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MKXL Balance Patch Confirmed (UPDATED)

just_2swift

MK1 is the best MK period.
Fix buzz saw hit frames on up hat anti air so I can consistently combo off of the read instead of commiting to spending a bar for the same dmg for no bar

Make s3 a combo filler somehow right now its kinda useless.

Faster s1

F3 or f34 to be +2

Make f4 safe
I know it use to launch which is why I understand it needed to be unsafe but I doesn't anymore.
 

MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
Whatever love Cyber may receive is well loved.
actually i wouldn't mind seeing cybernetic getting an Overhead, honestly it couldn't hurt. doesn't even have to launch, id say make it a HKD or a Splat and that variation could rock. plain fact being, this Meta the whole core of the game is 50/50/s and Apex didn't even ask for that, he said give a character an OH that don't even launch. compared to quick oh to lows and Mixups to mixups, id say its a fair request. and cool thing about it is, anyone who uses him could simply not use it if they don,t like it but it would honestly only be a conditioning tool to make them start blocking high. Its either that or give him some plus 2 on block strings or something.
 

xMEECH

Dyslexic
actually i wouldn't mind seeing cybernetic getting an Overhead, honestly it couldn't hurt. doesn't even have to launch, id say make it a HKD or a Splat and that variation could rock. plain fact being, this Meta the whole core of the game is 50/50/s and Apex didn't even ask for that, he said give a character an OH that don't even launch. compared to quick oh to lows and Mixups to mixups, id say its a fair request. and cool thing about it is, anyone who uses him could simply not use it if they don,t like it but it would honestly only be a conditioning tool to make them start blocking high. Its either that or give him some plus 2 on block strings or something.
Cybernetic already has a "splat" overhead and +2 staggers. IAKB is the fastest overhead in the game and S2 is +2.
 

trufenix

bye felicia
Cybernetic already has a "splat" overhead and +2 staggers. IAKB is the fastest overhead in the game and S2 is +2.
They don't want an overhead that doesn't launch, they want a free no recourse overhead like "everyone else" in the game and then throw that "doesn't launch" on there because that's where the move becomes unreasonable.
 

Apex Kano

Kano Commando main MKX
Cybernetic already has a "splat" overhead and +2 staggers. IAKB is the fastest overhead in the game and S2 is +2.
The air Ball puts you at a hugh disadvantage if guess wrong. It's a major risk unlike others quick overheads. Also, Kano back 1 used to be +2 on release of game(and I loved the hate it brought). Then nerf to -2, then nerfed again to -6 and back 1,3 became -2. So his +staggers can be noticed due to the pattern it can contain.
 

Apex Kano

Kano Commando main MKX
Yeah it is, it's still a stupidly fast OH move which compliments his completely safe, and hit confirmable low.

The last thing this game needs is more safe 50/50s.
I'm not asking for a combo-able OH. Just a hard knockdown OH. This will not break Cyber Kano, but will stop others just blocking low the whole time when he is close.
 

Carl

Noob
Fix buzz saw hit frames on up hat anti air so I can consistently combo off of the read instead of commiting to spending a bar for the same dmg for no bar

Make s3 a combo filler somehow right now its kinda useless.

Faster s1

F3 or f34 to be +2

Make f4 safe
I know it use to launch which is why I understand it needed to be unsafe but I doesn't anymore.
Dont forget the hats taking ten years to return when they are jumped.
 

MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
They don't want an overhead that doesn't launch, they want a free no recourse overhead like "everyone else" in the game and then throw that "doesn't launch" on there because that's where the move becomes unreasonable.
noone wants an unreasonable OH lol, Cybers just want what everyone else in the game takes for granted, damn near the whole cast has Safe Overhead's that launch, and you ask for Kano Cyber to have an Overhead that doesnt even launch, and can be made safe and your made out to be the bad guy, its not like Reptile isn't running around using a +1 on block OH thats mad Good with senergy with D3 and other lows.

Like i said, Apex just wants an Overhead for A variation that has no OH normal, didn't even ask for it to launch, said it could be either HKD/SPlat or just regular knockdown. just wants it to be capable of being safe. hell make it unsafe, his laser could make it safe.
Just give him an overhead.

Noone should even come close to pretend the rest of the cast don't have that plus Damn near everything else.


Cybernetic getting an overhead will hurt nobody, guess why, cuz there are 90 variations with better tools than a OH that leads into nothing. give the damn variation something and quit trying to shut down Cyber because you hate the CT matchup which has Zero in common with Cybernetic.


@Apex Kano
if they don't agree with that its 100% pure salt. thats the only reason they would be against KAno Cybernetic getting whats only fair. its actually diumb that others fight to keep a variation garbage. or do there best to keep them down just because of one variation that everyone is hating on.

At this point id say nerf CT and get it over with then give the other two what they deserve buffs, so this BS hatred towards a fair character will be done with(talking about Commando and Cybernetic) which both are honestly lacking.


Bottom line Cybernetic doesnt use OH Roll like you said he does. that would be idiotic to do , its beyond punishable.

