For Honor

[GAV]

sorry thats where you are wrong. The orders 9 times out of 10 are almost completely for dominion and 4v4 modes. Not only this but also the matches provide more xp and steel. Usually on 2v2s and 1v1s the games are faster but the rematches could take just as long because people quit. Objectively, the 4v4 modes are the modes to play when you want xp and when you want to actually get good the non 4v4 modes.

...but they are quicker so over a period of time, you get more gear which means more sslvage - and that is key in upgrading gear.

 

[Juggs]

I've been hearing Shugoki is top tier. Apparently a tier list video from the "community" is coming out soon with Shugoki at the top.

Even though it's retardedly early, what are y'alls thoughts on Shugoki and a tier list?

Personally I feel Warden and Nobushi are up there, don't really know about anyone else.

EDIT: Also PK seems underrated.

 

[Basic Stupidity]

...but they are quicker do over a period of time, you get more gear which means more sslvage - and that is key in upgrading gear.

upgrading your gear is pointless if you play 1v1s and 2v2s. Its barely quicker and 7 times out of ten they leave after the match and you have to wait forever for a new match so its not really quicker

 

[GAV]

I've been hearing Shugoki is top tier. Apparently a tier list video from the "community" is coming out soon with Shugoki at the top.

Even though it's retardedly early, what are y'alls thoughts on Shugoki and a tier list?

Personally I feel Warden and Nobushi are up there, don't really know about anyone else.

I think this game is pretty well balanced so far. Shugoki's are tough for me because he matches up well with Conqueror, but my brother plays Orochi and he sees them like they are a giant delicious hamburger.

 

[Basic Stupidity]

I've been hearing Shugoki is top tier. Apparently a tier list video from the "community" is coming out soon with Shugoki at the top.

Even though it's retardedly early, what are y'alls thoughts on Shugoki and a tier list?

Personally I feel Warden and Nobushi are up there, don't really know about anyone else.

EDIT: Also PK seems underrated.

his glitches make him really good but besides that hes just bullshit.
warden's "vortex" is gimmicks
Nobushi is just average
PK is good but straight forward and easily countered but she is going to be really good later

I personally feel that the only really good hero would be berserker and now valk

 

[GAV]

upgrading your gear is pointless if you play 1v1s and 2v2s. Its barely quicker and 7 times out of ten they leave after the match and you have to wait forever for a new match so its not really quicker

I haven't had many rage quits in duels and I win most matches fairly easily. My win percentage in Dominion is considerably lower and I'm strong in that mode, but I generally play by myself. Organized teams are difficult to contend with. You get better loot when you win. Also, Dominion matches generally end after a game or two.

 

[GAV]

his glitches make him really good but besides that hes just bullshit.
warden's "vortex" is gimmicks
Nobushi is just average
PK is good but straight forward and easily countered but she is going to be really good later

I personally feel that the only really good hero would be berserker and now valk

You're playing For Honor, right? Is there another For Honor that I don't know about?

 

[Basic Stupidity]

I haven't had many rage quits in duels and I win most matches fairly easily. My win percentage in Dominion is considerably lower and I'm strong in that mode, but I generally play by myself. Organized teams are difficult to contend with. You get better loot when you win.

Loots irrelevant to level. Your lucky if you dont get rage quits I always get them literally almost everytime.

 

[Basic Stupidity]

You're playing For Honor, right? Is there another For Honor that I don't know about?

Berserker is extremely underrated. valk with the parry tech and option select and versatility is very good.
Wardens vortex IS gimmicks
Nobushi is easy to block
PK is good but beatable
I dont understand the problem with what I said

 

[GAV]

Loots irrelevant to level. Your lucky if you dont get rage quits I always get them literally almost everytime.

I don't taunt in 1v1's. I feel like they're more personal, so I need to be more honorable. I play like a straight up hood in Dominion though.

 

[GAV]

Berserker is extremely underrated. valk with the parry tech and option select and versatility is very good.
Wardens vortex IS gimmicks
Nobushi is easy to block
PK is good but beatable
I dont understand the problem with what I said

Nobushi isn't easy to block. You have to go get them, which allows them to use areas to their advantage.

