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@MylesWright_

I'll be back 3ing
I use Alien, I lose too. I'm not supposed to but I really suck in mkx. So yea tiers exist but also players skill matter. You use fang, even if I use Nash or Ryu you'll probably body me. Also we don't know how good urien will be.
I stopped using F.A.N.G months. I've moved on to worse characters.

We don't know yet but I think he'll be bad just because it's SFV. You need stupid things to be a good character and he doesn't appear to have them

Guile: upper-mid tier
Alex: lower-mid tier
Balrog: lower-mid tier
Ibuki: low tier
Juri: probably lower-mid tier

I think it all relates to their ultra conservative approach to DLC and character adjustments due to CPT. They want to make sure they don't ruin the tour by unleashing some broken DLC that flubs the results of one event, resulting in a free invite for somebody that didn't earn it.

I think Urien will be decent though. He seems to actually have some zoning and some really good buttons, which should keep him competitive in a lot of matchups. This is all speculation of course.
Where was this conservative approach when they made Chun-Li? Capcom just do whatever they want; if they want the character to be good they will be hence Ryu, Chun-Li and Ken
 
I stopped using F.A.N.G months. I've moved on to worse characters.

We don't know yet but I think he'll be bad just because it's SFV. You need stupid things to be a good character and he doesn't appear to have them



Where was this conservative approach when they made Chun-Li? Capcom just do whatever they want; if they want the character to be good they will be hence Ryu, Chun-Li and Ken
Lol I think you're thinking of a different game, "stupid things"? Nah man it's skill. Also how about Nash and Necalli? They're not good?
 

Rip Torn

ALL I HAVE IS THE GREEN.
I stopped using F.A.N.G months. I've moved on to worse characters.

We don't know yet but I think he'll be bad just because it's SFV. You need stupid things to be a good character and he doesn't appear to have them



Where was this conservative approach when they made Chun-Li? Capcom just do whatever they want; if they want the character to be good they will be hence Ryu, Chun-Li and Ken
They were conservative with the DLC roster. The original roster is too powerful but they were balancing the game around Ryu and Chun, who I believe were the first characters completed. They want to keep the game balanced by not creating any more monsters, so to speak.

Basically, they learned from NRS what not to do. Don't make DLC too strong and don't shift the tiers around every few months. Give the game time to breathe, so you can actually define what needs to be nerfed/buffed.

I think they are being a little too conservative, however. I would have liked to see some small nerfs to the top tiers by now. Right now the game is feeling kind of stale. Hopefully Urien will spice things up.
 
I stopped using F.A.N.G months. I've moved on to worse characters.

We don't know yet but I think he'll be bad just because it's SFV. You need stupid things to be a good character and he doesn't appear to have them



Where was this conservative approach when they made Chun-Li? Capcom just do whatever they want; if they want the character to be good they will be hence Ryu, Chun-Li and Ken
Because chun Li and Ryu are winning all the events right? There's 0 diversity in sfv top 8/16s.
 

CrazyFingers

The Power of Lame Compels You
That's what I don't get about him, more characters have won more events, there's always been diversity in every event top 8 yet he seems to just disregard that and shit on SF 5. The game speaks for itself man, wether he or anyone admits it or likes it or not.
He's just salty because his character isn't super crazy and has to bag on everything else to try and make himself feel better *smh*
 

God Confirm

We're all from Earthrealm. If not, cool pic brah.
hes a really really bad player is the answer

not a new player, thats something different

a BAD player
 

buyacushun

Normalize grab immunity.
I think the stupidest thing about chun li is slide into v trigger, and that her v trigger only trickles down. Hers and Necalli are the only ones that get a property changes and dont get "used up".
 

buyacushun

Normalize grab immunity.
kens? Lauras?
I forgot about them. Put that for their stupid list too. Guess I shouldn't post and play 2k

EDIT: Just finished 2k so let me out more thought into this. I don't know exactly how Laura works. So I wouldn't throw her in the list just yet. But since I was thinking about changing Bison's trigger to chunk whenever he chains specials or uses the stomp since that move really changes. That capcom just gives everyone slight tweaks like that if necessary. So chun's would chunk a bit if a normal touches you. Gives ken a decrease when he uses specials like ryu's triggered fireballs.

Does ryu DP use up trigger too?

F.A.N.G. Doesn't change his moves during trigger.

