The Workout and Nutrition Thread!

[Sothpaw]

I definitely think we should be staying away from processed foods which is the majority of the American diet although people are becoming more aware of how bad it is. Vaccines are a whole other issue. If you want to go down that rabbit hole, research some information on the negative side effects of vaccines including autism.

There is no link between vaccines and autism. That notion has been thoroughly debunked. There is no rabbit hole to go down.

 

[sub_on_dubs]

There is no link between vaccines and autism. That notion has been thoroughly debunked. There is no rabbit hole to go down.

Agree to disagree. Like I said, if you're really interested, look at countering views to yours on this issue. I've read those "debunked" articles as well. They don't convince me. Anyways though, this is probably not the place to debate this and we're getting off topic. Peace, have a good day.

 

[Sothpaw]

Agree to disagree. Like I said, if you're really interested, look at countering views to yours on this issue. I've read those "debunked" articles as well. They don't convince me. Anyways though, this is probably not the place to debate this and we're getting off topic. Peace, have a good day.

Christ first we have someone claiming that humans need zero carbs and now we have an anti-vaxxer.

Anyone else have some crazy ideas they want to air out? Any young earth creationists in here? How about intelligent design proponents?

I would just agree to disagree, but anti-vaxxers are creating a global health crisis.

 

[honeybooboo]

Christ first we have someone claiming that humans need zero carbs and now we have an anti-vaxxer.

Anyone else have some crazy ideas they want to air out? Any young earth creationists in here? How about intelligent design proponents?

I would just agree to disagree, but anti-vaxxers are creating a global health crisis.

The queen of England functions like a queen ant and gives birth to all the workers and soldiers of England

 

[M2Dave]

This thread blew up like a tier list. LOL.

@Sothpaw , thank you for sharing your perspective. I have no criticism of your post per se, but I would like to make a comment on men who only lift weights. I have found that lots of weight lifters are not athletic whatsoever. Yes, they may have a lean body, but the muscles are just a mirage. They have no endurance and cannot play any sport that requires running like basketball or soccer.

Take a look at this guy, who may be an extreme example.

So @ 2:17 he walks on the treadmill for like 10-15 minutes and is completely out of breath. If I had watched the video with my eyes closes, I would have thought the video is about a smoker trying to run half a mile. Why would any man aspire to have such a lifestyle?

 

[TackyHaddock]

This thread blew up like a tier list. LOL.

@Sothpaw , thank you for sharing your perspective. I have no criticism of your post per se, but I would like to make a comment on men who only lift weights. I have found that lots of weight lifters are not athletic whatsoever. Yes, they may have a lean body, but the muscles are just a mirage. They have no endurance and cannot play any sport that requires running like basketball or soccer.

Take a look at this guy, who may be an extreme example.

So @ 2:17 he walks on the treadmill for like 10-15 minutes and is completely out of breath. If I had watched the video with my eyes closes, I would have thought the video is about a smoker trying to run half a mile. Why would any man aspire to have such a lifestyle?

His arm is a glorified version of my theigh

 

[MKF30]

I could actually help with this one! lol
It's great that you could do a good amount of pull ups too because it's similar to what I'm going to suggest.

Building a Nice 6 Pack:

While I am in good shape and have a nice core, it wasn't easy for me because my back flexibility sucks.

Hanging leg raises are the way to go. You could really play around with the range of motion you do to really hit the obliques too. Aside from that you could do side-bridges and bent-leg raises. I basically have exclusively done these exercises over the years to get the core I have today.

Something to note though, is that there is a huge misconception on building a proper 6 pack. People think all they need to do is lose weight and do a bunch of ab workouts to get the shred that they dream of, but it doesn't work that way. If you have prior muscle mass on your abdominals, sure, cutting the fat will expose your hard work, but if you don't have a bunch of muscle mass on your core already, it's not going to magically appear if you cut the weight on top.

Just like every other muscle group, you have to gain the muscle on your abs first before cutting to get the nice aesthetic look people want. This means that you have to be on a caloric-influx while eating a lot of protein and doing a ton of high intensity ab workouts to get the muscle mass added where you want it. After you feel like you've built your desired amount of ab muscle, THEN you could cut the fat on top and see the great results you've built up.

If you feel like you already have an okay amount of ab muscle under your belly fat, then get to cutting that fat and hit that cardio! If you don't though, and you believe you'd have flat stomach or a starving-man's 6pack under your fat, I'd suggest building up that muscle first. It doesn't even have to be too serious. Just eat enough to supplement your muscles while still working your core. You don't have to eat super ridiculously healthy as long as you are fueling the gains and keeping the workouts coming. You can't gain proper muscle mass while at a caloric-deficit so eating a little and doing tons of cardio will never make you gain the muscle you want.

It's not as easy as people think to get and maintain a proper 6pack. If it were easy, everyone that worked out even a bit would be rocking a 6 pack. But if it is your goal, like it was for me a few years ago, you'll definitely get there eventually if you just stay consistent on your goals and know exactly what you're doing as far as building muscle and cutting fat.