 

[Monox1de]

shugoki is good without the bugs which are currently making him god tier.

warden vortex is a gimmick yes but it will take some time for people to get used to when to guess and get out of it.

warlord is slept on. people know he's good but i think he is so simple at first glance people aren't exploring enough with him.

any of the heros are viable i think but as the player skill increases we will learn more about viability in matchups and an actual tier list.

 

[Basic Stupidity]

shugoki is good without the bugs which are currently making him god tier.

warden vortex is a gimmick yes but it will take some time for people to get used to when to guess and get out of it.

warlord is slept on. people know he's good but i think he is so simple at first glance people aren't exploring enough with him.

any of the heros are viable i think but as the player skill increases we will learn more about viability in matchups and an actual tier list.

You dont have to guess for wardens vortex tho.

 

[Basic Stupidity]

Nobushi isn't easy to block. You have to go get them, which allows them to use areas to their advantage.

well if you cant block nobushi its your fault

 

[CrazyFingers]

I've been hearing Shugoki is top tier. Apparently a tier list video from the "community" is coming out soon with Shugoki at the top.

Even though it's retardedly early, what are y'alls thoughts on Shugoki and a tier list?

Personally I feel Warden and Nobushi are up there, don't really know about anyone else.

EDIT: Also PK seems underrated.

Shugoki could be top but assassins give the fat man a bit of a struggle (Peacekeeper and Orochi specifically, I don't really struggle too hard with Berserkers) tho I still think Warden, Nobushi, PK and Warlord are all better than him.

 

[CrazyFingers]

Also, yea everyone is 100% viable in every matchup (except MAYBE Lawbringer vs Shugoki, Lawbringer gets super fucked in that.)

 

[Monox1de]

You dont have to guess for wardens vortex tho.

i thought it was either side dash out of shoulder if u think they are goin through with it, or they can feint it and parry if you go for dash-light ..or they can throw tech if they think ur gonna dash-guard break....i haven't had to deal with the vortex much i'm just basing all this off of listening to streamers talk about it.

 

[GAV]

Check out Klyka's YouTube. Very in depth character breakdowns.

 

[GAV]

well if you cant block nobushi its your fault

I can block every character just fine, but she is solid. A good Nobushi is definitely no cakewalk.

 

[Juggs]

 

[CrazyFingers]

Shugoki is good without the glitch. i know this because I don't USE the glitch and i body. He's really damn good trust.

 

[Juggs]

Shugoki is good without the glitch. i know this because I don't USE the glitch and i body. He's really damn good trust.

Yeah I know, I just posted that for those unaware, I didn't even know he had a glitch.

 

[CrazyFingers]

Yeah I know, I just posted that for those unaware, I didn't even know he had a glitch.

Everyone is good. Just some are better than others. I legit believe you could win a tourney with Lawbringer.

 

[Juggs]

Also, the best players I've SEEN play are iSkys and KingRichard15, both streamers. I really wish top FGC players like @SonicFox5000 would stream the game. Apparently he has a very good PK, but he doesn't stream the game for some reason. He could EASILY get 2k+ viewers if he did. iSkys used to average 100-400 viewers, tonight he had over 5k...

 

[Evil Canadian]

Several different explanations.

1) the game is coded in some way other then frames, which can cause frame rounding

2) the method you are using for testing is based on something inconsistent. if it is an indicator, that indicator may not be refreshed every frame

3) recording equipment. i believe some recording methods will actually capture at 59.9 causing 1 frame to be lost occasinally.

There is probably many other possibilities too. I'd say just take the average from several trials.

Yeah imma chock it up to the recording, I was recording at 60fps when game only runs at thirty. I switched to thirty and results are now consistent.

Peacekeeper zone still 9 frames though(of 30, so 18 at 60 I guess), monstrously fast considering it has a fakeout frame before the normal attack frames even start. Now if only a way to know what the inherent game delay is to see the "real" reaction times needed to block every move.