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Whiteboi Wins Injustice 2 at CEO 2017

Ryu Hayabusa

Filthy Casual
Whiteboi won because of skills and his opponents not knowing how to properly deal with ScareCrow. Even then it wasn't like he completely shut down his opponents, he lost some and barely won some.

Scarecrow and atrocitus are fine the way they are.

Black adam, Aquaman, Batman, Deadshot, superman, harley and some other characters need nerfs. They just completely shut down their opponent's game.
 
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M.D.

Spammer. Crouch walk hater.
Congratulations Whiteboi, even if you 100% earned the win I can't feel good about it since you're getting my favorite char nerfed because you won and blackbataquashot will still run arround with broken crap.
 
If Whiteboi had to face Sonic,Tekken and/or Theo in the top 8 would he still have won? I think you still deserve your win just because of that match against the great king. Well played man congrats...

Slayer bro ggs man, really dont know why you did not atleats try BA once.
 
Are there overall stats for character usage? Top 5 characters still saw the most usage and were getting switched between for most of the top players.

It's great that a scarecrow won, but there's still a glaring issue with character variety and viability
 

Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
You guys are being ridiculous, of course the top 5 characters are gonna be used... it doesn't matter which version of the game, the best characters will get used most often. This is really good for the first version of an NRS game, comparing this to the first version of MKX makes it seem even more impressive. None of these characters are as dominant as vanilla Quan or Raiden, or as shit as vanilla Goro or Shinnok. Plus Scarecrow just won, it shows that one of the non super top characters can win. There are a lot of very good characters that aren't part of what is now considered top 5. Plus there could be a great character we don't even know about. In MKX, people legitimately thought A-List Cage was bad for months, Liu Kang was secretely broke af(pseudo block infinite, I believe legit block infinite day 1, and he kept one on Shirai Ryu Takeda for a really long time) but was also written off for a while.
 

Vengeance135

Saltiest Joker Player
In the words of Darth Arma: "If you're a Joker player and you think he's unviable, you need to get good"

Sonic's Joker pick was hype, but congrats to Slayer and Whiteboi
In the words of the joker community watching the match. BOTH The commentators had absolutely no idea what they were talking about when it came to joker at all.

The fact sonic fox picked joker against forever king and beat him AGAIN was absolutely surgical and one of Fox's smartest moves. Fox beat king at WNF with joker and knew he wouldn't take the time out to learn the Joker MU. King clearly didn't know the MU and you saw it on stream. He got so frustrated he was dropping easy combos.

Joker, just like any other character, can completely expose you if you clearly don't know the MU. There was so many things king wasn't doing that he could have done but on the brink of elimination with all that pressure against a character you don't know and a player smart enough to throw that curve ball, what would you think would happen?

But either way, there goes any shot a joker getting buffed because they fanboys who know absolutely nothing about joker will say "wow I thought joker was bad? But Sonic fox beat king in a top 8 with joker. The Joker community sucks, they have a top 10 character and they don't even know it, he needs nerfs." All that will be said without anyone clearly having knowledge on the character and taking into account king literally got mauled for not knowing what to do.

As the joker community said last night....

RIP Joker
 
Missed a ton of the stream since it was father's day weekend and I have a two year old...but hot damn what I saw was freaking amazing and I can't wait to sit down and enjoy the archive tonight!
 

NB Semi Evil Ryu

Former Sub-Zero of the Midwest (2011 - 2015)
Congrats to Whiteboi! I always love seeing a character come out of nowhere and be like, "I'M HERE TOO, BITCHES!"
 

Kooron Nation

More Ass and Tits for MK11
Scarecrow's trait should charge faster or something, because as you saw in every game with Whiteboi, he never got his trait to full charge and only used it as a round ender, which isn't really the sole purpose of it.
 

Saboteur-6

Filthy Casual
Why do so many people think that NRS makes sweeping balance patch changes based off of knee jerk reactions, tournament placings, or online warriors ranting on social media?

That's not how business / professional decisions are made. There's research, telemetry data, testing, discussion, and while user performance (at tournaments / online) is certainly looked into and considered, it's not the definitive end all be all. There's a structured process behind it.

Literally no competent company, agency, or organization makes decisions on a whim. Some of ya'll need to level up your adulting.
 
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Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
Why do so many people think that NRS makes sweeping balance patch changes based off of knee jerk reactions, tournament placings, or online warriors ranting on social media?

That's not how business / professional decisions are made. There's research, telemetry data, testing, discussion, and while user performance (at tournaments / online) is certainly looked into, it's not the definitive end all be all. There's a structured process behind it.

Literally no competent company, agency, or organization makes decisions on a whim. Some of ya'll need to level up your adulting.
While I agree they do a good job on balancing for the most part, sometimes they go way overboard. The MKX Cyber Sub-Zero nerfs were crazy, Iv never seen a character drop 5 tiers like that before
 
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M.D.

Spammer. Crouch walk hater.
A-list nerfs were because of thread spams and reddit spams and twitter spams from clueless people.
He didn't win anything, yet he got destroyed while grandmaster got buffed.

NRS LOGIC. NEVER, EVER, trust it.
 

SaSSolino

Soul Stealing Loyalist
A-list nerfs were because of thread spams and reddit spams and twitter spams from clueless people.
He didn't win anything, yet he got destroyed while grandmaster got buffed.

NRS LOGIC. NEVER, EVER, trust it.
Bone Shaper didn't win anything while he was broken either, it doesn't change the fact that he was too powerful.
 

CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
Administrator
The MKX Cyber Sub-Zero nerfs were crazy, Iv never seen a character drop 5 tiers like that before
Cyber Sub Zero wasn't in MKX alone, lol. Remember he was tied to other variations. It was probably hard to individually balance all of them so that no one was bad or broke. And MK9 was a long time ago.

We should probably cut NRS some slack and give them credit for learning and improving over time :)
 
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CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
Administrator
Is this a cheeky "CSZ was nerfed so hard that he wasn't even in MKX" comment, or...?
What I mean is, he wasn't a standalone character -- just a variation of 'Triborg'. People keep blowing this up, but they forget that all 4 of the cyborgs were tied together in the code, probably making perfect balance between them impossible.

And MK9 Cyber Sub was ages ago.
 
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