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I think for the range they gave her, the damage and lack of mid screen combo potential is fine rn. Played a scorpion who had a pretty decent combo punish, maybe a reset, i dont know. 4th match online, his 50 something. Still getting used to everything but managed to keep him out of close range decently. Got bodied when he got inside though.

Up glaive
Low projectile
Combo ext.

I like the low projectile, bait them into crouch block, hit a couple of her overheads, then switch it up to her low normal.
 
She seems to be missing … something. Maybe it's just that I don't get her playstyle yet, but I played a few games as Scorpion and then a few as her and it really felt like I was going from a complete character to an incomplete one.

Maybe she needs to be able to combo into more stuff from her mid screen punishes or amp up her projectile or … something. I'm can't really put my finger on what exactly is missing. I think it's that she has a bunch of decent tools, but they don't really compliment each other as much as they could and are just some stuff she can do as opposed to stuff that she can put together. I'm not sure, but she needs something.
 

Wrenchfarm

Lexcorp Proprietary Technologies
been running with amplified nitro kick, staff moves, and the low projectile all night. Low projectile is nice for adding a 50/50 element to your F2 (unsafe if close) and I really like the long range sweep for checking opponents and frustrating wake ups.

That said, boy does she feel like she lacks damage. I get that she's a space control character who is supposed to peck away at the opponent, but she really needs something mid-screen.

I've been punishing moves like Scorpion's TP with just 12xbf2. It's such nothing damage I don't feel they are scared to make a mistake. Scorpion doesn't have huge damage either, but it's still better than Jade's and he doesn't have to work hard to catch up after a bad TP or two.

Anyone have a better punish I could use or tips on juicing out more damage?
 
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stokedAF

casual kahnage
Both of the new characters were harder for me to pick up and play. Baraka just felt right for some reason I don’t know. I like jade but I suck with kabal. I probably won’t use him or scarlet much in the game.
 

STB Sgt Reed

Online Warrior
And last bit of the rant. Why the hell nobody plays her? In like 4 hours of gaming I fought like 2 other Jades and at the same time dozens of Kabals. Also it seems like noone good player that streams is using her.
Kabal has combos lol.



As for myself, after about 3 hours of playing her I have mixed feelings:

On the one hand, I absolutely love her look in this game!! She's gorgeous with mask, no mask, hood or no hood... it doesn't matter. She kills it. I'm loving her colors and customizations.

Her range is amazing and fun to whiff punish or stuff advancing moves with. Her zoning fun af too when you have all 3 projectile abilities equipped.



However, the weird inputs for strings leaves me never using her best string because I can't for the life of me get it to come out and whiffing the b3 is death. (I've never been able to play kung lao for this same reason)

Her only combos being in the corner is also a bummer because I tend to rarely focus on corner combos in any mk because I've always played sub so I'm just doing setups into clone or I'm playing someone like just where I don't want to corner the enemy.

Those last two paragraphs are huge negatives for me and I'm not sure I can live with those to make her my main. :(
 

STB Sgt Reed

Online Warrior
All that said, what do you guys think the best loadout is?

Currently I've just been using Up glaive, Air glaive (i really love this one), and low projectile.

The only other ones I think I'd consider would be the extra strings and the teleport. I like the regular shadow kick because it's good for when you need to switch sides.
 

MkPeezy

Unicorn Papi
Kabal has combos lol.



As for myself, after about 3 hours of playing her I have mixed feelings:

On the one hand, I absolutely love her look in this game!! She's gorgeous with mask, no mask, hood or no hood... it doesn't matter. She kills it. I'm loving her colors and customizations.

Her range is amazing and fun to whiff punish or stuff advancing moves with. Her zoning fun af too when you have all 3 projectile abilities equipped.



