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A faster d4 would be nice. Rip.
A faster d4 would be nice. Rip.
He has moves that look like they don't cancel into anything like s3, f4, d4, if they increased the speed slightly these become big tools that provoke the player to hit a button afterward which is good for LF. Essentially everything he needs is there... just lacks good frames.
Leatherface has 50/50's across all three variations. He has a low and overhead, albeit slow in Killer and Pretty Lady.
I only said that as a solution to introducing a 50/50, allowing a character to get 38%+ more gimics from a 50/ 50 is absurd. So if BS1 has to be kept talk of 50/50 has to go, he doesn't have 1 for a reason. I agree with more hit advantage for some pokes d4 in particular. F1 being a mid Oh lord that sting is a bully string already its only weakness being that the first part is a high. it has a lot of range you can't jump( back ,forward, up) or back step f12 at poke range.
What? Killer already has 50/50 starters and specials.
He doesn't you can see that over head coming a mile away. Only time I get caught is when I'm trying to contest it with a poke.
Simply.... for respect Characters with no respect have a hard time winning. It's that simple. You main characters in Takeda Mileena and Cassie who have advancing mids and great pokes. You do not know what it's like to get a turn and it be immediately taken away. It's like you been hit with 10 Skip cards in Uno as your opponent slowly smokes a cigarette on your life bar. It's not fair, man.
Well it may be slow but it's still an overhead starter. B1 and F2 are both very slow but are still overhead. You might catch someone off-guard once in a while but not often I admit.
This is why it's not a 50/50. No guessing is involved. Low is the only opener that's fast enough and the OH is reactable. If LF had better tools, he could make his opponent forget about the OH and sneak it in, but that is just not the case at this point.
There may be no guessing involved, but it is an overhead. He doesn't need super quick 50/50's. If he did, mixed in with Beserker 2 ex he would be way too strong lol.
Ur right leatherface isn't a pressure character that's why I'm asking for bs1 to be +2. Jax do f21 'raw' and get 40 percent, doesn't mean anything. +2 would hardly be make leatheface OP. He sucks right now
You're right, but I think his overhead could at least be 25f, not 27. Scorpions overhead is reactable at 25f but can still catch you off guard. I think it's fair at 25f. Without an overhead he essentially needs to build meter in order to do damage unless he gets a whiff punish or punishes a move. Does he need a faster overhead? No, but he will need a mid to gain respect and to build meter. He needs better frames on some moves in order to do this. Without meter LF is useless. There's no plan B option with him. Killer is an intimidating pressure variation... until u learn the matchup. Without these tweaks he will continue to suffer.
He doesn't suck. BS1 has pushback anyway so it's not -8, only Reptile can punish it on block. If it was Plus 2, he would be stupidly good because you can just do d3 into bs1 over and over lol.
In all seriousness, what would a 2f increase do anyway. The speed is fine, because of it's massive range. Like @CrazyFingers said, if you want 50/50's, just play Butcher.
Lol not much, I was just throwing it out there. He does need help though. Some people keep calling LF good, but when I see him win it's because his opponent plays the matchup wrong. There's just certain basics u must learn that people don't do. Against LF u don't jump back or block high at the start of a move. Once players learn this matchup he has a tough time winning. This could be because other characters need nerfs and have 50/50s. I think this is primarily why LF loses a lot.
He might not be 'great' but he's good. He isn't say pre-XL Jason. He has amazing tools, damage ect. He gets bullied a lot by pressure characters, which just so happens to be the top 10 at the moment excels at just that. Butcher actually does somewhat well against the top tiers because of the faster armour at his disposal.
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8 frame advancing mid! 8 frame advancing mid that cannot be whiff punished .
Wow! Didn't not know it was neutral on hit, thats silly lol
Yeah tried to think of the reasoning behind it, no idea why they did that. Doesn't guarantee anything so your opponent can easily just armour after.