Steam database achievements - Roster speculation

[Briggsfan]

and that's how you know it's real lmao

Pretty much. The fake ones are usually too good to be true.

 

[Lord Greyjoy]

I mean basing it solely on their usual direction with mkdc, mk9, i1, i2, and mkx. Having 25 trophies based on just fatalities is absolutely ridiculous.

But then again they did do a trophy per character per kombo trial in mkdc, and that was 22 trophies plus 1 for completing all 22... Mkdc was also a bare bones game too though.

Injustice 2 has achievements for finishing a match a certain way for every character, I think, so a fatality trophy for each character is not so strange. But it's still odd that nobody stopped this from leaking after 'ERR' yesterday and that QLOC has a history of messing with people. Still, I'm convinced this is legit stuff. It's a bit too specific with MK character names and I doubt they'd play with people like that.

I advise you to go to MKO. I think it would be more suited for you.

lol. what happened to MKO? It was chill when I was a regular around MK9 time.

 

[Metin]

Only two ninjas looks absurd, even mk1 has 3 ninjas.. Is this a revolution?

 

[Doctor Future]

Ok calling it now, there will be 2 secret characters. And those will be: Shang Tsung and Noob Saibot.

DLC characters will be: Rain, Sindel, Nightwolf, Havik, Mileena and Li Mei.

 

[NSR]

Intros renamed? Can you elaborate? I kinda find it hard to believe THIS is how the roster would get leaked, and if they've suspiciously done similar stuff in the past before then I'm gonna stay positive.

Braindead elaborated on it earlier:
"In Inj2 before the last DLC pack was revealed the put some trolling character files and called them Shaggy, Talon, and a couple more that I forgot. After examination it turned out they just copied files from Bane and Robin and some more and gave them those trolly names."

This is different as they didn't do this kind of achievement leak ever before. I think Tweedy might be onto something regarding some of the stranger names like CET and KOL. Who knows if they are actually new chars and not returning ones?

Also as an aside to everyone else: I'll repeat since I keep seeing people not get it and post here and whine about the roster: atm NOT ALL 25/26 CHARACTERS HAVE BEEN LEAKED THRU THE ACHIEVEMENTS, THEY ARE INCOMPLETE. A significant amount has been leaked but not all.

 

[xXRagingFlameXx]

Ok calling it now, there will be 2 secret characters. And those will be: Shang Tsung and Noob Saibot.

DLC characters will be: Rain, Sindel, Nightwolf, Havik, Mileena and Li Mei.

What about guests? I'd love to see Mileena make a return as DLC though.

 

[Doctor Future]

What about guests? I'd love to see Mileena make a return as DLC though.

1-2 guests. So split those 6 up through 2 Kombat Packs.

 

[Prince Alucard]

How much I like the roster depends on what the hell CET, TER, and KOL are. Since I think a whopping 3 new characters in total on top of the two time benders is "a lot" considering where the story mode seems to be heading. I don't think KOL is the Kollector or whoever, since that leak doesn't seem to align with this one and doesn't mention CET or TER.

I still think they might be filler names for already established characters. Not like I'd even know who the heck those characters would be anyway. I just think three brand new characters is more surprising than anything else. Especially considering that not only counts the classics out of the picture, but also characters that were just introduced within the last game. How good these characters end up being if they're new? Who knows. That's the part that worries me more than anything considering that MK doesn't have the best reputation when it comes to introducing new characters back to back.

 

[Invincibeast]

I'm willing to bet that the Kollector is Shang Tsung... since he collects souls...

 

[xXRagingFlameXx]

I'm willing to bet that the Kollector is Shang Tsung... since he collects souls...

Holy shit you're a genius

 

[Circus]

Holy shit, the first image of Kollector leaked:

 

[Error404]

This seems like fake news imo. The same achievment for so many characters? Not buying it.

 

[gitblame]

Terra Forr!

Everybody knows that in this symbiotic race Ferra / Torr represents - all kids names start with F and all adults start with T. So when Ferra growned up she changed her name to Terra. It's possible her `rider` will be called Forr.