However, the weird inputs for strings leaves me never using her best string because I can't for the life of me get it to come out and whiffing the b3 is death. (I've never been able to play kung lao for this same reason)

Her only combos being in the corner is also a bummer because I tend to rarely focus on corner combos in any mk because I've always played sub so I'm just doing setups into clone or I'm playing someone like just where I don't want to corner the enemy.

Those last two paragraphs are huge negatives for me and I'm not sure I can live with those to make her my main. :(
She has to play twice as hard because she has no combos. When you wiff punish something you get like 12% but the rest of the cast can get up to 40% if they hit you once. Your opponent can make 10 mistakes but if you make 2 RIP.
 

Wrenchfarm

Lexcorp Proprietary Technologies
She has to play twice as hard because she has no combos. When you wiff punish something you get like 12% but the rest of the cast can get up to 40% if they hit you once. Your opponent can make 10 mistakes but if you make 2 RIP.
This is what I was feeling. I really like her, but the damage is so, so low. Even playing very carefully it only takes on slip to lose your lead.
 

Gamer68

Fujin!
So I haven't read through the thread (there's too many comments), but how are Jade's Run Cancels? I looked at the move earlier and it seemed to have a lot of recovery frames? I was wondering if there are actually any useful uses, because when I was using it seemed like you could get jabbed out.
 

MkPeezy

Unicorn Papi
So I haven't read through the thread (there's too many comments), but how are Jade's Run Cancels? I looked at the move earlier and it seemed to have a lot of recovery frames? I was wondering if there are actually any useful uses, because when I was using it seemed like you could get jabbed out.
Not that great slow recovery and the loss of bars to me make it blah. It's a gimmick honestly.
 

STB Sgt Reed

Online Warrior
So I haven't read through the thread (there's too many comments), but how are Jade's Run Cancels? I looked at the move earlier and it seemed to have a lot of recovery frames? I was wondering if there are actually any useful uses, because when I was using it seemed like you could get jabbed out.
@StormGoddess was saying they're great.

Unfortunately run cancel shenanigans and those type of characters don't interest me, nor do I care for the execution requirements. So I'll never know. Won't help me in the slightest.

I do, however, for any potential Jade mains, hope they are great.
 

AloneUA

getting over there
She has to play twice as hard because she has no combos. When you wiff punish something you get like 12% but the rest of the cast can get up to 40% if they hit you once. Your opponent can make 10 mistakes but if you make 2 RIP.
Yeah, this. Played against a decent Baraka and the only viable strategy was to zone him to death. Not that fun, really. Trying to play footsies or put some pressure on your opponent is just doesn’t worth it as your reward is really low and risk is ridiculously high.
Pretty much the same goes playing against other characters, maybe it’s just slightly less punishing going against some Scorpion.
 
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StormGoddess

Your mind tricks won't harm me!!!
@StormGoddess was saying they're great.

Unfortunately run cancel shenanigans and those type of characters don't interest me, nor do I care for the execution requirements. So I'll never know. Won't help me in the slightest.

I do, however, for any potential Jade mains, hope they are great.
pro player SCAR is using Jade on stream and using her run cancels -
at times it seems great then other times gimmicky
its a new beta so the verdicts still out...

https://www.twitch.tv/scar713
he's on now btw
 

DarksydeDash

You know me as RisingShieldBro online.
What have y'all been using as your punish to things like blocked scorpion tele's and such?

I've just been throwing... my god the amount of throws I've done. lol
I know what you mean I've had people jumping forward thinking I'm throwing a projectile but then I just walk forward and throw them as they land lol
 

DarksydeDash

You know me as RisingShieldBro online.
Was watching Tom's Stream and he got Shadow Kick to KB.

I have no idea how and neither does he.
 

Mind Flex

Mind Gamer. BOOSH
I was very underwhelmed at first when I got my hands on her, but then I settled for a zoning build. And now I'm sold. I was surprised when I was able to take some games off of GGA Jeremiah with it. Her zoning feels very real to me.
Air Glaive
Ground Projectile
Extra Normals