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countrypistol

Kombatant
Yeah it is just heavy punch, I think Mika can slide that on reaction (Only upper body invincible, not sure when armor starts but it is not instant) The reason I say the HP range is because all she can do in the neutral from that distance is slide. I think Gief can do ok if he can keep her at that range.
Armour starts on third frame
 

FL Rushdown

Champion
You've said Ken and Necalli are mid-tier, F.A.N.G is fine and now this..
yeah and I stand by those sayings. Ken and Necalli aren't in my top 5(Ryu,chun,Nash,karin and vega are definitively better characters and there are a few that are equal to him(sim,bison,birdie,cammy etc etc.). Fang is fine because honestly I don't think there's any unusable characters in this game(the only possible exception being maybe gief).
And yes I think both wake up buttons and reversals are dangerous and kinda bad.
 

buyacushun

Normalize grab immunity.
yeah and I stand by those sayings. Ken and Necalli aren't in my top 5(Ryu,chun,Nash, and vega are definitively better characters and there are a few that are equal to him(sim,bison,birdie,cammy etc etc.). Fang is fine because honestly I don't think there's any unusable characters in this game(the only possible exception being maybe gief).
And yes I think both wake up buttons and reversals are dangerous and kinda bad.
Why Vega so high up? (I'm assuming he's either top 5 or top 8.)
 

FL Rushdown

Champion
Why Vega so high up? (I'm assuming he's either top 5 or top 8.)
i put him at 5 on my personal list but I'm flexible. He's got the best walk speed in the game, a 3 frame button, a command grab, an unreactable slide, imo the best v reversal in the game(tied with cammys), solid pokes, multiple long range buttons that are +2 in clawless form, easy super/v trigger confirms, and decent dmg. His anti airs are pretty weak but that's really his only weakness. I think he's a very very solid character.
 

Aramonde

Kombatant
You still on?
Yeah i raged out eariler but i'd be down to play someone from tym.

Well this is coming from a Guile main which has to be one of if not his worst matchup.

1- Cant full screen zone even with v-skill. He either throws fireballs or parries byour booms.

2- His fucking sweep! This fucking thing beats out everything or punishes everything is so fucking quick!

3- The Ryu army. Im so fucking tired of playing against this asshole!
 

FL Rushdown

Champion
Yeah i raged out eariler but i'd be down to play someone from tym.



Well this is coming from a Guile main which has to be one of if not his worst matchup.

1- Cant full screen zone even with v-skill. He either throws fireballs or parries byour booms.

2- His fucking sweep! This fucking thing beats out everything or punishes everything is so fucking quick!

3- The Ryu army. Im so fucking tired of playing against this asshole!
0.ryu is pretty even with guile certainly not his worst matchup.

1. Guile should beat Ryu full screen with projectiles (all of his booms have faster startup by at least 3 frames and better recovery by at least 5) as long as he uses ex and vskill properly. if he stops to parry throw a slow boom and follow it in, if he parrys you can counter if he jumps you should be able to anti air, if he blocks you get to pressure, . If he starts using tatsus bait one and full combo punish, if he dps through it you can crush counter punish if you read it.(the risk reward is in your favor at all times from long range and when you're behind a slow boom).

2. His sweep has 1 frame faster startup than yours and pretty similar range, it's also super punishable(flash kick into super works from max distance, or pretty much any combo from closer)

3. So Ryu should be your most knowledgable matchup then.
 
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buyacushun

Normalize grab immunity.
Anyone play Vega or know someone who does? I honestly have no clue how to fight that character. Everyone else I have at least a vague idea.
 

Aramonde

Kombatant
@bdizzle2700 GG's 25-1. Bdizzle i always said you were godlike but you didn't use the character you said you would use so..... XD

Nah but goodgames. Some thoughts and questions

*sees gold rank and 4000LP* OH FUCK! O_O

*Later picks Bison* SON OF A BITCH! NOT BISON!

1- Who the fuck plays Birdie lol. You like the third or forth Birdie i've ever played against. I had no idea what he even does lol.

2- What do i do when you got me in the corner? Everything i did got beat.

And those times when i jumped and did HP or MK were supposed to be booms or FK.

Enjoy that easy fight money you earned ;)
 

LionHeart

Whisper within a sigh
FYI @JJvercetti and @buyacushun , Mika can grab Gief out of st.HP and V-Skill with passion press. Even if she does it after HP has been released, the actives won't come out and he'll get thrown to the ropes.
IMO this MU is in Mika's favor because Gief can't use either of these moves in neutral or else he gets thrown into the blender. On the other hand, Gief renders Mika's charged HK useless (he can flex through it and punish).