 

[Krankk]

I've seen a lot of hate for Jacqui in this thread. Hate I understand and agree with. In my opinion Jacqui is a horrible character, because she is so basic when it comes to her powers / fighting style... and because storywise she is an incredibly sidelined character. Jacqui doesn't have her own identity. She is there to be Cassies best friend, Takedas love-interest and the reason why Jax joins the fight again. Cassie, Takeda and Jax all have better personal stories and sub-plots in the main story. And even powerwise they overshadow Jacqui by quite a bit.

But with all of that being said, I still wouldn't mind, if Jacqui made it into the game, but only under one condition: Jax has to go and never come back. Let Jacqui take over the mantle of Jax for good. Go all in with her having Jax' enhanced arms to replace his function as a character. Maybe even kill Jax off to give Jacqui proper motivation and more of a reason to fight. A big loss is always a very driving factor of a character (Spider-Man, Batman, John Wick).

And then... there is also the thingy with the diversity. In this day and age of media diversity is a big thing. And rightfully so, because inclusion is important. And Jacqui checks off a lot of things at the same time on the diversity list: She is an African-American, a woman and a female soldier (specialist). So you can kinda more or less use her to check off a couple of "mandatory" slots at once and leave room open for aaactually interesting characters, no matter their skin color, sexual orientation or religion.

 

[twistedspine]

I'm willing to bet that the Kollector is Shang Tsung... since he collects souls...

Dude... joking or not, this is actually very plausible. He might be someone they wanted to keep under wraps so the Kollector is just a codename to throw people off. Perhaps he plays a pivotal role in MK11.

 

[Metin]

Looks like those different colour options for Sub-Zero ( Purple, Green, Gray, Red ) are the big hints to deconfirmation of Rain, Reptile, Smoke, Ermac. Also Scorpion's projectile animation is same as Smoke bomb.. If this steam rumours are true that means we missed those hints.

 

[Error404]

Females: 8

Cassie Cage
D'Vorah
Frost
Jacqui Briggs
Jade
Kitana
Sonya Blade
Skarlet


Males: 12

Baraka
Erron Black
Geras
Kabal
Kano
Kotal Kahn
Kung Lao
Liu Kang
Raiden
Scorpion
Sub-Zero

Pre-Order Bonus: Shao Kahn

UNKNOWN: 3

*CET*
*TER*
*KOL*

This is the roster we're looking at so far. But, the thing is...there are still 2 slots that have yet to be filled out of the 25. (3 If Shao Kahn isn't part of the base 25. I think he is.) I think it's going to be Rain and Shang Tsung. I want Noob to be in, but I wouldn't mind him being DLC.

I like this roster, honestly. I'm excited to learn who the 'new' characters are who are currently unknown. I'm upset Mileena's not involved, but characters like Skarlet, D'Vorah, and Jade definitely make up for that imo.

Also, this is a major stretch, but if you unscramble some of the 'unknown character' letters up there you get words like 'Electro' and 'Rocket'. Sektor tease?

There's also the possibility that the 'unknown' names are placeholders for characters that they want to hold close to their chests until they're ready to reveal them. That means Shang Tsung, Noob, Rain, Sindel, etc all have a chance of being base roster still.

This one is pleased with the roster.

Lots of people in this thread seem to have forgotten , that the is literally a picture of JC in game

 

[Evil Canadian]

Yeah the fact that there are supposedly 25 Trophies just for doing fatalities sounds kinda bullshit.

steam cheevs don't play by the rules consoles do. Like look at a civ game, every civ has at least 1 achievement for winning, and another one for winning a specific way, on top of everything else.

Not to say this is necessarily the situation, but there is a history.

 

[Lord Greyjoy]

But with all of that being said, I still wouldn't mind, if Jacqui made it into the game, but only under one condition: Jax has to go and never come back. Let Jacqui take over the mantle of Jax for good. Go all in with her having Jax' enhanced arms to replace his function as a character.

No way. Jacqui needs to forge her own identity, and not be a substitute for a character with higher esteem and pedigree.

 

[Evil Canadian]

This seems like fake news imo. The same achievment for so many characters? Not buying it.

There is no doubting steamdb's credibility on the matter. The only question if these are purposely put in as a red herring to mess with the community knowing steamdb would scrape the files. SteamDB has been the herald to hundreds upon hundreds of leaks over the years up to very recently confirming DBFZ season 2 when everyone thought the game was "dead" over the tournament scare non-issue.

