You should be able to play the game based on frame data. It shouldnt be a case of blind reads cause roll ignores frame data. Not something that should be in the game.
how the hell roll ignores frame data?
First off I never said my d1 was 6 frames. You can look everywhere I never said that. Second, even if my d1 came out in 8 frames the mixup would still work. I recorded the frame data and the gap that I got from the blocked b12 into the d1 was a gap of 10 frames which is why I said that the opponent can press buttons at "approximately 26 frames." With this in mind that means that if the OPPONENT does a 6 frame d1 then it would take them about 32 frames after the B12 for them to hit me and if I do a d1 then it would take 36 frames for my d1 to hit after the b12 (because of the gap mentioned above). SOOOO my NON ex teleport starts at the 26th frame of the b12 on block. I am invincible until I reach the other side which takes a total of 8 frames (since I go into the ground). But because there is a gap that means that the d1 from the opponent will still come out. SOOOOOOO when the opponent thinks that i am going to go for a d1 after the B12 on block they will d1 in the first 4 frames or 5 frames to beat my d1 but I will have Non ex teleported so when there d1 whiffs I either punish it (depending on its whiff recovery/ hurtbox) do a mixup or pressure.
i shouldnt press buttons when im plus?
Frame data is not about how close, its always exact.
Insult me however you want even if my frame data was off by an additional 4 frames the mixup would still work. Try it for yourself. If shinnok does a d1 in an attempt to stuff my d1 after the b12 on block I can punish him with a Non ex teleport throw.
This man spoke it for me.
Do you have a button fast enough to check mileena without risking getting hit by the roll? Which in that case its not what he did, that string doesn't seem unsafe to be check at all.
Look at when the buttons are being pressed you idiot.
I play kung lao everyone else here knows i do, probably longer than you, i know how his frame data changed, git gud bro, its not an insult gg on your theory.
your name says everything about you
Basic Stupidity refers to the basic laws of human stupidity. Laws that you clearly follow
git fucking gud brah, u suck
I meant in general not that dudes example.
1v1 m8. Like to see you d1 my non ex teleport after b12 since its apparently not a thing.
yup it does, definitely but not that guy's example.
I hardly d1 in this game, i predict stupid strats like this one and blow it up, look for it on youtube.
Do you let yourself get poked all the time when you should poke? I find it weird
i hear you, but its a terrible design.
Roll doesn't low profile johnnys f3.
Her d3 and Roll just have a hurtbox way lower than it should, so this tends to happen on trades, if anything think this is new its hilarious, Skarlet had an nearly exact same d3 and i used a lot to avoid jump ins, crossups and even some mids and projectiles back then.
D1 and d3 and d4 are not the only pokes in this game, most ppl concept of poking here on tym is clearly outdated as fuck.
I shouldnt have to be punished for doing my fastest move against someone who is minus 5 on block. I realize that I will get punished but I was questioning whether or not it is fair.Her d3 and Roll just have a hurtbox way lower than it should, so this tends to happen on trades, if anything think this is new its hilarious, Skarlet had an nearly exact same d3 and i used a lot to avoid jump ins, crossups and even some mids and projectiles back then.
the part i laugh at this thread, is OP thinking doing d3~roll or roll on small negative frames is broke, its actually a viable option because there is no way she will trade against any referred move until now.
what is wrong with this is, ppl are do used to d1 out of everything in this game it kinda stinks, so when their d1 gets countered by something like this its suddently utter broke.
There isn't really nothing to see here, if this is as broke as ppl think lord paulo will adress this if another patch is coming, if not, just git gud and stop trying to approach every character with the same strategy.