Here's the thing, Mika doesn't have to use charged HK to get in and once in, she doesn't have to use command throws at all. Her combos hurt and lead into her loop.

Gief is helpless in this MU too, IMO...
 

bdizzle2700

gotta stay sharp!
@bdizzle2700 GG's 25-1. Bdizzle i always said you were godlike but you didn't use the character you said you would use so..... XD

Nah but goodgames. Some thoughts and questions

*sees gold rank and 4000LP* OH FUCK! O_O

*Later picks Bison* SON OF A BITCH! NOT BISON!

1- Who the fuck plays Birdie lol. You like the third or forth Birdie i've ever played against. I had no idea what he even does lol.

2- What do i do when you got me in the corner? Everything i did got beat.

And those times when i jumped and did HP or MK were supposed to be booms or

Enjoy that easy fight money you earned ;)
Ggs man lol but i told you i played birdie :( even though my bison is poopy lol. Idk who told you im godlike but they are a liar! Lol i just get lucky! Rank doesnt mean everything lol. It was a grind and i still gotta work up lol.

1- lol birdie is kewl. Like that mohawk is too good to pass up lol. Hes a footsie monster. Hes a like grappler hybrid.
2- you have to make a read like with everyone else lol. I can hk to try and get you to push a button and crush counter. I can grab or command grab. Or i can bait ex flash kick for an easy punish. So usually its better to be patient and look for the command grab lol.

I figured lol. Birdie has one of the best aa normals in the game. I was like idk why he keep jumping:( lol but you adapt well.) as for the f.(b.) mk, its good to throws those out sometimes. Keeps ppl in check and switches it up from always throwing booms and being predictable. I have a ton of birdo stuff my yt. You can get an idea of what he can do.
One thing i will say is make sure you do your best in punishing sweeps.
 

Aramonde

Kombatant
If anyone else wants to play i'll be playing for another hour so.

CFN and PSN are Aramonde

@bdizzle2700 No you are godlike son. I don't think you missed a single AA.

The reason i tried to jump out a lot is because nothing i did worked lol. cr.LP and cr.MK didn't work, flash kicked would get blocked, Boom would get hit out of. I didn't know what to do lol. Half the time when i did throw out FK's i regreted immediately after and said "NO! NO! WHY DO I KEEP DOING THAT YOU IDIOT FUCK ME!!!*

In the Bison matches i did notice F.MK was working so i did when coming in. Well if you need more fight money just let me know.

(Whats your YT channel name? Same as your user?)
 
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buyacushun

Normalize grab immunity.
FYI @JJvercetti and @buyacushun , Mika can grab Gief out of st.HP and V-Skill with passion press. Even if she does it after HP has been released, the actives won't come out and he'll get thrown to the ropes.
IMO this MU is in Mika's favor because Gief can't use either of these moves in neutral or else he gets thrown into the blender. On the other hand, Gief renders Mika's charged HK useless (he can flex through it and punish).

Here's the thing, Mika doesn't have to use charged HK to get in and once in, she doesn't have to use command throws at all. Her combos hurt and lead into her loop.

Gief is helpless in this MU too, IMO...
Thing is, if you're talking about passion press on reaction to f.HP or v-skill, he's got a bunch of other buttons he could press at that range. So I wouldn't say he shouldn't at least use f.HP sometimes, though v-skill is a more risky read. And Zangief definitely had the normals to make getting in a complete chore. Mika doesn't have some "in" she could just use. And to say Mika doesn't have to use command grabs is wrong when Zangief can punish f.HP with wakeup v-skill. Or even just block. There's still a whole mind game at play on wakeup. Just thinking that alone could lead you to eat 3 command grabs in a row.

No one be scared @bdizzle2700 rank. It's a hoax. It's only cause of online shenanigans and baby's first anti air.
 

LionHeart

Whisper within a sigh
Thing is, if you're talking about passion press on reaction to f.HP or v-skill, he's got a bunch of other buttons he could press at that range. So I wouldn't say he shouldn't at least use f.HP sometimes, though v-skill is a more risky read. And Zangief definitely had the normals to make getting in a complete chore. Mika doesn't have some "in" she could just use. And to say Mika doesn't have to use command grabs is wrong when Zangief can punish f.HP with wakeup v-skill. Or even just block. There's still a whole mind game at play on wakeup. Just thinking that alone could lead you to eat 3 command grabs in a row.

No one be scared @bdizzle2700 rank. It's a hoax. It's only cause of online shenanigans and baby's first anti air.
Off topic:
Wow, I have you on my Steam friends list. Did I give you an SFV beta code for beta 4, back then through reddit maybe?

LOL small world if it is so...