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I'm looking forward to someone daring to tech a throw against Ibuki with V-trigger in tournament and just dying
I haven't been able to play the update yet and I'm curious to know, is teching a throw against ibuki with v trigger in the corner a win-win for ibuki? If so why even bother teching? What about neutral jumping the bomb set up?
 

@MylesWright_

I'll be back 3ing
I haven't been able to play the update yet and I'm curious to know, is teching a throw against ibuki with v trigger in the corner a win-win for ibuki? If so why even bother teching? What about neutral jumping the bomb set up?
Ibuki has an answer for everything you might do and then some more. It's some Sub-Zero ice clone corner crap because the bomb will otg her throw, if you tech the bomb will just leave you in block-stun and she'll run back in. Jumping out is the same as not blocking to me
 

buyacushun

Normalize grab immunity.
I haven't been able to play the update yet and I'm curious to know, is teching a throw against ibuki with v trigger in the corner a win-win for ibuki? If so why even bother teching? What about neutral jumping the bomb set up?
Ibuki has an answer for everything you might do and then some more. It's some Sub-Zero ice clone corner crap because the bomb will otg her throw, if you tech the bomb will just leave you in block-stun and she'll run back in. Jumping out is the same as not blocking to me
900 health character can do the cheap stuff every once in a while if you're in the corner. Welcome to Street Fighter. Enjoy your stay. Notice: we're fresh out of demon flips. But we'll be restocking on tiger shot mazes.
 

buyacushun

Normalize grab immunity.
just started playing the story, its awesome and necalli is so scary O_O lol
ended up @ the Urien, Juri stage before going to sleep and both characters feel great gameplay wise
I just finished the hard mode!

Li joe showed off basically some 3s stuff with Urien. I doubt he has an unblockable setup and I think the different wake up timings mess with it a bit but the concept looked nasty.

Juri seems cool but I'm hoping she gets changes move wise upon release.
 

FL Rushdown

Champion
Ibuki has an answer for everything you might do and then some more. It's some Sub-Zero ice clone corner crap because the bomb will otg her throw, if you tech the bomb will just leave you in block-stun and she'll run back in. Jumping out is the same as not blocking to me
pretty funny that you're going to cry about ibukis bomb setups when it's a 3 bar vtrigger on a 900 hp character. If she loses that much hp to get you into the corner and start doing work her mixups have to be pretty damn strong. Most characters can just save ca and use it in the combo that'd give her trigger and just kill her before she even has a chance to use it. Also her neutral is pretty whack.
 

buyacushun

Normalize grab immunity.
honestly I think Ibuki is gonna be kinda weak. I'd be willing to bet there will be 0 ibukis top 8 at Evo.
Why? She seems to have most of her buttons from 4 and didn't she have good neutral in 4? I figured we know she can definitely mount an offensive, and she can play neutral (hoping b+MP is still a godly anti air), as long as your careful cause she's 900 I'd assume she's not weak.
 

@MylesWright_

I'll be back 3ing
pretty funny that you're going to cry about ibukis bomb setups when it's a 3 bar vtrigger on a 900 hp character. If she loses that much hp to get you into the corner and start doing work her mixups have to be pretty damn strong. Most characters can just save ca and use it in the combo that'd give her trigger and just kill her before she even has a chance to use it. Also her neutral is pretty whack.
Why would I be crying about Ibuki set-ups when I'm using Ibuki?

Juri seems cool but I'm hoping she gets changes move wise upon release.
I don't think she is getting anything that doesn't promote knocking someone down and throw bait/meatying them to death. It isn't the SFV way
 

FL Rushdown

Champion
Why? She seems to have most of her buttons from 4 and didn't she have good neutral in 4? I figured we know she can definitely mount an offensive, and she can play neutral (hoping b+MP is still a godly anti air), as long as your careful cause she's 900 I'd assume she's not weak.
her neutral in 4 was her tsumuji which she doesn't have now, and her ex neckbreaker which stopped the fireball game once she had meter. She still seems cool but without the ability to cancel her crappy normals into tsumuji to be safe or just throw it out for ranged pressure she seems to be weaker.
 

