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BurdaA

Frost-Byte
Jiren is literally the most boring character in the franchise with 0 character development and frog face. I agree with current DBS charcters in the game, theyr cool but fk Jiren.
Agreed, lol I’d take Toppo over Jiren. Mo moustache for team Nappa
 

ShArp

Dedicated Broly main
So i did a test on how "accurate" the game tells if Im facing a ragequitter. Basically I didnt declined purple nick names too see how many of them will rq at some point during the match. Well its quite shocking how accurate it is: 8/8
 
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BurdaA

Frost-Byte
So, don’t know if this is common knowledge and/or universal, likely just me not knowing; but you can tag assist after a full L auto-combo and continue comboing. If you tag assist afterwards, the final hit of auto causes a smashesque bounce:
Credit to @Wetdoba for my Frieza 2bar bnb ender.

Obviously dmg is better if first hit whiffs.

Seems to guarantee a dragon ball without sacrificing as much dami (often found myself with 6-7 bars endgame and started looking into shenron strats).

Again, sorry if known, hope it helps someone.
 

Johnny Based Cage

The Shangest of Tsungs
I don't believe a single person that says 16 is their favorite character and they're not just going for the cheapest shit.
That's fine bro picking top tiers is nothing new just own up to it, don't give me this BS about how you love the character coz you're fuckin full of shit. No one loves 16, Yajirobe is a better character than 16 so I'm not buying that for a second. You just wanna play without using your brain that's cool man just stop being a bitch and say it.

Disclaimer: I'm not aiming at anyone specific I'm just saying it as a general statement, except if you use 16 then fuck you you're using 16.
Isn’t he one of the only big body grapplers in the game though? At least until Broly comes out I was considering picking him when I get the game for that reason alone, being that I’ve been maining them from T. Hawk to Abigail.
 

Sutter Pain

Your mothers main.
Gonna listen to audio book while grinding block strings and setups all day, gonna be fun. Trunks has some pretty cool left\right setups with his 236l and have not had the chance to really learn them yet.

 

EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
Gonna listen to audio book while grinding block strings and setups all day, gonna be fun. Trunks has some pretty cool left\right setups with his 236l and have not had the chance to really learn them yet.


I am actually intending to do the same thing, but not getting started until I get a few hours of sleep. Stupid 3rd shift.
 

EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
Yeah 3rd shift is a bitch took me a while to get used too it.
Yeah. My problem is I hate coming home and going straight to bed.. it just bothers me for some reason, but it's by far the smartest move. Instead I sit around so tired im half a zombie.

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UGL Preon

The Casual God
I don't believe a single person that says 16 is their favorite character and they're not just going for the cheapest shit.
That's fine bro picking top tiers is nothing new just own up to it, don't give me this BS about how you love the character coz you're fuckin full of shit. No one loves 16, Yajirobe is a better character than 16 so I'm not buying that for a second. You just wanna play without using your brain that's cool man just stop being a bitch and say it.

Disclaimer: I'm not aiming at anyone specific I'm just saying it as a general statement, except if you use 16 then fuck you you're using 16.
I play 16 because its like "Bro, Bane Can Fly. And like Haggar but you can't run from him" All I needed to see. SOLD. Had nothing to do with his tier status. As far as being dope character? If you've played story mode you know his highlight is being a "Sap". His lowlight? The entire story is a compilation of lowlights for him!
 

Sutter Pain

Your mothers main.
Yeah. My problem is I hate coming home and going straight to bed.. it just bothers me for some reason, but it's by far the smartest move. Instead I sit around so tired im half a zombie.

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Yeah I work 12-8 most the time and go to bed at noon and wake at 8pm when I have to work and I stuck to it till it took.
 

Sutter Pain

Your mothers main.
I play 16 because its like "Bro, Bane Can Fly. And like Haggar but you can't run from him" All I needed to see. SOLD. Had nothing to do with his tier status. As far as being dope character? If you've played story mode you know his highlight is being a "Sap". His lowlight? The entire story is a compilation of lowlights for him!
Shit is too funny, lets put a grappler in the game with multiple command grabs and ways to setup hkd's with and without meter mid screen. Which is fine no big deal but add all of the games universal mechanics and your giving a grappler a vanish, air\ground projectile, super dash, reflect on top of a amazing assist great damage and some armor on his 5h for the hell of it and a plus on block 214s(?).

Then you start to think WTF was they smoking lol.
 

UGL Preon

The Casual God
Shit is too funny, lets put a grappler in the game with multiple command grabs and ways to setup hkd's with and without meter mid screen. Which is fine no big deal but add all of the games universal mechanics and your giving a grappler a vanish, air\ground projectile, super dash, reflect on top of a amazing assist great damage and some armor on his 5h for the hell of it and a plus on block 214s(?).

Then you start to think WTF was they smoking lol.
What I'm not going to do is sit here and say "Lul he's balanced". I just know my friend said "Yo you got your copy yet? Cuz they put INJ1 bane in this game and he's got cross ups, long reaching normals, and doesn't have to bet his entire life on crazy stuff in this game, Its like fighting a Boss Mode Grappler. His auto combo ticks". Like what? What!? If they nerf him to the ground, (not likely this is ASW) I'm still in there. I've picked up 80% of the cast but at the moment the main squad is "Broke, Broke, n Broken". Goku Black/16/21

And I like how they turned Goku Black into a bond villain. That voice, combined with over the top verbage + "This is the End". Godlike.
 