I'd prefer if they made other characters triggers rock for longer. Bison gets slow trickle. Ibuki and Zangief just have set uses no time limit. Stuff like that.
 
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B. Shazzy

NRS shill #42069
That's always been in SF lmfao...

You can DP it and Delay tech.. Why are you complaining about anti airs lol?

And what's this about him being "indirectly aimed at" what was the quote? and by who lol
Jumping is straight up a privilege not a right.. You have no reason to be jumping unless you're 100% sure they are throwing a fireball or a really Slow recovery normal like Ken's RH etc.

Complaining about jab anti airs is like basically saying "I have zero ground game and can't play footsies"

Where did you come from and what are you even talking about? Go back and catch up

What is it with you guys and terrible arguments as if jab aa hitboxes reduced for a few characters means I want a jumpfest? You're a bum if you think jab aas are neccesary to antiair in the first place anyway.

Cool, you used an opinion of a good player to "validate" and say what you think of my play without actually directly saying it. You're very, very clever, bro. :rolleyes:

I said nothing about our matches at all until you started trying to troll and shit talk me shortly after playing that set with me, after pretty much having never said a word to me in these forums. Funny how you try this dumb bullshit and basically act like you're sweet shit in this forum because you can put up short videos of you doing whatever.

It's actually pretty annoying, considering right after the matches, I brushed everything off completely and was never actually going to talk shit about them, and you've just been throwing shade the entire time ever since.

And you wanna use the opinions of good players to make your argument? Valle, a RASHID and JURI user, has *gasp* the same opinion I do on AA jabs. See how easy it is to namedrop to validate shit? Stop, dude.

Now it makes sense why people get tired of you. Much shitpost. Wow.
One or two guys you can find don't outweigh the community and Valle's very old-school mentality, he's not exaclty one to complain about anything in this game in the first place nor does he have the results of players in this game who know jab aas is for bums.

I don't have to use top players to validate anything. I'm just showing you that you'r on the wrong side of the argument when the majority agrees that they need to be toned down.

I actually prefer cross under jab into cr lk cr lp lets me start the combo with a low and can confirm into a hp dp or cr mp xx hadoken to stay safe. Also sets up multiple tick throw opportunities and shimmys. St mp into st mp is a good frame trap there but I like the extra options. Gotta mix it up though so it's usable, as is st jab or b hk.

Also another cool one I've been messing around with if I can get people to start teching is dash under back dash st hp xx trigger/CA. Pretty funny.
You know I just watched 30 minutes of recent gameplay from, no offense, infinitely better Ryus that include Tokido, Daigo, and Jyobin. Guess how many times they jab aaed? Zero times. They didn't even try it.

If jab aas are the optimal, deliberate choice and not just used 90% of the time as a crutch for lazy people with trash aa skills, someone should let these poor top players know how to play the game huh?
 
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LionHeart

Whisper within a sigh
You know I just watched 30 minutes of recent gameplay from, no offense, infinitely better Ryus that include Tokido, Daigo, and Jyobin. Guess how many times they jab aaed? Zero times.

If jab aas are the optimal, deliberate choice and not just used 90% of the time as a crutch for lazy people with trash aa skills , someone should let these poor top players know how to play the game huh?
IIRC, Gamerbee also doesn't use Necalli's jab AA. He always uses his "slow AF DP" for the job.
 

B. Shazzy

NRS shill #42069
IIRC, Gamerbee also doesn't use Necalli's jab AA. He always uses his "slow AF DP" for the job.
Wow, what is Gamerbee thinking? He should really be taking notes from these online gold and platinum Necallis on how to play the game, maybe then he'll acutally win something.

I think Haitini is the same way too.

Oh I almost forgot. Here's your breakfast Lionbae, look what happens to people who jab aa lul :cool:

 

RM AtK!

aka - RM_AtK !
Where did you come from and what are you even talking about? Go back and catch up

What is it with you guys and terrible arguments as if jab aa hitboxes reduced for a few characters means I want a jumpfest? You're a bum if you think jab aas are neccesary to antiair in the first place anyway.



One or two guys you can find don't outweigh the community and Valle's very old-school mentality, he's not exaclty one to complain about anything in this game in the first place nor does he have the results of players in this game who know jab aas is for bums.