Hope this helped!

Oh yeah I know about the not eating enough, I forgot to mention I don't eat the few meals to try to get leaner or expose muscles where I have them but just do to my job lol. Not that I eat huge amounts anyway, I'm more of a nipper. I eat smaller portions(I've always been like that) for example if I go to subway with friends, they may get 2 footlongs, me I would get one footlong, eat one six inch for one meal then the rest later or the next day lol. I just can't eat a large amount or I feel sick, bloated. But do you know is tuna good for gaining any kind of muscle? There's protein right? I'm not so much a meat eater, I mean once in a blue I'll have chicken nuggets or chicken( I am not a huge fan of meats, here and there I'll have something and I pretty much never eat red meat) Closest is a burger literally once in a blue as in once every few years if I'm in the mood typically cheeseburger or on occasion a pepperoni pizza lol, something but I don't eat them often. I'm more of a starch guy, bread, potatoes, some veggies, fruits and pasta. I admit though I LOVE pizza, lol I try to get more sauce now days and less cheese if I can help it and love subway's tuna sandwiches. My doc told me my cholesterol is maintained when I eat tuna sandwiches with veggies. Tha

I noticed at GMC they have all these protein shakes, supplements etc but if I can I prefer natural foods. I also read that doing platts I think they're called works and tightens your abs, core too. Yeah, I hear ya thanks though. My biggest problem is finding the time to work out, days of work I never do and days I'm off I tend to run errands and sleep in lol. I know it's a bad habit, though I admit I am way more active in the spring and summer vs. the winter for some reason.

 

[Gerchap]

This thread blew up like a tier list. LOL.

@Sothpaw , thank you for sharing your perspective. I have no criticism of your post per se, but I would like to make a comment on men who only lift weights. I have found that lots of weight lifters are not athletic whatsoever. Yes, they may have a lean body, but the muscles are just a mirage. They have no endurance and cannot play any sport that requires running like basketball or soccer.

Take a look at this guy, who may be an extreme example.

So @ 2:17 he walks on the treadmill for like 10-15 minutes and is completely out of breath. If I had watched the video with my eyes closes, I would have thought the video is about a smoker trying to run half a mile. Why would any man aspire to have such a lifestyle?

Crazy life style, calories at their best

 

[SaSSolino]

This thread blew up like a tier list. LOL.

@Sothpaw , thank you for sharing your perspective. I have no criticism of your post per se, but I would like to make a comment on men who only lift weights. I have found that lots of weight lifters are not athletic whatsoever. Yes, they may have a lean body, but the muscles are just a mirage. They have no endurance and cannot play any sport that requires running like basketball or soccer.

Take a look at this guy, who may be an extreme example.

So @ 2:17 he walks on the treadmill for like 10-15 minutes and is completely out of breath. If I had watched the video with my eyes closes, I would have thought the video is about a smoker trying to run half a mile. Why would any man aspire to have such a lifestyle?

Isn't that why people work out though? To get abs to pick up chicks?

 

[Gerchap]

Isn't that why people work out though? To get abs to pick up chicks?

THIS /\

 

[WhamBamThanxSam]

Agree to disagree. Like I said, if you're really interested, look at countering views to yours on this issue. I've read those "debunked" articles as well. They don't convince me. Anyways though, this is probably not the place to debate this and we're getting off topic. Peace, have a good day.

Its not a debate because its false. The only proof you need is the uptick in diseases that were basically eradicated have now made a comeback. Parents who don't vaccinate their kids because of choice should be arrested.

 

[DixieFlatline78]

I used to lift somewhat seriously a year or so ago but then I got a second job and had to change my habits. I gained twenty in that time and tried a strict CICO intermittent fasting diet but I didnt lose a whole lot. Now I'm just doing a bro split at Planet cuz it's what I can afford. I also do pro wrestling training once a week for cardio and to improve my skills in ring. I should really be working on my cardio a lot more but I hate it so much

 

[Guindaste78]

If you are looking for some advice in training and nutrition, ask for a professional.
What works for me, would not work for you and vice versa.

 

[M2Dave]

Isn't that why people work out though? To get abs to pick up chicks?

I think chicks care more about the size of your wallet than your abs, or lack thereof. LOL.

Besides, I am not eating 8,000 calories a day, or however many calories Evan was stuffing in his face in that video, only to have big arms and abs. How is such a diet even natural for human beings? I personally work out to feel good physically and mentally. All the other advantages (i.e., appearance, confidence, energy level, etc.) are just a bonus.

 

[Gerchap]

I think chicks care more about the size of your wallet than your abs, or lack thereof. LOL.

Besides, I am not eating 8,000 calories a day, or however many calories Evan was stuffing in his face in that video, only to have big arms and abs. How is such a diet even natural for human beings? I personally work out to feel good physically and mentally. All the other advantages (i.e., appearance, confidence, energy level, etc.) are just a bonus.

