Doctor Fate General Discussion

[RexxyC]

☥ Doctor Fate ☥

Kent Nelson is Doctor Fate, a powerful sorcerer and agent for the Lords of Order​

Here is our guide made by @BlockIsTheAnwser:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XaXvfoSBTt4ekODuNmhHSnv5TTgLfAiQ81J6bDnRzgs/edit

Spoiler: Recommended Reading

Doctor Fate v1 by Keith Giffen and J.M. Matteis
Countdown to Mystery by Steve Gerber
Immortal Doctor Fate
JSA All-Stars #3

 

[Ninequads93]

 

[Ninequads93]

You can also get the same thing by canceling a corner combo with 11 dash cancel into mb roll

 

[Ninequads93]

U can do 11 in hit trait canceled into orb hold it and dash cancel it and it looks like it gives u enough advantage to go into a grab

 

[1man3letters]

im liking fate
seems to have the best AA out of the zoners maybe also, b1/b2/3 and d2 all decent imo

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

a lot of us are having issues with him in that you get NO damage in neutral and has issues AA'ing jump mobility/projectile characters. he is a character that will take a true main.. .there will be no pocket dr. fates

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

im liking fate
seems to have the best AA out of the zoners maybe also, b1/b2/3 and d2 all decent imo

which aa? back 2? that is his best one but it leaves him standing and u have to be super on point. d2's like cap cold or brainiac that move them to a crouch state are god tier

 

[1man3letters]

which aa? back 2? that is his best one but it leaves him standing and u have to be super on point. d2's like cap cold or brainiac that move them to a crouch state are god tier

yea those two but b1 and s3 aint too shabby either

yea agree with the crouching d2 thing, like BA aswell

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

yea those two but b1 and s3 aint too shabby either

yea agree with the crouching d2 thing, like BA aswell

s3? really? will have to test that vs low extending jump nomals like flash j1 or batman j2

 

[1man3letters]

s3? really? will have to test that vs low extending jump nomals like flash j1 or batman j2

yea the extended hitbox on it pretty nice

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

U can do 11 in hit trait canceled into orb hold it and dash cancel it and it looks like it gives u enough advantage to go into a grab

maybe this is the purpose of that dash cancel string. as a punish... if u are traited with an ank, after you dash, they will expect throw... depending out plus u are you might mix it up btw throw and b1 strings? or another 11?

I wish there was a way to hit confirm f2u3 or f2 push.. maybe there is some option select we need to find. how do u ever land a 11 with him other than punish?

f2push alllllllllllll day BUT some characters are emerging to punish like atroc rush punch, beatle d1 traited, batman bats

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

yea the extended hitbox on it pretty nice

how about above his head though? like defending against batman j2 form close range

 

[1man3letters]

how about above his head though? like defending against batman j2 form close range

yea doesnt cover over head, just where the magics aura is, find b2 better against the low arc jumps when they close in bit of testing did on it

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

yea doesnt cover over head, just where the magics aura is, find b2 better against the low arc jumps when they close in bit of testing did on it

B2 IS BETTER AT THAT RANGE BC YOU GET A B2 ORB AND COMBO EXTENSION. IM IN CAPS LOCK BC I FORGOT TO TURN IT OFF AFTER THAT THREAD I JUST MADE ABOUT ZONING

 

[Ninequads93]

maybe this is the purpose of that dash cancel string. as a punish... if u are traited with an ank, after you dash, they will expect throw... depending out plus u are you might mix it up btw throw and b1 strings? or another 11?

I wish there was a way to hit confirm f2u3 or f2 push.. maybe there is some option select we need to find. how do u ever land a 11 with him other than punish?

f2push alllllllllllll day BUT some characters are emerging to punish like atroc rush punch, beatle d1 traited, batman bats

Not really a way to hit confirm but u can do f2 trait cancel into mb push and it combos

Also looks like 11 might b his best stagger string since its plus 2 im guessing u have to make them block first with an ankh call or a 113 dash cancelled or a mb orb, I was messing with some block pressure once u have 3 ankhs off 113 ankh call or b1d32 (ankh call) was really late when I was testing this and I'm at work now will test it out more when I get home

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

https://twitter.com/_p2w_/status/864538854761652224

What the hell happened here?????

 

[babalook]

Am I just getting lucky or does a blocked EX ra blast guarantee all three ankhs if you release them while the opponent is blocking then they have to block the tracking mid that comes after, leaving you at advantage?

 

[DC4-3]

Anybody using his dd3? Or is there not that many situations that it'd be useful for?

 

[Boss Savage]

Anybody using his dd3? Or is there not that many situations that it'd be useful for?

Probably in the corner. Can't think of anything else.

 

[babalook]

Also if you release all three ankhs when your opponent is blocking your b1d32 all three ankhs will hit, so they can punish you and get hit by the tracking mid or block and idk get grabbed. If you have at least one ankh out, b3 dash d24 b1d2u2 will leave them right next to you in trait for a throw combo or you can release the ankh on your way down from the u2 and go for a somewhat hard to blockable crossup j3. I think having atleast one ankh out will be a core aspect of his game and knowing the spacing of his trait df[3].
I can't test right now, does anyone know if we can make canceling a string into trait safe by releasing a ankh immediately.

 

[Boss Savage]

I can't test right now, does anyone know if we can make canceling a string into trait safe by releasing a ankh immediately.

That's actually a very good question. I'll try labing it later when i get home.

 

[babalook]

Not my video but there's some really important shit here, we're all going to need to learn how to release ankhs whilst also canceling a string into ankhs summon. In trait this could potentially lead to decent pressure. Also if you have two ankhs and you end a combo with 2(release the ankhs)11db3 df3 the third ankh can only be avoided with delay tech, so you get all 3 on them .

 

[babalook]

we can cancel trait activation into MB b/f3. so if you have one ankh out releaseing it right as trait activates and canceling trait into MB b3 is pretty safe, also the opponent is probably going to want to attack you out of trait.

 

[knight x1868]

Question:
Why not just post the guide here?

 

[babalook]

I know it's a bit early for whining, but god I wish I could swap out his healing orb and interactable lock specials for something else, they are entirely useless to his game plan.