I don't have to use top players to validate anything. I'm just showing you that you'r on the wrong side of the argument when the majority agrees that they need to be toned down.



You know I just watched 30 minutes of recent gameplay from, no offense, infinitely better Ryus that include Tokido, Daigo, and Jyobin. Guess how many times they jab aaed? Zero times. They didn't even try it.

If jab aas are the optimal, deliberate choice and not just used 90% of the time as a crutch for lazy people with trash aa skills, someone should let these poor top players know how to play the game huh?
I'm talkin aout jab aa crossover for the first thing. Also why are you trying to pretend Jab aaing is some scrub mechanic lmao. it's been in Like every SF. Majority of SFV newcomers are mad about it cuz have to jump.
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
Where did you come from and what are you even talking about? Go back and catch up

What is it with you guys and terrible arguments as if jab aa hitboxes reduced for a few characters means I want a jumpfest? You're a bum if you think jab aas are neccesary to antiair in the first place anyway.



One or two guys you can find don't outweigh the community and Valle's very old-school mentality, he's not exaclty one to complain about anything in this game in the first place nor does he have the results of players in this game who know jab aas is for bums.

I don't have to use top players to validate anything. I'm just showing you that you'r on the wrong side of the argument when the majority agrees that they need to be toned down.



You know I just watched 30 minutes of recent gameplay from, no offense, infinitely better Ryus that include Tokido, Daigo, and Jyobin. Guess how many times they jab aaed? Zero times. They didn't even try it.

If jab aas are the optimal, deliberate choice and not just used 90% of the time as a crutch for lazy people with trash aa skills, someone should let these poor top players know how to play the game huh?
Even though you tried to use Rico as an example, who hasn't even done shit himself in the game? And a whole community could have an opinion about something and turn out to be wrong. So spare me the whole "community thinks this, so you're wrong" line. ESPECIALLY when the opinion at hand is extremely contradictory given that they hate how "good" jumping is in general.
 
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B. Shazzy

NRS shill #42069
Even though you tried to use Rico as an example, who hasn't even done shit himself?
He literally stopped playing the game before Alex came out. What's Valle's excuse?


And by the majority I don't even mean more top players. I mean the poll they conducted from the community.
I'm talkin aout jab aa crossover for the first thing. Also why are you trying to pretend Jab aaing is some scrub mechanic lmao. it's been in Like every SF. Majority of SFV newcomers are mad about it cuz have to jump.
We're not talking about jab aas in the same situations. I don't care if some guy forward jumps in your face and you feel like jab aaing the crossover. I'm talking characters beating deep crossups jumps with aa jabs, where the hitbox is literally like a force field around them
 
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THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
He literally stopped playing the game before Alex came out. What's Valle's excuse?


We're not talking about jab aas in the same situations. I don't care if some guy forward jumps in your face and you feel like jab aaing the crossover. I'm talking characters beating deep crossups jumps with aa jabs, where the hitbox is literally like a force field around them
That's cute. What did he do then? Nothing? Okay.
 

B. Shazzy

NRS shill #42069
Guile: upper-mid tier
Alex: lower-mid tier
Balrog: lower-mid tier
Ibuki: low tier
Juri: probably lower-mid tier

I think it all relates to their ultra conservative approach to DLC and character adjustments due to CPT. They want to make sure they don't ruin the tour by unleashing some broken DLC that flubs the results of one event, resulting in a free invite for somebody that didn't earn it.

I think Urien will be decent though. He seems to actually have some zoning and some really good buttons, which should keep him competitive in a lot of matchups. This is all speculation of course.
Is ibuki really low tier? And I think guile is underrated
Guile isn't any better than like Fang tier. his style of play can just be a newbie killer which is why he can seem stronger compared to the other dlc
 
Guile isn't any better than like Fang tier. his style of play can just be a newbie killer which is why he can seem stronger compared to the other dlc
Guile is way better than fang, he has better zoning, and can actually get dmg. You might think he sucks because you're terrible with him and just go for the loop(which you dropped every time when we played, much different from your "highlights) but guile isn't bad. He's not the best character in the game, but he's definitely mid tier at worst.
 

@MylesWright_

I'll be back 3ing
Guile definitely isn't as bad as Juri, very few are

In the last couple of weeks people have been overrating Guile though because they think he beats Chun-Li. As if Capcom would ever allow such blasphemy