For Honor

[Basic Stupidity]

LOL! I mean falling for it the first time I get... but over and over IN A ROW!?? Lmao thanks @Basic Stupidity for posting this, it was actually hilarious and also not a bad strat to throw in.

Sadly this is a very common theme against assassins online youd be surprised. These players were rep 2 and 3

 

[CrazyFingers]

Speaking of Rep levels. I mirror matched a Rep Lvl 1 and a Rep Lvl 2 Warden. BODIED both of em. I was only lvl 3 on him lul.

 

[Juggs]

Sadly this is a very common theme against assassins online youd be surprised. These players were rep 2 and 3

Well considering I just picked up Shugoki today, literally first time ever using him, and I was beating 2 and 3 prestiges just by turtling... not too surprising. They super baby rage too, it's super fun.

 

[CrazyFingers]

Well considering I just picked up Shugoki today, literally first time ever using him, and I was beating 2 and 3 prestiges just by turtling... not too surprising. They super baby rage too, it's super fun.

Real talk, doesn't that character feel super strong and fun?

 

[Spooky Deadeye]

Remember how the final version of the games look before release. Ubisoft...

 

[Basic Stupidity]

Well considering I just picked up Shugoki today, literally first time ever using him, and I was beating 2 and 3 prestiges just by turtling... not too surprising. They super baby rage too, it's super fun.

Speaking of Rep levels. I mirror matched a Rep Lvl 1 and a Rep Lvl 2 Warden. BODIED both of em. I was only lvl 3 on him lul.

There's a general rule going around that when its a high leveled player they only played dominion and they are garbage. 1v1 and 2v2 dont give much xp at all and so all the bad players get really leveled up in the braindead gamemodes and then realize they suck in the 1v1 and 2v2s, while the players that play in the legit gamemodes stay relatively low level

 

[Yojimzo]

*finally tries Shugoki* Holy fuck. I love this. Shoulda tried this sooner, depending on how long they take to fix LB somewhat, I may end up maining Shu instead.

 

[GAV]

What's the best follow up to a successful parry? I play warlord and he seems to get nothing but a light attack.

Use the light attack to condition blocking. Then, go guard break.

 

[GAV]

There's a general rule going around that when its a high leveled player they only played dominion and they are garbage. 1v1 and 2v2 dont give much xp at all and so all the bad players get really leveled up in the braindead gamemodes and then realize they suck in the 1v1 and 2v2s, while the players that play in the legit gamemodes stay relatively low level

You get more items in 1v1 and 2v2 since the matches are much quicker. Dominion players will have to spend cash to have enough salvage to upgrade their gear while duelers and brawlers won't have to.

The guys that move as a group in Dominion are a little bummy, but if you don't - you're getting ganked alot and that's a good way to learn to play instinctively.

There really is no completely wrong mode or way to play.

 

[Wigy]

It was more of the timing that i didn't have down. I would go to tech and do the timing too early. I actually reacted to em TOO fast lol.

I think i do this. Also i press square about 826 times. Think that locks you out.

Works on mkx

 

[Basic Stupidity]

You get more items in 1v1 and 2v2 since the matches are much quicker. Dominion players will have to spend cash to have enough salvage to upgrade their gear while duelers and brawlers won't have to.

The guys that move as a group in Dominion are a little bummy, but if you don't - you're getting ganked alot and that's a good way to learn to play instinctively.

There really is no completely wrong mode or way to play.

sorry thats where you are wrong. The orders 9 times out of 10 are almost completely for dominion and 4v4 modes. Not only this but also the matches provide more xp and steel. Usually on 2v2s and 1v1s the games are faster but the rematches could take just as long because people quit. Objectively, the 4v4 modes are the modes to play when you want xp and when you want to actually get good the non 4v4 modes.

 

[GAV]

I ran into a good Valk, so I searched up his combo and here it is...

 

[Dizzy]

Testing frame data from moves and there is some oddities here
Some moves when done multiple times, I get different results on them. For example peacekeeper zone attack, it has hit by my counting at 9 frames, 10 frames, and 11 frames.

its either a) there is breathing hitboxes, or b) something to do with console version being at 30fps?

Several different explanations.

1) the game is coded in some way other then frames, which can cause frame rounding

2) the method you are using for testing is based on something inconsistent. if it is an indicator, that indicator may not be refreshed every frame

3) recording equipment. i believe some recording methods will actually capture at 59.9 causing 1 frame to be lost occasinally.

