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Darkseid - General Strategies and Discussion

"black adam has to go to darkseid so darkseid wins" "flash has to go to darkseid so darkseid wins"
am i doing this right?
You seriously have a problem with straw-manning counter-arguments, people disregard your opinion for a reason. They were all explained thoroughly with good reason and logic the least you can do is post a decent argument back to them and stop assuming things.
 
literally never said that,looked back and thats exactly what i said, i only said no wotgs top 8s after u said u were substantially better than me.
You didnt say that but its what was implied.
i never said I was better than you now your just lying i said you werent so substantially better that my opinion didnt even matter.
 
You seriously have a problem with straw-manning counter-arguments, people disregard your opinion for a reason. They were all explained thoroughly with good reason and logic the least you can do is post a decent argument back to them and stop assuming things.
i only took the simplicity of that argument and put as much effort as was put in the original one.
it clearly isnt as simple as ba has to get in and so darkseid wins or its even or whatever
 
You straw-manned @Generalbit argument, there is one thing to cherry pick quotes and one thing to nefariously dumb it down where it becomes a crap post and not an argument to push the discussion forward.
I already discussed why its not as simple as darkseid zones out ba and ba has to get in. his argument was all centered around ba has to go in which doesnt mean anything and so instead of going into great length on why it doesnt work like that I just questioned the overall logic.
 
I already discussed why its not as simple as darkseid zones out ba and ba has to get in. his argument was all centered around ba has to go in which doesnt mean anything and so instead of going into great length on why it doesnt work like that I just questioned the overall logic.
Your counter argument to his was a straw-man, agreed but I'm certain General was going off Emperor Knicks arguments of the MU and was not throwing crap against the wall.
 
well if he was then i dont know why he said that. It was just an oversimplification of what was going on.
Listen bro, I know you mean well and I understand your arguments and where they come from. However, you really need to chill out with some the things you post up. Doing things like that and implying things just really make you come off as a douche. let's ensure we disagree with another in a respectful manner and not just call each other out over petty things and respect each other's perspective in this thread. There is nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree.
 
Listen bro, I know you mean well and I understand your arguments and where they come from. However, you really need to chill out with some the things you post up. Doing things like that and implying things just really make you come off as a douche. let's ensure we disagree with another in a respectful manner and not just call each other out over petty things and respect each other's perspective in this thread. There is nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree.
im fine with this in fact thats how it was going until knicks came.
 
im fine with this in fact thats how it was going until knicks came.
I like Knicks, but it might be a communication issue between both of you. Please try to keep it out of this thread and let us focus on our Character. We might not get buffs, but at least we can discuss strats, gimmicks and mind games.
 

Tweedy

Noob
I literally got a list of you guys asking for darkseid buffs. Whenever one of you say something stupid on a future game I can just look and be like oh yeah, it's that guy.
 

Tweedy

Noob
Basic imo you should post less and play more. The best way to win this argument is to level up and get to Knicks level or even better. It's not like you're bad, but you're not as good as Knicks rn.

Also Knicks I don't think it means that much to name drop ft3 wins. I 3-0'd Dragon but i'm nowhere near Dragon's level, Basic beat Rye and Rye is playing ridiculous rn, will probably get top 8 at NEC free. Not even saying this because you name dropped beating me in a FT3 specifically, but it seems like you always go to random FT3s you won(like vs Whiteboi) when trying to claim goat Darkseid. Everyone knows you're goat Darkseid and bringing up near meaningless tournament wins makes your argument look weaker than it should be.

This isn't boxing or mma. You don't have like a couple dozens matches in your life. People lose and win every day. One or two wins over big dicks mcgee on a given Sunday doesn't really mean anything. Making Eleague and consistently doing better than all other Darkseid does tho.
 

