Add Espio872, if you will be on tonight, I would love to play a Firestorm. It has been far too long.
GGS, I'm gonna give you some tough love real talk that you need to hear so you can grow.
Your problem is that you don't clash and you always just horde your meter for no reason and it confuses me. You also don't block enough which is why you die. I hit you with like 6 low strings in a row because you don't block with Cheetah and most of Cheetah's options are lows, she has overhead grab but nobody is spamming that constantly. You lost like 40% health to a string that you could of just blocked but refused to block.
Same thing against Beetle, projectile is plus 15 on hit, you cannot press buttons after it on hit up close, you will get punished every single time.
If you wanna level up pick one-two characters and actually stick with them. There's play styles for every player in this game. I play a jack of all trades/zoner and a pure rushdown/mobile grappler. You can't expect to keep up with someone who is dedicated to one or two characters with your half hearted picks and then get mad when it doesn't work out. It's not Manta's fault, he goes even with Beetle and Vixen.
It wouldn't make sense if you were beating me when you don't stick to a main against someone who does. You teleported entirely too much as well.
I also play people that put in time with Manta, you can't expect to do good or great with him without the time investment. You get what you put into fighting games. Your expectations are too high and that's why you are frustrated.
Ok, I need to explain some things.. I appreciate the tough love, and I understand exactly what you mean.. but I do want to explain a couple things about some of the stuff that was confusing you. These ARE NOT MEANT AS EXCUSES - just an explanation, because watching me play sometimes makes a lot of people scratch their heads.
I wasn't playing to win at all with Manta.. I was playing to.. I dunno the right term. I was playing to explore? Its why I was spamming things, Id pick a string and use it 3-4-5 times in a row, or pick a special and just keep using it over and over. Its how I get a feel for things when I havent played a character before. I centrate, I pick one aspect of a thing and just sort of DO IT, then another, then another, and so on. Its the reason you saw so many teles in a row, or f21's or harpoons, or supermans, etc. I wasn't clashing because I wasn't trying to win, it just kinda got in the way of things, id rather lose and start with full health, then keep going. I should have explained what I was intending to do before we played, so you could decide if you even wanted to play at all, but all I was trying to do today in that set was get a very general idea of what Manta felt like, how he moves and interacts and how if specials feel and his strings and so on. Just how the character.. I dunno, cause how he works isnt the right word, but I guess, how he feels. To then decide if I want to actually learn him or not.
As to not blocking, I know you're going to call me a liar and that's fine.. but speaking towards you pressuring me on wakeup.. I WAS blocking. I was holding downback (Street fighter player, so just holding down doesnt feel right to me) OR I was trying to reversal superman. Not *once* in out sets unless it was a hand spasm did I wake up with ANYTHING other than a reversal superman or just blocking.. so it was me fucking up my bf2 input, or my hand shaking or acting weird and I guess letting off or something. Im bad at Injustice, but Im not bad at fighting games as a whole. I know better than to press buttons when someone is standing on top of me doing shit, unless I know how to beat it with buttons, like a fake meaty, or bad timing or whatever, but I dont know any of that in Inj. So what you saw there was just my hands being douchey. Did you notice that several times youd do Cheetah's 112 and Id block the first or second hit, then just open up? Hands. I'm stupid and I'm a garbage fire of a player, but I'm not so idiotic that I'd just start hitting buttons in the middle of a string, lol. As to the rest, you are spot on. I dont know my options, or Cheetah's, because I have to grind more, so Id stick buttons out after strings or whatever in neutral just trying to figure out how to contest her pressure, cause I cant just stand there and let you pressure forever. You are absolutely right though, my lack of knowledge killed me here because I just didnt know when/how to do anything. There are numerous other times I was stupid and hit buttons when I shouldnt, and you're right. I dont have any excuse other than I was so panicked about getting rolled back in to pressure I couldnt figure out how to beat that I was just sort of flailing.
BUt you are 100% correct, my BIGGEST issue is just not picking one or two characters and sticking with them and that I get out what I put in, I dont play enough. I go a week to 10 days at a stretch without playing and even though life does get in the way, I CAN make time, I CAN get in and grind. I spend far too much of my play time doing what I was doing with Manta today rather than playing with any coherence, which puts actually learning anything even further behind. Im always chasing a new character, and with my hands, thats even more of a bad idea, because it can take me so long to even basic stuff down.
So I need to concentrate on:
Picking 1-3 characters and STICKING TO THEM. I have Beetle and Swamp Thing. Ive been looking at Cheetah, Manta and one or two others as a third. I am going to try Hellboy some.. Cant help it. He's too cool not to.
Defense in general. Not just holding block correctly but understanding when AND HOW to take my turn back.
Just getting hours behind a character that are seriously me taking the match seriously. Not exploring or fucking about or tinkering, but clashing, escaping, actually PLAYING THE GAME how it's meant to be played.
Again, I dont mean any of that as some "Oh ok its fine" kind of excuse, I just want to explain a little of what was happening. My hands make for some weird shit sometimes. Like if you keep me locked down for an extended period of time, think like, Batman extended pressure or something, its very hard for me to unclutch the controller and start moving again, my hand is sort of clawed and my thumb is MASHING back/downback - but I can mitigate this by trying to actively keep from smashing my thumb down and like, kung-fu gripping my controller, but forcing myself to keep a looser grip and blah blah. I CAN work around my hands and after a while they just get used to what Im doing anyway, and arent an issue anymore. But in the interval they can lead to some weird shit on my end that's not intentional.
ANyway. I appreciate the games, next time we play I'll bring out Beetle and take things more seriously.