We need an Overhead for conditioning purposes not to throw out every once in a while. All kanos combos come from the Lows in Cybernetic.
 
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MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
I personally am not a fan of guests just cuz there's plenty of MK characters we could have reimagned instead of them.
100% id rather have Noob and others in the game instead of Guest characters. me personally miss all my childhood characters i played with on MK2/MK3/UMK3. if KP3 comes out i hope they skip the Guest characters and stick to MK Characters. it would be so much cooler and gineune to the game to bring back Frost, Noob, Nightwolf, Sindel and maybe Fujin(never played with him) but think it could be cool, just the idea of another God along side Raiden. just need some Tag Kombat and we are peachy.
 

Apex Kano

Kano Commando main MKX
Yeah it is, it's still a stupidly fast OH move which compliments his completely safe, and hit confirmable low.

The last thing this game needs is more safe 50/50s.
I'm not asking for a combo-able OH. Just a hard knockdown OH. This will not break Cyber Kano, but will stop others just blocking low the whole time when he is close.
noone wants an unreasonable OH lol, Cybers just want what everyone else in the game takes for granted, damn near the whole cast has Safe Overhead's that launch, and you ask for Kano Cyber to have an Overhead that doesnt even launch, and can be made safe and your made out to be the bad guy, its not like Reptile isn't running around using a +1 on block OH thats mad Good with senergy with D3 and other lows.

Like i said, Apex just wants an Overhead for A variation that has no OH normal, didn't even ask for it to launch, said it could be either HKD/SPlat or just regular knockdown. just wants it to be capable of being safe. hell make it unsafe, his laser could make it safe.
Just give him an overhead.

Noone should even come close to pretend the rest of the cast don't have that plus Damn near everything else.


Cybernetic getting an overhead will hurt nobody, guess why, cuz there are 90 variations with better tools than a OH that leads into nothing. give the damn variation something and quit trying to shut down Cyber because you hate the CT matchup which has Zero in common with Cybernetic.


@Apex Kano
if they don't agree with that its 100% pure salt. thats the only reason they would be against KAno Cybernetic getting whats only fair. its actually diumb that others fight to keep a variation garbage. or do there best to keep them down just because of one variation that everyone is hating on.

At this point id say nerf CT and get it over with then give the other two what they deserve buffs, so this BS hatred towards a fair character will be done with(talking about Commando and Cybernetic) which both are honestly lacking.


Bottom line Cybernetic doesnt use OH Roll like you said he does. that would be idiotic to do , its beyond punishable.

We need an Overhead for conditioning purposes not to throw out every once in a while. All kanos combos come from the Lows in Cybernetic.
First off..his eye lasers aren't something you just wanna throw out. It is punishable if the oppenent know it is. Visually it looks like it stuns. Now a nice buff would be a -4 on laser so I can use it as a safe ender.

Everyone also do want more damage on knives. But giving him a low special projectile like a bomb roll (similar to Erron Black) would be nice. After all, his descriptions says bomb attacks.
 

trufenix

bye felicia
I personally am not a fan of guests just cuz there's plenty of MK characters we could have reimagned instead of them.
If there was any (literally any) evidence that adding a guest somehow subtracts an in universe character I would be on board but that's not even remotely how it works.
 

trufenix

bye felicia
Just buff fisticuffs. Been playing 15 months with garbage.
Come on man, Fisticuffs is seriously not that bad. Worse than top tier, worse than a lot of mid tier, worse than the other johnnys but its not like picking fisticuffs just removes your block button.
 

ismael4790

Stay focused or get Caged
Come on man, Fisticuffs is seriously not that bad. Worse than top tier, worse than a lot of mid tier, worse than the other johnnys but its not like picking fisticuffs just removes your block button.
He's ultra honest which in this game means he's awful. People like to say how bad kitana and kenshi are, which is true, but he struggles at least the same at opening up the opponent. His distinctive string randomly fails to work. He has lots of flaws.

Try him if you have curiosity and you will see. The idea of the variation is cool though. Cool enough to keep me playing him in his current state. Best brutality in the game, also. But it sucks to see his potential wasted.
 

trufenix

bye felicia
well i guess thats your opinion, i feel he would do alot better with it, and i don't see how it could hurt. obviously not broken, and its not sking for anything compared the the rest of the cast.
Dude, everyone would be better with a safe overhead. Everyone in the game. So you don't want your already solid character to rocket to alien status, you're still asking for an unnecessary buff.
 

MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
Dude, everyone would be better with a safe overhead. Everyone in the game. So you don't want your already solid character to rocket to alien status, you're still asking for an unnecessary buff.
are you serious, an overhead that leads to nothing in your opinion rockets Cybernetic to alien Status... lol WTF?

This Variation is not even in the same world as Alien and that small change couldnt even get himn to win that matchup.lol it would help alot though.


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Tell you what Ask the original Kano mains what it feels like to use Cybernetic against most of the cast, No overhead, while they are blocking all your lows, and coming back with BS pressure, OH to lows and Lows to overheads that jail into guess what more overheads, or Tekadas EX kuni pressure and guess game. then look at Cyber and see if you actually believe that he is even close to broken like Alien?????