*edit*

Just to make the point REALLY clear. There is only 2 roads ahead of us. 1) Leaked trophies is 100% accurate, 2) this is a NRS false flag operation using steamdb as the catalyst. I have used steamDB to confirm countless DLC leaks and game achievements ahead of time over the years. Those 2 options are the only one present so its up to you to decide which one you believe.

 

[Fatal1ty_93_RUS]

That's really wack if this is the actual final roster.

Surely they wouldn't muck up like this since there were so many unintended "leaks" via SteamDB with other games?

So either this is part intentional/achievement names are just a coincidence, or DLC is gonna be the real highlight of the roster

 

[Error404]

There is no doubting steamdb's credibility on the matter. The only question if these are purposely put in as a red herring to mess with the community knowing steamdb would scrape the files. SteamDB has been the herald to hundreds upon hundreds of leaks over the years up to very recently confirming DBFZ season 2 when everyone thought the game was "dead" over the tournament scare non-issue.

*edit*

Just to make the point REALLY clear. There is only 2 roads ahead of us. 1) Leaked trophies is 100% accurate, 2) this is a NRS false flag operation using steamdb as the catalyst. I have used steamDB to confirm countless DLC leaks and game achievements ahead of time over the years. Those 2 options are the only one present so its up to you to decide which one you believe.

Maybe so , but with Qlocs history , I doubt it. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

 

[MrWarMachine]

Dude... joking or not, this is actually very plausible. He might be someone they wanted to keep under wraps so the Kollector is just a codename to throw people off. Perhaps he plays a pivotal role in MK11.

What if The Kollector (provided that's even a thing) is Ermac and Shang Tsung combined?

 

[Kratilim]

Honestly the roster looks good to me, lots of variety and a bunch of new faces. There's still about 2 or 3 slots then indeed depending on Shao Kahn being base roster unlockable or actual bonus character. I wouldn't get my hopes up too much for Havik, Fujin and the likes as far as base roster is concerned. Those last two slots could be anyone. There's indeed hints towards Rain, but also hints to his exclusion too. Johnny is also still a possibility, however I'm not convinced he's in just yet (I'd not mind him sitting it out tbh).

I'd laugh my ass off if they gave Frost the clone instead of subby.

 

[Circus]

I've seen a lot of hate for Jacqui in this thread. Hate I understand and agree with. In my opinion Jacqui is a horrible character, because she is so basic when it comes to her powers / fighting style... and because storywise she is an incredibly sidelined character. Jacqui doesn't have her own identity. She is there to be Cassies best friend, Takedas love-interest and the reason why Jax joins the fight again. Cassie, Takeda and Jax all have better personal stories and sub-plots in the main story. And even powerwise they overshadow Jacqui by quite a bit.

But with all of that being said, I still wouldn't mind, if Jacqui made it into the game, but only under one condition: Jax has to go and never come back. Let Jacqui take over the mantle of Jax for good. Go all in with her having Jax' enhanced arms to replace his function as a character. Maybe even kill Jax off to give Jacqui proper motivation and more of a reason to fight. A big loss is always a very driving factor of a character (Spider-Man, Batman, John Wick).

And then... there is also the thingy with the diversity. In this day and age of media diversity is a big thing. And rightfully so, because inclusion is important. And Jacqui checks off a lot of things at the same time on the diversity list: She is an African-American, a woman and a female soldier (specialist). So you can kinda more or less use her to check off a couple of "mandatory" slots at once and leave room open for aaactually interesting characters, no matter their skin color, sexual orientation or religion.

I feel like a lot of people are completely missing the point here.

Jacqui Briggs is a boring character. Sure.

But the reason people literally HATE her is because of this:

As many characters against Jacqui, the entirety of the match is slowly inching your way on her Full Auto fire. Full Auto wasn't even that great at a higher level to be honest, but the point is that it was absolutely 0% fun to fight against and it absolutely destroyed players not good at the game with minimum effort.

If Jacqui was a badass 8 foot tall fire breathing vampire with the same annoying 1 dimensional Full Auto keep away, she'd still be hated to a degree. The fact that she is just a bland character on top of it though, is just a recipe for just flat out annoyance.

MK11 will for sure make her more accepted because NRS is taking a more subtle approach on zoning in this game. I have no doubt about it, but I don't blame anyone for not liking her in MKX.