xxFalcon Loverxx
Ignorant slaves, how quickly you forget.
I will never understand why people think shinnok is top 5 after 31/8 patch tbh.Shinnok will always be top5 in the eyes of TYM
I will never understand why people think shinnok is top 5 after 31/8 patch tbh.Shinnok will always be top5 in the eyes of TYM
Well, no top players play him.why no one is mentioning kano ? cutthroat might be top 5
Impostor buffs hypeShinnok will always be top5 in the eyes of TYM
Basically thisIDK about top 5 but the characters that are a step above the rest cast to me IMO are:
Alien(Most likely)
Jax
Sonya
Sub Zero
Mileena
Takeda
Shinnok
Johnny Cage
Kano
Ferra/Torr
D'Vorah
Quan Chi
TBH I don't think there's a single bad character in this game if you consider all variations.
Why is mileena in so many ppls top 3 list? this is a genuine question? because not so long ago everyone was saying she was mid tier and needed buffs? i dont need a huge explaination, just let me why what variation and what makes her so good? im super curious tbh, Thnks1. Mileena
2. Johnny
3. Takeda
4. Shinnok
5. Kotal
6. D'vorah
7. Erron Black
8. Jax
9. Kano
10. Sonya
Sonya below Erron, Shinnok, Kotal and Kano? IDK about that.1. Mileena
2. Johnny
3. Takeda
4. Shinnok
5. Kotal
6. D'vorah
7. Erron Black
8. Jax
9. Kano
10. Sonya
She got hella buffs and a bunch of characters got nerfed. Some of her most important buffs:Why is mileena in so many ppls top 3 list? this is a genuine question? because not so long ago everyone was saying she was mid tier and needed buffs? i dont need a huge explaination, just let me why what variation and what makes her so good? im super curious tbh, Thnks
Really? I think he's a solid mid tier. There's nothing he really lacks other than plus frames now I guess.Erron Black as a whole is bottom ten imo
Then you clearly have not fought someone who specializes in the character. Erron has mixups galore and plus on block 50/50s with powerful zoning, Marksman is also a threat now with his new combo ability. Shinnok controls so much space with hellsparks and most of the entire cast can't deal with imposter. Kotal's variations are completely flawless and have no downsides whatsoever, especially with sun god. Kano's variations are all solid but cutthroat has 50/50s that are hit-confirmable and safe. Did I mention he hits just as hard if not harder than Blood God Kotal? Sonya would be higher but she has to manage grenades to get any of this done for free, which believe it or not, requires you to actually think. I base my tier lists off how easy it is to pickup a character and go ham. See my point?Sonya below Erron, Shinnok, Kotal and Kano? IDK about that.
In this game bottom ten = solid mid tier. Definitely a good character.Really? I think he's a solid mid tier. There's nothing he really lacks other than plus frames now I guess.
His plus on block 50/50s aren't as good as they used to be because EX grenade is +1 now with large pushback.Then you clearly have not fought someone who specializes in the character. Erron has mixups galore and plus on block 50/50s with powerful zoning, Marksman is also a threat now with his new combo ability. Shinnok controls so much space with hellsparks and most of the entire cast can't deal with imposter. Kotal's variations are completely flawless and have no downsides whatsoever, especially with sun god. Kano's variations are all solid but cutthroat has 50/50s that are hit-confirmable and safe. Did I mention he hits just as hard if not harder than Blood God Kotal? Sonya would be higher but she has to manage grenades to get any of this done for free, which believe it or not, requires you to actually think. I base my tier lists off how easy it is to pickup a character and go ham. See my point?
Piercing, B12 staggers, easy hit confirm into 30%+ into plus on hit restand, zone opponent with insane fast recovery on projectiles, they get in, the whole process starts over.Why is mileena in so many ppls top 3 list? this is a genuine question? because not so long ago everyone was saying she was mid tier and needed buffs? i dont need a huge explaination, just let me why what variation and what makes her so good? im super curious tbh, Thnks
I disagree with this because you can't just pick up A-List Cage or SQ D'Vorah and go ham, they definitely require execution and thinking. Sonya needing to think to get such a powerful tool as the drones isn't the end of the world.I base my tier lists off how easy it is to pickup a character and go ham. See my point?
Wrong, they changed that from the beta.His plus on block 50/50s aren't as good as they used to be because EX grenade is +1 now with large pushback.
How much is it right now?Wrong, they changed that from the beta.
I think they're all great characters but demo is just better than all of them imo. I don't think easiness should be taken into account with tiers, what should be taken account is who is best when they're played at the best possible level. And I think demo is top 5 maybe top 3.Then you clearly have not fought someone who specializes in the character. Erron has mixups galore and plus on block 50/50s with powerful zoning, Marksman is also a threat now with his new combo ability. Shinnok controls so much space with hellsparks and most of the entire cast can't deal with imposter. Kotal's variations are completely flawless and have no downsides whatsoever, especially with sun god. Kano's variations are all solid but cutthroat has 50/50s that are hit-confirmable and safe. Did I mention he hits just as hard if not harder than Blood God Kotal? Sonya would be higher but she has to manage grenades to get any of this done for free, which believe it or not, requires you to actually think. I base my tier lists off how easy it is to pickup a character and go ham. See my point?
D'vorah is a special case because she can be used both execution heavy for damage or 3% less and get the same result. I picked her up out of boredom and I was able to do her jailing cancels on block and her 1 frame combos on hit. She isn't that hard imo. Also Cage is extremely easy. 11 staggers, throws, 113, F42, into restand, into jailing pressure, build a full bar, and if your opponent tries to zone you out, full screen shadow kick that is safe (yes I know it can be neutral ducked but it recovers way to fast), and repeat. lmao.I disagree with this because you can't just pick up A-List Cage or SQ D'Vorah and go ham, they definitely require execution and thinking. Sonya needing to think to get such a powerful tool as the drones isn't the end of the world.
You're missing the point, she needs grenades. If she runs out and gets touched once, its pretty much over. Have you not seen ESL season 2 grand finals? Perfect example.I think they're all great characters but demo is just better than all of them imo. I don't think easiness should be taken into account with tiers, what should be taken account is who is best when they're played at the best possible level. And I think demo is top 5 maybe top 3.
She has everything.
Space control with grenades.
Ability to convert off of every hit into a full combo.
Armour breaking setups.
Safe 50/50s
Non meter dependant giveing her access to breakers, wakeups, reversals and x-rays a lot of the time.
Strong pokes.
Plus frames on strings.
Pressure with grenades.
High damage.