General/Other - Cyrax XL Cyrax Discussion Thread

[Hellbringer]

wanna play some sets?

do you play Cyrax?

i dropped him. add my gt

 

[BowsersDad]

My Psn id is : breastmilQ_94

 

[MadeOfMetal]

BF1, RC, DF2, F43, DF2, F43, DF2, 114 xx DD2, D2,

this missfires on me

as soon as i throw out a forth bomb thats a hover it missfires, i gave up.

i also have a weird thing happening with Tele combos, ill do something like

F21 net, DF2, RC D2, DF2, F43, DD2, 111, DF3, 111-Df4 + hold back, 4-dd3 into bait armor or HTB.

and sometimes cyrax gets stuck in negative frames, where i cant move till they hit the ground.

don't know whats happening, cuz i can do it in practice like 30 times in a row then magically it will start doing what i described above, and this happens online as well.

I'm on PS4 sorry man, if any of you are on PS4 as well you can add me. My psn id is the same as my name on here Rebourne07

nope just XB1 but maybe in the future.

I'm on PS4, but thank you for asking.

np would have been fun

Ps4 as well but I'll most likely add those of you soon who commented saying Ps4.
Sorry though man.

damn yep im only on XBox One

i dropped him. add my gt

I and @PrimBloodGhost just played with @STB Krizbe it was some fun sets. glad to get the Kung jin MU

ill add ya.

My Psn id is : breastmilQ_94

i only have XB1 sadly

 

[Apex Kano]

this missfires on me

as soon as i throw out a forth bomb thats a hover it missfires, i gave up.

i also have a weird thing happening with Tele combos, ill do something like

F21 net, DF2, RC D2, DF2, F43, DD2, 111, DF3, 111-Df4 + hold back, 4-dd3 into bait armor or HTB.

and sometimes cyrax gets stuck in negative frames, where i cant move till they hit the ground.

don't know whats happening, cuz i can do it in practice like 30 times in a row then magically it will start doing what i described above, and this happens online as well.






nope just XB1 but maybe in the future.


np would have been fun


damn yep im only on XBox One

I and @PrimBloodGhost just played with @STB Krizbe it was some fun sets. glad to get the Kung jin MU

ill add ya.


i only have XB1 sadly

Hey, did you get my tag into Kano forums? Go check it out dude. So hilarious these Kano bandwagon users

 

[MadeOfMetal]

Hey, did you get my tag into Kano forums? Go check it out dude. So hilarious these Kano bandwagon users

ill check it doesn't seem to have alerted me yet.

jus in case what thread was it, you can ccopy and past address and pm it to me?


btw im getting back on.

ready for some sets?

i say we get STB and CR in it and maybe Khaotic in it.

if anyone can help my cyrax and your Kano grow its those guys

 

[Apex Kano]

ill check it doesn't seem to have alerted me yet.

jus in case what thread was it, you can ccopy and past address and pm it to me?


btw im getting back on.

ready for some sets?

i say we get STB and CR in it and maybe Khaotic in it.

if anyone can help my cyrax and your Kano grow its those guys

testyourmight.com/threads/all-these-new-kano-players-coming-up-i-wonder-why.59856/page-2

 

[SOULWARRIOR 71K]

anyone have any good post patch match footage with cyrax?

I don't claim that my videos are good, just rather than Cyrax can still do some work when the opponent doesn't know the matchup:

SOULWARRIOR 71K (Triborg - Cyrax) vs. DsV Legion (Kano):

SOULWARRIOR 71K (Triborg - Cyrax) vs. c00kies7six (Bo Rai Cho):

SOULWARRIOR 71K (Triborg - Cyrax) vs. XxTOXICxREAPERx (Erron Black):

However, if the opponent does know the matchup, obviously these simple tricks don't work.

 

[MsMiharo]

does anyone wan't to Play some sets and or practice with me on Xbox. lets share some Cyrax tech and ideas?

@MsMiharo
@xxFalcon Loverxx
@John the Savage
@scarsunseen
@BowsersDad
@Rebourne07

I don't play cyrax and I'm on ps4 :/

 

[JDM]

So has anyone figured out a midscreen setup that works effectively? NJK mid bomb gets blown up by everything.

so does st.4 mid bomb

 

[MadeOfMetal]

So has anyone figured out a midscreen setup that works effectively? NJK mid bomb gets blown up by everything.

so does st.4 mid bomb

the true HTB he has will work, you can use B2 after a HKD to start it meterless then 4,4, 21, net, DD3, step forward, B2.


or you can use meter and start with, F21 or B1 into, EXDB1, RC, B2, 4-Net, DD3, step forward, B2 then whatever your heart desires.

should get you 55% with one more bar. around 45% with just the EX bussaw, they can't backdash, they can't jump out, and probably won't armor it, they have one frame to Block OH Low. and they can Xray it if they are able to in one frame, at that exact frame.

since cyrax damage was nerfed so hard this is his way of getting some decent damage for 2 bars.

when mileena and many others have 52-58% for one bar in corner, he gets almost nothing in the corner.

so he relies on setups for damage. and 2 bars to force them to take damage after risking himself with none hitconfirmable mixups that are not safe, and no way to make them safe.

his buzzsaw is -8 if he spends bar he can make his strings safe with EX buzzsaw.

his net is OMG punished.

and his normal bombs are -73 on launch acording to in game data.