B. Shazzy

NRS shill #42069
I haven't been able to play the update yet and I'm curious to know, is teching a throw against ibuki with v trigger in the corner a win-win for ibuki? If so why even bother teching? What about neutral jumping the bomb set up?
There's invincibility frames until your recover ffrom the throw tech animation unless you mean something else
 

buyacushun

Normalize grab immunity.
I don't think she is getting anything that doesn't promote knocking someone down and throw bait/meatying them to death. It isn't the SFV way
I doubt that. Seeing Sagat is most likely next. Unless you also believe him to be a throw bait/meatying character. Plus ryu, Chun, birdie, Ken (yes ken. I'll accept that one has my own personal opinion. . . For now), F.A.N.G., Guile, Nash, Karin, Bison, Dhalsim, Vega(iffy on him, but I don't see how not) characters I'm sure a majority would say win through smart neutral. Sure they can throw/meaty you on wakeup but everyone can since ST.

her neutral in 4 was her tsumuji which she doesn't have now, and her ex neckbreaker which stopped the fireball game once she had meter. She still seems cool but without the ability to cancel her crappy normals into tsumuji to be safe or just throw it out for ranged pressure she seems to be weaker.
Her buttons are crappy?!?!
Maybe that's what the kunai is partly for? I remember on WSO they were providing some nice range for her. You know any on block frame data for the kunai?

As for fireball game they made that free v-meter and with 3 stocks that means either bombs or 3 substitution justus.

I think a smart resourceful player would shine with her.

There's invincibility frames until your recover ffrom the throw tech animation unless you mean something else
I figured they meant
*tech throw*
*be too scared to move/press buttons because of bomb timing*
Since she got 3 of them
 

bdizzle2700

gotta stay sharp!
just started playing the story, its awesome and necalli is so scary O_O lol
ended up @ the Urien, Juri stage before going to sleep and both characters feel great gameplay wise
I like the part where cammy pulls out a mcdonalds hamburger sized box from her...magic satchel? Her bum. I was like wuut thhee lol. Where did she have that lololol
 
I see mixed opinions on Ibuki, which tells me how good or bad she can be will be determined by player skill and time will tell. This is awesome guys.
 

FL Rushdown

Champion
I see mixed opinions on Ibuki, which tells me how good or bad she can be will be determined by player skill and time will tell. This is awesome guys.
my money is on mid tier but towards the bottom, that depends on wether or not something ridiculous is found. Right now all of her shenanigans seem kinda gimmicky and like they'll be pretty tough to pull off on someone familiar with the matchup.
 

FL Rushdown

Champion
Day 1 Ibuki tech I've found.seems to work on 3/4/5 frame wakeup reversals. Haven't tested it on all of them yet though.

After a raida, sweep or any dp in the corner you can whiff jab into medium command dash and it'll make normals/techs/dps come out on the wrong side so you can punish/pressure. Doesn't seem to work on Ryu though since his jab and lk seem to hit behind him like they do vs Nash sometimes. This only works on quick rise but if they don't quick rise you have options I'm still looking for a good universal one though.

Edit: disclaimer works on all raidas, non cc sweeps, and any non ex dp. For ex dp whiff lk.
 
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@MylesWright_

I'll be back 3ing
I doubt that. Seeing Sagat is most likely next. Unless you also believe him to be a throw bait/meatying character. Plus ryu, Chun, birdie, Ken (yes ken. I'll accept that one has my own personal opinion. . . For now), F.A.N.G., Guile, Nash, Karin, Bison, Dhalsim, Vega(iffy on him, but I don't see how not) characters I'm sure a majority would say win through smart neutral. Sure they can throw/meaty you on wakeup but everyone can since ST.
It will be an offensive anti-zoning Sagat that pressures with tiger knees. The only projectile he'll have is his CA

Except F.A.N.G and Dhalsim I don't think of any of them having a smart neutral. Throw a fireball and move behind it, randomly cover space through unseeable means or both


Day 1 Ibuki tech I've found.seems to work on 3/4/5 frame wakeup reversals. Haven't tested it on all of them yet though.

After a lp or mp raida or a sweep in the corner you can whiff jab into medium command dash and it'll make normals/techs/dps come out on the wrong side so you can punish/pressure. Doesn't seem to work on Ryu though since his jab and lk seem to hit behind him like they do vs Nash sometimes. This only works on quick rise but if they don't quick rise you have options I'm still looking for a good universal one though.
I thought everything was gimmicks...
 

FL Rushdown

Champion
It is gimmicky lol. Also seems to work midscreen if you whiff lk after a dp. Seems pretty tight on the timing though, might be a two frame window.

Edit: we're on the same side here Myles I'm trying to main her too. Relax and gimme yo tech.

You can also jab(on block) into MK dash and it'll make reversal dps/normals/throws whiff.
 
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