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CrazyFingers

The Power of Lame Compels You
I was just reading Birdie's Season 2 patch notes and even with all of those damage nerfs MAN STILL HITS LIKE A TRUCK. Could you imagine if those damage nerfs didn't happen?
 

FL Rushdown

Champion
Welcome to my world.
Yeah except you've actually got hp and the best dash stopping light in the game lol. I just gotta work on that lk into tatsu buffer.

Also what cool tech could gief possibly be trying to implement lol? Whiff knee into spd? Or lk cancel into rbg? I kill myself trying to do stupidly fancy stuff with akuma, can't imagine a gief getting that urge.
 

CrazyFingers

The Power of Lame Compels You
It's bad, not unwinnable, but pretty bad.
Like you have Akuma having bad fireballs, Akuma needing to get in close with Gief because of this (which is wear Gief wants you to be) and then finally Gief's V-Skill answers a lot of what makes Akuma really strong. It seems pretty bad yea.
 

JJvercetti

Warrior
Yeah except you've actually got hp and the best dash stopping light in the game lol. I just gotta work on that lk into tatsu buffer.

Also what cool tech could gief possibly be trying to implement lol? Whiff knee into spd? Or lk cancel into rbg? I kill myself trying to do stupidly fancy stuff with akuma, can't imagine a gief getting that urge.
That is the risk you take, deciding to use a character with small hp and a lot of tools. Just because you cant imagine something does not mean stuff happens.
 

FL Rushdown

Champion
Like you have Akuma having bad fireballs, Akuma needing to get in close with Gief because of this (which is wear Gief wants you to be) and then finally Gief's V-Skill answers a lot of what makes Akuma really strong. It seems pretty bad yea.
Giefs v skill is a pretty big double edge sword in that matchup though. If he does it vs an akuma with trigger things get really scary really fast.
 

FL Rushdown

Champion
That is the risk you take, deciding to use a character with small hp and a lot of tools. Just because you cant imagine something does not mean stuff happens.
? I was just saying that gief doesn't really have anything he can tunnel vision on hard enough to get himself killed. He's a cool character but he's got 0 flash and outside of a non buffered standing 720 nothing super "cool" to go for.
 

chores

bad at things
Like you have Akuma having bad fireballs, Akuma needing to get in close with Gief because of this (which is wear Gief wants you to be) and then finally Gief's V-Skill answers a lot of what makes Akuma really strong. It seems pretty bad yea.
when your specials are basically the best of both worlds between cammy and ryu then it seems reasonable that your stubby normals will end up being a problem vs some characters
 

FL Rushdown

Champion
when your specials are basically the best of both worlds between cammy and ryu then it seems reasonable that your stubby normals will end up being a problem vs some characters
His specials are not even close to as good as ryus,/cammys and they never have been. Only exception being demon flip is better than hooligan.

His fireball has suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuper bad frame data, and his divekick is almost exclusively for baiting aas. He's got a good mix of moves and they're all decent but ryus fireball and dp have always been better and cammys mobility options/divekick frames have also always been better. If you're respecting an Akumas fireball game like you would a ryus or his divekicks like you do a cammy/yun you're giving akuma too much respect.
 

chores

bad at things
His specials are not even close to as good as ryus,/cammys and they never have been. Only exception being demon flip is better than hooligan.

His fireball has suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuper bad frame data, and his divekick is almost exclusively for baiting aas. He's got a good mix of moves and they're all decent but ryus fireball and dp have always been better and cammys mobility options/divekick frames have also always been better. If you're respecting an Akumas fireball game like you would a ryus or his divekicks like you do a cammy/yun you're giving akuma too much respect.
lots of good points -
what makes his dp worse than ryus?
 

FL Rushdown

Champion
lots of good points -
what makes his dp worse than ryus?
In 5 its not significantly worse in any other way than it's a worse bet for him since the risk is higher. Previous games though(4 especially) you couldn't really use it as a wakeup since it had a tendency to hit once and leave them grounded while you continued to go up and they could punish.
 

Johnny Based Cage

The Shangest of Tsungs
So if you get CC'd by Birdie's F. HP while your back is to the corner and he has either Super, Full V-Meter or BOTH. Prepare your anus
Your kid-on-Christmas-morning posts about everything you discover in this game are hilarious and dope. Great counterbalance to the usual complaining some of us whose names I won't mention but sort of rhyme with "piles o' shite" like to post ad infinitum.
 

buyacushun

Normalize grab immunity.
@buyacushun ggs I guess. I'm sitting here trying to do Kara demons and shit and you're just doing dash up throw. Fml. I need a buffer.
You really going to sum the game up to dash up throw throw? That hurts.

Protip: all 6 buttons x2, forward, all 6 buttons x2.

Yeah except you've actually got hp and the best dash stopping light in the game lol. I just gotta work on that lk into tatsu buffer.

Also what cool tech could gief possibly be trying to implement lol? Whiff knee into spd? Or lk cancel into rbg? I kill myself trying to do stupidly fancy stuff with akuma, can't imagine a gief getting that urge.
You ever hit all the directions in your 360 just right?

Actually capcom should give zangief a just frame 360.
 

CrazyFingers

The Power of Lame Compels You
Your kid-on-Christmas-morning posts about everything you discover in this game are hilarious and dope. Great counterbalance to the usual complaining some of us whose names I won't mention but sort of rhyme with "piles o' shite" like to post ad infinitum.
Game is fucking great man, loving it all and this thread could use some happy
 

FL Rushdown

Champion
You really going to sum the game up to dash up throw throw? That hurts.

Protip: all 6 buttons x2, forward, all 6 buttons x2.


You ever hit all the directions in your 360 just right?

Actually capcom should give zangief a just frame 360.
Man I teched your dash up throw and you literally dashed up and threw me after it. I sighed so hard my dog came jumped off my bed like some shit was going down.

Also I'm not sure what your protip is in reference to.

Edit:autocorrect.
 
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