his EX bombs are not Plus 8 as it states on block, and the normal bombs on block are not +18

they are around EX: -4/-7 and Normal bombs on block: +3/0

 

[JDM]

the true HTB he has will work, you can use B2 after a HKD to start it meterless then 4,4, 21, net, DD3, step forward, B2.


or you can use meter and start with, F21 or B1 into, EXDB1, RC, B2, 4-Net, DD3, step forward, B2 then whatever your heart desires.

should get you 55% with one more bar. around 45% with just the EX bussaw, they can't backdash, they can't jump out, and probably won't armor it, they have one frame to Block OH Low. and they can Xray it if they are able to in one frame, at that exact frame.

since cyrax damage was nerfed so hard this is his way of getting some decent damage for 2 bars.

when mileena and many others have 52-58% for one bar in corner, he gets almost nothing in the corner.

so he relies on setups for damage. and 2 bars to force them to take damage after risking himself with none hitconfirmable mixups that are not safe, and no way to make them safe.

his buzzsaw is -8 if he spends bar he can make his strings safe with EX buzzsaw.

his net is OMG punished.

and his normal bombs are -73 on launch acording to in game data.

his EX bombs are not Plus 8 as it states on block, and the normal bombs on block are not +18

they are around EX: -4/-7 and Normal bombs on block: +3/0

After what HKD? NJK? they can roll and backdash out of those setups. And how are you doing net after a b2 unblockable when there's a bomb?

The rest is random info I don't need to know. I simply asked if there's a setup anyone has found yet that is good midscreen off of a normal combo. NJK is trash and blown up by almost anything

 

[Sultani]

i gotta ask, people keep saying they are getting 4 hover bombs in one combo, and i missfire after the 3rd, i can get 3 hovers and 3 lows but not a 4th?

how are you doing it?


here is the swaggiest combos i have been doing recently, its not my top damage but its fun to do.

The way I am getting 4 hover bombs is because the limitation they put in works, but it doesn't count the bombs until they explode. So, the 4th bomb needs to come out before the 3rd one blows up. This is what I'm doing.

Any starter into net (BF1). From most, the pushback requires a run cancel into the first DF2. So this is the basic starter. B1 (overhead) net, RC DF2. B3 (low) net, RC DF2. F21 net, RC DF2. jip, 4 net (no RC needed), DF2.

After the first DF2, just do F43, DF2, F43, DD2, D2, DB2, DB1, 4 DB4. The DB2 if timed correctly will come out JUST before the DD2 blows up, allowing 4 bombs.

 

[xxFalcon Loverxx]

Why does no cyrax player do the armor breaking set-up? It's so good. I didn't know about it until today lol.

 

[JDM]

Why does no cyrax player do the armor breaking set-up? It's so good. I didn't know about it until today lol.

which is?

 

[xxFalcon Loverxx]

which is?

Here:

The video below is pre-patch but i've managed to find a post patch one that works off both overhead or low. Check my video above for post-patch.

 

[xxFalcon Loverxx]

@KingKhrystopher Please link the new updated combo thread in the OP.

 

[JDM]

Can't they get out of that by rolling/backdashing away like every other midscreen setup

Edit: nope. That's solid then. What about meterless? Anything midscreen?

 

[xxFalcon Loverxx]

Can't they get out of that by rolling/backdashing away like every other midscreen setup

Edit: nope. That's solid then. What about meterless? Anything midscreen?

That is midscreen. I don't have any meterless though. I'll be labbing it up more in the lab later.
It beats every single armor move in the game. (Except for goro, probably not goro)

 

[JDM]

yeah i meant meterless. I was using NJK mid bomb but it gets blown up so easily midscreen. It wasn't as bad when we had net after bomb cause we could cut the combo short and get a guaranteed HTB but now it really hurts.

 

[SOULWARRIOR 71K]

That is midscreen. I don't have any meterless though. I'll be labbing it up more in the lab later.
It beats every single armor move in the game. (Except for goro, probably not goro)

Since ex bombs hit mid, why couldn't the opponent simply block standing up as opposed to wasting armor to get out? Am I missing something here?

 

[xxFalcon Loverxx]

Since ex bombs hit mid, why couldn't the opponent simply block standing up as opposed to wasting armor to get out? Am I missing something here?

It armor breaks, if the opponent tries to armor. It breaks it. It can also guarantee a blockstring.

 

[JDM]

Since ex bombs hit mid, why couldn't the opponent simply block standing up as opposed to wasting armor to get out? Am I missing something here?

it's a 50/50 that armor breaks.

 

[fr stack]

So has anyone figured out a midscreen setup that works effectively? NJK mid bomb gets blown up by everything.

so does st.4 mid bomb

just use b2 last in your combo and mid bomb from there its a dirty set up but tech roll or not they either wake up or block , if you notice they back dash then do a far bomb f34 combo
metered you can finish with ex air grab and mid bomb.


also any XB1 cyrax players hit me up we should lab some shenanigans!

 

[SOULWARRIOR 71K]

it's a 50/50 that armor breaks.

I guess I'm not understanding how what's being done is a 50/50. I thought mid+overhead = standing block.

 

[scarsunseen]

I guess I'm not understanding how what's being done is a 50/50. I thought mid+overhead = standing block.

It's a 50/50 because he can do B1 or B3 with the ex-bomb. If they block incorrectly they get reset and are caught in a net. However, if they block correctly, you are pretty much fucked.