There is probably many other possibilities too. I'd say just take the average from several trials.

 

[Red Hood MKX]

Well the thing with the vortex is you don't always got room for a backdash, and if you are a bit slow it can get bopped, But generally speaking yeah if you have room and are quick on the draw you can roll out.

Nobushi just walk and block in, her moves are slow.

Ok Thanks bro

I got alot of questions about this game i hate that there is no good training system like mkx no frame data no nothing you just have to learn will playing and i hate that.

So if wardens vortex can be backdashed and rolled out its not really a vortex then. people need to stop saying he has a vortex he might get nerfed unjustifiable.

So Does anyone have any tech to chase down the backdash roll ive been trying to zone attack just on a hard read but its not consistent whats the best punish if they back dash roll ?? To all you warden mains out there

And can you not guard break orochi when he is side dashing i try to guard break him to catch the side dashes but it doesnt work its really annoying works on most characters but not orochi any tips

 

[Monox1de]

i have heard a couple ppl say valkyrie is the weakest class ...just noticed she is getting quite a lot of buffs in the next patch...but i just found a confirmable 2.5 bar dmg combo (found on youtube, didn't figure it out myself). I am so pumped for the changes coming to her, orochi is still my main squeeze but i absolutely am loving valk and her shenanigans.
after parry you gb,gb to knock them on their ass... dash f light, light, back+hold heavy for sweep then overhead heavy and it's all guaranteed if you time it right.... requires them to be out of stamina or the headbutt won't knock down so if you block a few attacks then 1 parry and headbutt will put them at 0 stam and it has been working out very well.

also that unparriable unblockable heavy attack from shugoki is bullshit and obviously a bug, it also performs a 2nd hit which i've seen do 5 bars of dmg ...the double hit version of this is like a bug inside a bug .. some sort of phantom hit...

sorry if either of these tech's have been metioned earlier in thread, i only read the last few pages.


edit: i now see the valk tech video up there from truetalent.... but it's not nearly as gamebreaking as untargetting after charging a heavy attack on shugoki making it unparriable....ridiculous.

 

[Basic Stupidity]

i have heard a couple ppl say valkyrie is the weakest class ...just noticed she is getting quite a lot of buffs in the next patch...but i just found a confirmable 2.5 bar dmg combo (found on youtube, didn't figure it out myself). I am so pumped for the changes coming to her, orochi is still my main squeeze but i absolutely am loving valk and her shenanigans.
after parry you gb,gb to knock them on their ass... dash f light, light, back+hold heavy for sweep then overhead heavy and it's all guaranteed if you time it right.... requires them to be out of stamina or the headbutt won't knock down so if you block a few attacks then 1 parry and headbutt will put them at 0 stam and it has been working out very well.

also that unparriable unblockable heavy attack from shugoki is bullshit and obviously a bug, it also performs a 2nd hit which i've seen do 5 bars of dmg ...the double hit version of this is like a bug inside a bug .. some sort of phantom hit...

sorry if either of these tech's have been metioned earlier in thread, i only read the last few pages.

yea they were mentioned above
After seeing that crazy damage after the parry there is no doubt in my mind that valk is going to be op

 

[Monox1de]

Ok Thanks bro

I got alot of questions about this game i hate that there is no good training system like mkx no frame data no nothing you just have to learn will playing and i hate that.

So if wardens vortex can be backdashed and rolled out its not really a vortex then. people need to stop saying he has a vortex he might get nerfed unjustifiable.

So Does anyone have any tech to chase down the backdash roll ive been trying to zone attack just on a hard read but its not consistent whats the best punish if they back dash roll ?? To all you warden mains out there

And can you not guard break orochi when he is side dashing i try to guard break him to catch the side dashes but it doesnt work its really annoying works on most characters but not orochi any tips

i don't play warden, but from what i noticed is when some one rolls out of the vortex they are left with little to no stamina,, ideally get them into the vortex without stamina and it removes the back roll option until they recover stam. do wardens have a reliable way to keep their enemies stamina down? i find the vortex pretty silly as it is on a character who has plenty of tools and mixups as it is.
watching top tier players play they face a warden/shugoki/orochi over n over again....mostly wardens....so i'm just speculating....i would like to see more warlords as i have had the most trouble vs. them....i do not play at top level yet but i can feel my mmr climbing based on my opponents actually using feints/parries/deflects instead of just light spamming

 

[Monox1de]

yea they were mentioned above
After seeing that crazy damage after the parry there is no doubt in my mind that valk is going to be op

with the buffs i've seen they are planning to give her, and if she actually is the worst at the moment, she will go from bottom to top tier in 1 patch...i'm also glad they are giving the peace keeper her bleed damage back to what it used to be in open beta...it is absolutely worthless right now. the 3 stab bleed after gb i mean.

