that compared to Smoke's takes ages to startup and the meter one doesn't do anything differently? And what do you mean by legit 50/50? There's still sound which means for such a long overhead startup that should be good enough and also, screen snaps back a little bit when he goes for the overhead. I bet players in competitive scene will react to his mix up even while invisible.He has the best invisibility with legit 50/50 and stagger throw mix and probably the best walk back wiff punisher (B31)