Dankster Morgan
It is better this way
Iv had leatherface listed as 6-4 thoughhe said 7-3 all variations, when pretty lady does pretty well against sub. That's why I questioned it
Iv had leatherface listed as 6-4 thoughhe said 7-3 all variations, when pretty lady does pretty well against sub. That's why I questioned it
Depends on which Kotal; Sun God is a threat if he gets the corner positioning from what I played.Do you think kotal loses 7-3 to sub still? even with the new patch with his pizza toss?
war god isnt even. all kotal variations get bodied.Depends on which Kotal; Sun God is a threat if he gets the corner positioning from what I played.
Blood God isn't much; just don't fall for the D1 trap into the standard bnb with crystal totem up.
War God is even now
Havent seen you in ages boi, wassupwar god isnt even. all kotal variations get bodied.
This I confirm.war god isnt even. all kotal variations get bodied.
noBased on what I know after the patch. A lot is different. Sub is better now. I think he is in the top 10, but not top 5 as he has too many counters. But he decimates some characters.
Free as fuck:
Jax
Kotal Kahn
Smoke
Cyrax
Cyber Sub-Zero
Advantage Sub-Zero:
Jason
Kitana
Cassie Cage
Leatherface
Kano
Johnny Cage
Erron Black
Reptile
Sektor
Slight advantage Sub-Zero:
Liu Kang
Mostly even:
Kung Lao
Scorpion
Sub-Zero
Jacqui
Bo Rai Cho
Quan
Goro
Slight disadvantage Sub-Zero:
Tanya
Shinnok
Ferra/Torr
Disadvantage Sub-Zero:
Alien
Kenshi
Kung Jin
Predator
Raiden
Drink bleach:
Sonya
Mileena
Takeda
Ermac
D'Vorah
Tremor
Winning: 15
Even: 7
Losing: 14
Which part doe
csz isnt THAT free.Which part doe
I think Dragon is probably the better player. The ass is good tho. It's kind of a mindfuck which is why I kept this "chart" pretty lowkey and avoided using numbersBtw Dragon thinks Kitana wins and he bullied all Subs at NEC.
Dragon might just be the better player but idk. Dat ass.
I could see kitanacsz isnt THAT free.
kitana is very even.
liu is very even also.
sub loses to shotgun and full auto slightly.
i think dn tanya beats sub slightly but if youre talking about pyro or kobu sub beats her 6-4. sub vs all shinnok is 5-5.
predator jin and raiden are 5-5 and sub beats alien VERY badly. move kenshi to drink bleach also pls.
demo sonya is only slight adv to her imo. tremor is 5-5 ive always thought ermac is slight adv too. dvorah is even and sub beats mileena.
btw im assuming adv is like 7-3 6-4 and slight adv is like 5.5-4.5
Mileena after the patch is in Slight Disadvantage list. The reason would be to look out for her tele kick and YOLO roll. I don't have much experience for Ethereal (Kingsglaive variation. lol). With good reading and much patience she's doable to be beaten.Based on what I know after the patch. A lot is different. Sub is better now. I think he is in the top 10, but not top 5 as he has too many counters. But he decimates some characters.
Free as fuck:
Jax
Kotal Kahn
Smoke
Cyrax
Cyber Sub-Zero
Advantage Sub-Zero:
Alien
Jason
Cassie Cage
Leatherface
Kano
Johnny Cage
Erron Black
Reptile
Sektor
Slight advantage Sub-Zero:
Liu Kang
Mostly even:
Kung Lao
Kitana
Scorpion
Sub-Zero
Bo Rai Cho
Quan
Goro
Slight disadvantage Sub-Zero:
Tanya
Shinnok
Ferra/Torr
Jacqui
Disadvantage Sub-Zero:
Alien
Kenshi
Kung Jin
Predator
Raiden
Drink bleach:
Sonya
Mileena
Takeda
Ermac
D'Vorah
Tremor
Winning: 15
Even: 7
Losing: 14
Eh??? Ancestral doesn't have bolts nor anything that goes and comes back, you're either thinking of Shaolin and his Chakram or you have a really weird idea of what Ancestral is lolAncestral variation has the slight advantage, because of his bolts going and coming back. He's mostly beatable, if you keep your distance.
My mistake. If it's Shaolin with that Chakram, then it is. lolCan confirm Shotgun beats Sub. I also think Ermac beats Sub but I want to hear your take on that matchup @Rolling_Toaster
Eh??? Ancestral doesn't have bolts nor anything that goes and comes back, you're either thinking of Shaolin and his Chakram or you have a really weird idea of what Ancestral is lol
yeah but i still think he loses. madzin full auto and i all agree she beats him.Wasn't Tom talking about how Sub beats Jacqui free? Did you explore your options with him? @Rolling_Toaster
if sub gets hqt in the corner hes dead. sub also gets a full combo punish on d4 disc (all ranges). just gotta play patient and work your way in.Why doesn't he lose to HQT, Shaolin, or D'Vorah?
Sorry, but why do you think she can beat Sub 6-4? Thanks to her lack of hurtboxes, I would assume that she beats him 8-2. If she had that Alien fix, she would surely be 6-4.yeah but i still think he loses. madzin full auto and i all agree she beats him.
if sub gets hqt in the corner hes dead. sub also gets a full combo punish on d4 disc (all ranges). just gotta play patient and work your way in.
ive never thought the shaolin mu was AS bad as people said it was last patch but the db1 buff for sub and the nerfs to jin made it 5-5. also i take back what i said about dvorah i dont think its really drink bleach worthy but its in her favor for sure 6-4 imo.