Bro that ain’t natural. To be that big yo have had some type of help “roid cycles” the only difference that these people know how to do It and I would recommend you to increase a bit on your carbs “good carbs” if you want gains. A lot of people think that more and more protein would make them big but it’s not true. You would get toned but not big

 

[Icefyre]

I have found that lots of weight lifters are not athletic whatsoever. Yes, they may have a lean body, but the muscles are just a mirage. They have no endurance and cannot play any sport that requires running like basketball or soccer.

This is one of the reasons I prefer calisthenics as opposed to lifting weights. Lifting weights isolates the muscles used and is an anaerobic workout, whereas calisthenics uses multiple muscles per exercise (for most, anyway) and is inherently aerobic. I don't need to worry about doing cardio as much, it's part of my workout.

 

[Gerchap]

This is one of the reasons I prefer calisthenics as opposed to lifting weights. Lifting weights isolates the muscles used and is an anaerobic workout, whereas calisthenics uses multiple muscles per exercise (for most, anyway) and is inherently aerobic. I don't need to worry about doing cardio as much, it's part of my workout.

It depends on the individual goals calisthenics is more to either keep the size and mantain it or to cut down body fat, for example my goal has always been to bulk gain gain and then cut down. Doing calisthenics is great for endurance and your heart should appreciate it because the heart rate spikes during those exercises. I think the most important thing is discipline and it doesn’t matter what kind of workout you do

 

[HellblazerHawkman]

Curveball, so I have a VR headset. And I've discovered a few games that actually serve as a really good cardio session and usually do like an hour-hour and a half a day while doing some minor lifting. Anyone curious, Beatsaber and Knockout League are my go-tos, but Superhot is also a good option. Kind of limited on PS4, but if you have an Oculus/Vive, it's worth looking into.

I tend to stick with something more if I am more "engaged" with it. Like, I can't do 20 minutes on a treadmill staring at nothing, but this can get you moving at a high pace while working towards a goal (score chasing, trophies, whatever)

 

[AREZ God of War]

I can only speak from my personal experience, there’s is no way I couldn’t perform without carbs even low carb diet makes me super weak

If you’re an active person you need carbs as a type of fuel, yes you can get energy from proteins and good fats, avocado, nuts etc but not for someone who goes hardcore to the gym, it’s just my opinion.

Did you lose interest in this thread as quick as I did? Lol Baseball is not America's favorite pastime....







.....arguing is.

 

[Juggs]

Idk but I’ll beat any of you in arm wrestling.

 

[wsj515]

Curveball, so I have a VR headset. And I've discovered a few games that actually serve as a really good cardio session and usually do like an hour-hour and a half a day while doing some minor lifting. Anyone curious, Beatsaber and Knockout League are my go-tos, but Superhot is also a good option. Kind of limited on PS4, but if you have an Oculus/Vive, it's worth looking into.

I tend to stick with something more if I am more "engaged" with it. Like, I can't do 20 minutes on a treadmill staring at nothing, but this can get you moving at a high pace while working towards a goal (score chasing, trophies, whatever)

This is why I like jumping rope for cardio so much, I have fun doing it and there is a very real skill curve that, along with your fitness, allows you to do different things with the rope.

 

[Steven Farmer]

If you are looking for some advice in training and nutrition, ask for a professional.
What works for me, would not work for you and vice versa.

I'm a professional. Been doing personal training 9 years this April. To keep it simple. Gram of protein per pound of lean body weight. Carbs low works best for most. Do compound movements in the gym. Cardio is good to accelerate the fat loss, but it's all diet in the end.

 

[Guindaste78]

I'm a professional. Been doing personal training 9 years this April. To keep it simple. Gram of protein per pound of lean body weight. Carbs low works best for most. Do compound movements in the gym. Cardio is good to accelerate the fat loss, but it's all diet in the end.

Nice, man! Very good advice. I am professional too. MS Dietician and Physiologist since 2005. There are some general rules that could be applied for most of people, of course. But keep in mind there are genetics, physics and metabolic variables that could interfere in a training/diet program.

 

[Vslayer]

I think chicks care more about the size of your wallet than your abs, or lack thereof. LOL.

Depends on the chick, I don't care about money, here's my checklist:

1. Doesn't smoke
2. Games (like real games, not candy crush)
3. Has a fair bit of muscle (because I got a lotta and I don't want to be the one with the big biceps in the relationship)
4. Has a sense of humor
5. Doesn't drive a BMW (there's a special place in hell for those people)

See, chicks can be simple too

And, Great idea for a thread. Can we post recipes? Ima do it anyway.

 

[Gerchap]

Idk but I’ll beat any of you in arm wrestling.

Bring it on baby. Haven’t tried one of those in so many years, in LA there are competitions two categories up to 185 pounds and 185+ But haven’t thought about it. I should tho just because