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Question Who was the MOST Overrated character to get nerfed?

conqueror

conqueror

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KingHippo said:
On topic, it's gotta be Ermac, right? Feels like this dude should litter top eights with the amount of talk he gets.

EDIT: I just saw that it says to get nerfed, my bad. Kotal Kahn, probably? He didn't get a lot of nerfs per se but that kinda sucks to see he lost a decent amount.
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war god did get a lot of nerfs, for example before he had a b1 and armor launcher that scared people to press any button so he could keep his pressure, now?

b1 is a high and no armor launcher to fortify him (you could say others did lose armor launchers too but armor launcher in war god was really one of the main reason his pressure was good and people picked him over his other variations)

now getting in, (his weakness, he has to get it even against weakest zoners, since he cant challenge them from anywhere but upclose) got hit even more with nerfs to stamina, losing his armor launcher, sword throw plus frames and losing his b1 makes it much harder for him to get it in each time

what he got in return? he got b34 buff that is kinda useless in war god since he has a great knockdown advantage already, f1 going from -6 to -3 and f12 from -6 to -1 are not a big deal even more so when he doesnt have that armor launcher to scare them off, afterwards

so his strengths got hit and his weakness got hit, idk man hes really hurt and now hes much more reliant on 50/50
 
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GLoRToR

GLoRToR

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TheGangstaFace said:
So this is a simple question and I think an interesting topic. Let me give a couple examples:

I think Tempest was the MOST overrated character Pre-XL. People were still calling him top 5 in a game with: Tanya, A-List, Summoner, Takeda, Shinnok, HQT, Tremor (I don't remember if Tremor got nerfed to "abysmal" levels in September or XL), Liu Kang, Demolition, and Jax. If you've been playing this game for a while then you remember how dumb those character were after the September patch and I'm sure there's some I missed.

I'd also like to mention War God. The top 3 pre October patch I think were pretty clear IMO: Piercing, Alien, and Demo. Then the next 2 for top 5 had plenty of contenders like Takeda, Cuckthroat, Ermac, Shotgun, Swarm Queen, A-List (possibly more) and yet he was one of the few that got hit the hardest IMO with the latest patch.

Agree? Disagree? Have a different answer? Go ahead and lemme know below
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Make it a poll so we can get actual data
 
Wigy

Wigy

There it is...
Its not that high risk to do iakb since nobody blocks high versus cyber or commando.

Its one of these things where the risk reward is so stupid for them to block high when you're close because kano ball doesnt lead to anything so you get tonnes of kano balls.

U seen revet play tanya, he does that insant air overhead 24/7
 
TheGangstaFace

TheGangstaFace

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Wigy said:
Its not that high risk to do iakb since nobody blocks high versus cyber or commando.

Its one of these things where the risk reward is so stupid for them to block high when you're close because kano ball doesnt lead to anything so you get tonnes of kano balls.

U seen revet play tanya, he does that insant air overhead 24/7
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Look at it anyway you want, it's high risk low reward lol. I'm not saying it's bad. I think Kano's pressure can be stupid. I'm just stating a fact. Cyber has to mix you up MK9 style
 
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Wigy

Wigy

There it is...
TheGangstaFace said:
Look at it anyway you want, it's high risk high reward lol. I'm not saying it's bad. I think Kano's pressure can be stupid. I'm just stating a fact. Cyber has to mix you up MK9 style
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Im saying its not that high risk because the opponent knows low is like 30% or endless d4's or a full punish overhead thats 12%.

Its one of those things where it being kind of crap makes it good lol.

Liu kangs b2 is the same, its a 5% full punish overhead thats punishable -on paper anyway lol.
 
GAV

GAV

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TheGangstaFace said:
So this is a simple question and I think an interesting topic. Let me give a couple examples:

I think Tempest was the MOST overrated character Pre-XL. People were still calling him top 5 in a game with: Tanya, A-List, Summoner, Takeda, Shinnok, HQT, Tremor (I don't remember if Tremor got nerfed to "abysmal" levels in September or XL), Liu Kang, Demolition, and Jax. If you've been playing this game for a while then you remember how dumb those character were after the September patch and I'm sure there's some I missed.

I'd also like to mention War God. The top 3 pre October patch I think were pretty clear IMO: Piercing, Alien, and Demo. Then the next 2 for top 5 had plenty of contenders like Takeda, Cuckthroat, Ermac, Shotgun, Swarm Queen, A-List (possibly more) and yet he was one of the few that got hit the hardest IMO with the latest patch.

Agree? Disagree? Have a different answer? Go ahead and lemme know below
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Ask the question straight then...

Which formerly strong, but nerfed character now sucks the most?
 
TheGangstaFace

TheGangstaFace

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Wigy said:
Im saying its not that high risk because the opponent knows low is like 30% or endless d4's or a full punish overhead thats 12%.

Its one of those things where it being kind of crap makes it good lol.

Liu kangs b2 is the same, its a 5% full punish overhead thats punishable -on paper anyway lol.
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I'd say that's another example of meh risk. It's only -11 with push back
 
Espio

Espio

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If you have an issue with staff you can post about it via PM or another avenue, clearly this thread is not the place for it as the topic is not related in any way.
 
TheGangstaFace

TheGangstaFace

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villainous monk said:
Come on man...

That move is overrated. You can bait it and it's his & cmd go to.

Nah.

@TheGangstaFace knows what's up.

High risk low reward useless overrated move that leads kano exactly where he started.

Begging to get in.

Overrated.
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I wouldn't go as far as "useless" but it is risky. It's helps condition the opponent. Idc who you are, if you eat 3 of those in a row it's gonna piss you off enough to block high lol. 3 Kano Balls in a row is 27%
 
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mkJohnson

Noob
CrazyFingers said:
Are you aware that there are more than two good TG players out there? And they've showed that TG is far from unplayable? Oh, didn't think so
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I'm not saying TG is unplayable but what TG players are you referring to,because no TG player has even made it out of pools in this version of the game unless you consider playing well in online casuals as showing that the character is far from unplayable.
 
CrazyFingers

CrazyFingers

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mkJohnson said:
I'm not saying TG is unplayable but what TG players are you referring to,because no TG player has even made it out of pools in this version of the game unless you consider playing well in online casuals as showing that the character is far from unplayable.
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Can we as a community actually decide whether we're going to use tournament results for our tier arguments or not? Because hearing this shit and then hearing "Tournament results don't matter" is really starting to piss me off.
 
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