 

[Basic Stupidity]

with the buffs i've seen they are planning to give her, and if she actually is the worst at the moment, she will go from bottom to top tier in 1 patch...i'm also glad they are giving the peace keeper her bleed damage back to what it used to be in open beta...it is absolutely worthless right now. the 3 stab bleed after gb i mean.

But shes not bottom tier right now
No other character can get that damage after a parry that is insane.

 

[Monox1de]

But shes not bottom tier right now
No other character can get that damage after a parry that is insane.

that's basically what i meant....i heard i think it was true talent say she was the bottom and worst character, and he said it right after learning how to do that combo....i think she is solid and did not think she was the worst before hearing that...and also i believe they are over buffing her...but she is my main bimbo and i would be excited even if they only buffed her half as much as they are planning to.

 

[Basic Stupidity]

that's basically what i meant....i heard i think it was true talent say she was the bottom and worst character, and he said it right after learning how to do that combo....i think she is solid and did not think she was the worst before hearing that...and also i believe they are over buffing her...but she is my main bimbo and i would be excited even if they only buffed her half as much as they are planning to.

I thought before this combo that she wasnt bad but wasnt good either
Now though I think she is definitely top tier and shes going to be buffed into god tier.
I knew I should have kept questioning the decision making of buffing her 6 times and no other character

 

[Tokiwartoothxdk]

that's basically what i meant....i heard i think it was true talent say she was the bottom and worst character, and he said it right after learning how to do that combo....i think she is solid and did not think she was the worst before hearing that...and also i believe they are over buffing her...but she is my main bimbo and i would be excited even if they only buffed her half as much as they are planning to.

there is no doubt in my mind that lawbringer is far and away the worst character in this game

 

[Monox1de]

I thought before this combo that she wasnt bad but wasnt good either
Now though I think she is definitely top tier and shes going to be buffed into god tier.
I knew I should have kept questioning the decision making of buffing her 6 times and no other character

i think they shouldn't be buffing/nerfing anything that has to do with balance quite yet...give the game time to breath and people time to adapt or learn new tech etc before pulling the trigger on buffing or nerfing any characters. ...for the first few patches they should be fixing bugs like the unparriable bullshit shug has and the phantom double hit as well...fix the gb bullshit that's happening too....another streamer was bitching that if you hit your GB first you can still lose when they hit gb a tad bit after you...not sure the validity of this accusation but he kept saying they were fixing it to how it was in beta so that's okay with me.

 

[Monox1de]

there is no doubt in my mind that lawbringer is far and away the worst character in this game

that could be true but i've seen some lawbringers who have absolute dirty tactics that work very well....i think it's hard to place anyone on a tier list right now that's why i was just saying that i heard some one else say valk was the worst.....there is plenty of tech to learn still and it's too early... some top skilled lawbringer was doing work on a few of the top streamers i was watching earlier so if him or valk are the bottoms right now according to these players then the balance is pretty decent right now if u exclude the bugged shenanigans.......for me personally armor feels too good...but that's just bcus i'm bad i think.

 

[Basic Stupidity]

i think they shouldn't be buffing/nerfing anything that has to do with balance quite yet...give the game time to breath and people time to adapt or learn new tech etc before pulling the trigger on buffing or nerfing any characters. ...for the first few patches they should be fixing bugs like the unparriable bullshit shug has and the phantom double hit as well...fix the gb bullshit that's happening too....another streamer was bitching that if you hit your GB first you can still lose when they hit gb a tad bit after you...not sure the validity of this accusation but he kept saying they were fixing it to how it was in beta so that's okay with me.

Yes they need to wait and let the game settle down. I am upset about everything in the patch except the bug fixes. The gb thing is a bad fix. They are only expanding the window even larger