Sutter Pain

Your mothers main.
What I'm not going to do is sit here and say "Lul he's balanced". I just know my friend said "Yo you got your copy yet? Cuz they put INJ1 bane in this game and he's got cross ups, long reaching normals, and doesn't have to bet his entire life on crazy stuff in this game, Its like fighting a Boss Mode Grappler. His auto combo ticks". Like what? What!? If they nerf him to the ground, (not likely this is ASW) I'm still in there. I've picked up 80% of the cast but at the moment the main squad is "Broke, Broke, n Broken". Goku Black/16/21
Oh yeah I know I was just putting it out there like wtf was they thinking just on paper he sounds so OP.
 

DarksydeDash

You know me as RisingShieldBro online.
I wouldn't mind jiren and UI Goku for dlc but the rumor is we might be getting saiyan sage goku and vegeta and I definitely don't want them in.
 

TrulyAmiracle

Loud and Klear~
Oh yeah if you’re a grappler fan 16 is like the ultimate revenge of eating all these projectiles and getting zoned out is so many games with terrible slow grapplers.
it’s like the salt of all grapplers for 20 years did the captian planet shit and combined into this asshat to finally be the wet dream grappler.

16 is basically the rainbow T-hawk version that me and my friends used to joke about when talking about buffs he needed in SF4.
“Give him tiger shots or a gun”
“His Anti air grab should be a regular grab instead of an ultra”
“Give him armored normals too”
“And a teleport that’s plus on block”
“LOL and combos after into a hard knockdown coz why not”
“He also needs an air dash and an overhead obviously”

16 covers all those troll and non-serious requests and even goes beyond.
Just looking back at other grapplers my mind is fuckin blown, and people thought Cerebella was insane coz she’s a grappler that can run and has a (shitty) airdash.

Also he was better in the beta, his grab ticked off of almost anything and his armor was quicker and gave even less fucks than now.
Vegeta’s assist and Piccolo’s hellzone were better too. Looking back now thank god they touched up those things even if it’s just a bit.
 

freerf245

11 11 11 11
You talkin’ season 1 or 2 dlc. Has there been more info on 2? Last I saw source was very questionable....
Season 1 looks real because Broly and Bardock were confirmed but it could still be fake. I don't believe that season 2 nonsense for a second.
 

Sultani

Warrior
Played 16 since day one. Not because i think hes cool as a character. But because hes super fun to use and hes totally bullshit. Those resets are ridiculous.

Also theres zero characters in this game that dont have ridiculous bullshit. And it makes me laugh when people bitch about 16 and then use goku black, adult gohan, kid buu, the blues, android 18, 21, cell, teen gohan, gotenks, yamcha, or trunks like theyre totally fine and honest. Knock it off.

The only reason people aren't bitching about piccolo is because very few people understand how to use him, but at a high level people are making him look like vergil.

"Lol 16 is like a version of a character we joked would be dumb in a completely different game because that context is totally relevant here." Shut up.

No one is getting nerfed. Welcome to arcsys games.
 
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EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
TG isnt the strongest character out there, though I don't think he's low tier at all, but Ive been more engaged in learning and messing around in the lab on TG than anyone other character so far. His routes are so fun and involved that even though I'm struggling to really get his stuff locked in, I don't get frustrated as easily and stay focused longer.

I haven't had much time recently though so my in-match experience with him his thin on the ground. The couple sets I have played weren't any kind of indication as to how he's going to work (or not work) at a higher level because the people I was playing werent very good and it was a wash, I just did whatever I wanted. I need to get him into more real matches but I really feel like before I concentrate heavily on that I have to have his basic stuff down. He's the kind of character that isn't going to win the neutral over and over and keep giving me chances to run my damage, and I need to make my hits really count. I dont want to rush ahead, and get frustrated and lose confidence in what he can do because I can't make him do it reliably.

Just random thoughts. Birthday dinner tonight then I'ma jump on and grind some training mode stuff.
 
It should count as a win if my opponent leaves before the best of three is up.

I have a ton of people leaving after I win a match on the second match...
 

EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
Played 16 since day one. Not because i think hes cool as a character. But because hes super fun to use and hes totally bullshit. Those resets are ridiculous.

Also theres zero characters in this game that dont have ridiculous bullshit. And it makes me laugh when people bitch about 16 and then use goku black, adult gohan, kid buu, the blues, android 18, 21, teen gohan, or trunks like theyre totally fine.


"Lol 16 ia like a version of a character we joked would be dumb in a completely different game because that context is totally relevant here." Shut up.

No one is getting nerfed. Welcome to arcsys games.
Arcsys have actually done a lot more nerfing/adjusting in the general - in GG at least - over the last two-ish years. There was some article/interview I read a while back that said the company wasn't against patching as a general rule, but they served a more niche audience and had a huge focus on arcade stuff as well, and as a result, rolling out patches and such was very difficult and very costly. Making it impractical.

DBFz definitely isn't niche and the money it's making and ease with which patches can roll out now (distribution platforms are reducing or negating patch fees), and - I would assume - a desire to keep the enormous DBFz audience happy all point to the POSSIBILITY of more frequent patching. If done right, they have everything to gain, and very little to lose. IF DONE RIGHT.

But I dont ever see them knee-jerk patching.

All that said, the only two characters in the game that imo need anything adjusted down, are 16 and Cell. I could see Black getting touched possibly.. and I worry that Hit might develop into something that needs a tap on the head.. but I'd much rather see some of the lesser used characters made stronger. With 16 and Cell if like anything done to be decently light touch.. but they are a clear step up on even the other characters that feel like a clear step up on the rest of the roster. I don't think they are broken by any means, I just think they over step the power threshold the game should probably aim for. But then again, if everyone could be brought up (or found to already be) at minimum the area characters like 21 and trunks occupy, then fuck it, leave em alone.

I've played 16 quite a lot.. but stopped simply because I thought I was winning, but wasn't getting any better at the game, this early in a games life I want to focus on improving at the core systems and such, so I replaced him. Of course, that said, I'm still a scumbag and play Hit, Black and Teen Gohan.