calm. down. game literally isn't even out yet. this kind of jumping to conclusions leads to really shitty design.
It. Is. Out. This isn't rocket science. You act like I haven't tested multiple options against players in a lab environment. You must not know who I am.
Seems a little early to count out patience, MB clone grab, MB dash/roll, log, etc all as trades or somewhat viable.
Let's wait a few days before the alarmism.
- You can only be so patient watching the opponent build meter zoning you.
- MB clone grab is slow, reactable and doesn't win in trades at all.
- His MB dash is a looooong animation compared to others. It recovers slow and some zoners can poke you before you can initiate anything even if you did it to beat out their projectile
- Log is ass. He's stuck in the animation until it disappears off the screen so no advancing on block and hardly anything on hit
Zoning is incredibly strong in this game. You all don't know because you don't have it. He needs a sure fire way to contest it at least with meter, perhaps letting vine grab get armor with a bar or having MB clone hold the opponent for a longer amount of time on trades.
Also what's fucking retarded is his vine grab is high. I can't get past that. It is insanely easy to react to in the neutral as a zoner and you can literally walk/dash right through it effortlessly and it has shit recovery. I hardly if ever use it honestly. The AA version is great though due to its speed.