Invincible Salads

Seeker of knowledge
Yah from reading this you def dont play these mus correctly. However i did mean to say delay the air lasers so thats on me, but mixing up lasers is good vs bladam it keeps him in check, against many other zoners his checks are braindead not against darkseid, and he has to get in on him which makes mixing him easier, a lot of these things tha you are saying assumes that ur oppoent is literally god and making clairovyant reads with you not baiting anything out, you dont need to spam lasers 24 7 as darkseid, thats why you do things to mixup ur lasers, demons, teles, react to dashes , bait jumps etc, ba has to get in on darkseid. Against aqua you can enforce the mix if you know how, if you dont its a problem, and yes i bait aquamans ftd and other things, if they dont ftd and just walk back you can build meter and wait for trait, and i never yolo tele. Anyway i feel the best way to prove you wrong, is too play this bladams/aquamans that play the mus the way ur describing.
also how do u enforce the mix vs aquaman? is it something specific?
 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
I can see Aquaman being 5:5 because of the difference in damage output but not Black Adam. How would Darkseid go even with Black Adam when he does as much damage as Darkseid, has access to far superior normal attacks in footsies, has great mobility with dive kicks, has lightning strike and black magic to disrupt zoning, etc.
 

Cursa

Counterpoke with armoured DB2 at all times.
I literally got a list of you guys asking for darkseid buffs. Whenever one of you say something stupid on a future game I can just look and be like oh yeah, it's that guy.
I feel like most darkseid players have said F2 should be a mid at best for a buff, and even then most don't really mind otherwise from what I've seen
 

EMPEROR_KNICKS

Master of Kombat(frauds)
Basic imo you should post less and play more. The best way to win this argument is to level up and get to Knicks level or even better. It's not like you're bad, but you're not as good as Knicks rn.

Also Knicks I don't think it means that much to name drop ft3 wins. I 3-0'd Dragon but i'm nowhere near Dragon's level, Basic beat Rye and Rye is playing ridiculous rn, will probably get top 8 at NEC free. Not even saying this because you name dropped beating me in a FT3 specifically, but it seems like you always go to random FT3s you won(like vs Whiteboi) when trying to claim goat Darkseid. Everyone knows you're goat Darkseid and bringing up near meaningless tournament wins makes your argument look weaker than it should be.

This isn't boxing or mma. You don't have like a couple dozens matches in your life. People lose and win every day. One or two wins over big dicks mcgee on a given Sunday doesn't really mean anything. Making Eleague and consistently doing better than all other Darkseid does tho.
Yah u right tweedy
 

just_2swift

MK1 is the best MK period.
Agreed on his trait. It's either send your demon running or make him fly OH. The other two are just kinda...there.
What about buffing blue demon. Allow him to shoot three fire balls. Each ball takes up demon meter and leave charging blue demon the same going away after one charge.

Explody guy? Idk... Maybe have him follow the opponent instead of being stationary? Like have him waddle after them lol

Green guy is awesome.

This or maybe have less Cool down on trait? Idk
 

just_2swift

MK1 is the best MK period.
I can see Aquaman being 5:5 because of the difference in damage output but not Black Adam. How would Darkseid go even with Black Adam when he does as much damage as Darkseid, has access to far superior normal attacks in footsies, has great mobility with dive kicks, has lightning strike and black magic to disrupt zoning, etc.
IA lasers
 

Cursa

Counterpoke with armoured DB2 at all times.
What about buffing blue demon. Allow him to shoot three fire balls. Each ball takes up demon meter and leave charging blue demon the same going away after one charge.

Explody guy? Idk... Maybe have him follow the opponent instead of being stationary? Like have him waddle after them lol

Green guy is awesome.

This or maybe have less Cool down on trait? Idk
I like seriously have no clue about those demons aye. I don't want to go so far as to say the other two needs buffs but they're just so useless at the moment because blue only worked at basically fullscreen and green is still usually better then as well.

Red is good if you enjoy doing like 150 damage for a combo ending in stomp.
 
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Eldriken

Guest
I like seriously have no clue about those demons aye. I don't want to go so far as to say the other two needs buffs but they're just so useless at the moment because blue only worked at basically fullscreen and green is still usually better then as well.

Red is good if you enjoy doing like 150 damage for a combo ending in stomp.
The scaling on the red Parademon is ridiculous.
 

Cursa

Counterpoke with armoured DB2 at all times.
The scaling on the red Parademon is ridiculous.
It really is, I think it's more plus on block than the green one so you could use it to cover mix in the corner, but if I was fighting that I would just let myself get hit by the red parademon due to the scaling.

And although I THINK it's more plus than the green one, they're both massively advantageous anyway so it really makes 0 difference anyway except that red parademon has infinite damage scaling basically.