Miasmata123
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Yesterday on stream I watched titaniumtigers get hit by two f21s. He must be an idiot scrub.
When did i ever ask for jade to have 30% meterless combos or a safe special? Stop putting words in my mouth... Go look through every single one of my posts and find me when i said this. Jade only needs one thing..... Have B3434 launch only for a shadow kick and she will be fine.
If you're confident they're not going to wake up attack (no meter for example) dash in grab is definitely valid in my opinion. But it's pretty obvious, so dash in b343/f3 might be better a few times first to condition them to block on wake up, then mix it up with grab from there. It's a safer option than going for a grab immediately and getting called out on it.
That's a very interesting idea.
That could be a good way for Jade to get a punish, the weakest thing about her right now is her punish game. For some characters doing yolo unsafe moves against Jade isn't a big deal because they know Jade won't hit them for much at all. But at least being able to end this string in a shadow kick would give her a decent punish, not the greatest but I think it would be fair.
I've been in and out of this sight for a while now keeping up with Jade. I mained her in MK9 and maining her now. Literally every concern you brought up with her in every thread. I'm in agreement with you. I don’t want to address this from specific moves and frame data. To sum her up, I look at spacing, viable options, and damage, and what those three things are dependent on at any given point of the round. Her spacing when used right and when the opponent respect it, is really strong.in that regard she’s pretty strong even though it’s very likely the opponent will find a way in at some point. When it comes to her viable options when it comes to punishing,extending combos, and cashing out on damage, those are dependent on design choices and stage positioning. Therefore, she can have some success at keep away but she may find herself in a position that she could finish off the opponent but can’t simply because her best option does little damage whearas any other character in that situation would be much better off. In that regard, damage does matter. It doesn’t need to be high sick damage. To depend on the right position and opponent to make a bad decision or bad read just don’t make her an overall solid character for me. She’s situational. Yes pros did well with her but they still got dominated even though they’ve shown excellent spacing but as I pointed out, that’s just part of it and is her strongest tool and to gets violated at some point.thats not a knock on the jade players.she feels like she did in mk9. It took a lot of work and when you made all the right decisions at the right time and won, she looked pretty good. But when she ate all that close up pressure and had nothing to show for when she managed to land a hit, her weaknesses really stood out. I like many others just feel that she could use 1-2 more tweaks that would make her make more sense. Nothing major because we don’t want her to be broken. To have people come in and say she’s fine especially when they don’t main jade is odd.
I was obviously referencing Glortor, you just got tagged in the same post.
Glow already has instant start up... You probably mean casting with defensive bar to reduce recovery frames... Tbh i think that would be a little cheap, its just as cheap as all the far teleports that some characters in this game have like cetrion and skarlet. Whats the point of walking these characters to the corner and then having them teleporting and having to do the same. Some characters have no option against that.
Ad hominems and hearsay are all they have. I trust NRS and hope that trust won't be misplaced.
There's nothing I'd like more than constructive discussion but we have people come in here who shortly betray their own incompetence with claims that suggest they don't even understand fundamentals, or are simply hostile, or both. Or they saw a high level player do well with this character and wanted to let us know that we're wrong because they saw Waz or whoever else do well with her.
Glortor has been a jade main forever, he has represented the character and fought for her since the MK9 days. Though I may not agree with him for everything he says, I have a lot of respect for him for doing so.
1. I wasn't attacking anyone, I was correcting -you- about being factually incorrect on numbers and mechanics. Politely at first, then as you started to throw shade at me, I started to pay less and less attention to you.
Theres really nothing to assassinate. Anyone who spends any significant time on these forums knows what you are.
Your superior in every single way.
You have until 5PM, EST.
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If you don't accept the challenge that's fine with me too, dude.
Sorry to further derail from the Jade strategy talk, but as a Scorpion player, I fully agree with this adjustment as well for the exact reasons described. Excellent post.
