Shinnok will always be top5 in the eyes of TYMShinnok is not top 5 lol
People really don't know much about shinnok. For instance how he has no really good staggers, is minus on all his stuff basically etc. Don't get me wrong, he's great, he just isn't a list material.Shinnok will always be top5 in the eyes of TYM
All dlc got nerfed to the ground.If this game had no DLC she would be. Her faster armor doesn't really matter cause it still loses to the same tactics, also more minus on block . Top 10 for sure, just not convinced about top 5
What is it about Shinnok that makes him so good? Don't tell me his zoning lol.Anyone without shinok in their top 5 is crazy, he wins the most matchups out of anyone. And Dvorah instead of takaeda forsure
Shinnok is not top 5 lol
Be careful on where you put dualistI think I have a pretty decent tier list so I figure that here is as good to share it as any. Characters in a tier are virtually the same in therms of quality.
S tier: Alien(Acidic), Alien(Tarkatan), Jax(Wrestler), Sonya(Demolition), Mileena(Piercing), Takeda(SR), Shinnok(Imposter), Kano(Cutthroat), Johnny Cage(A-List), Ferra/Torr(Ruthless), D'Vorah(Swarm Queen)
A+ tier: Alien(Konjurer), Jax(HW), Jax(Pumped Up), Sonya(Covert Ops), Scorpion(Hellfire), Sub-Zero(Grandmaster), Takeda(Ronin), Takeda(Lasher), Cassie Cage(Hollywood), Kung Jin(Shaolin), Leatherface(Killer), Leatherface(Butcher), Predator(HQT),Shinnok(BS), Kano(Commando), Johnny Cage(Stund Double) Liu Kang(Dragon's Fire), Kotal Kahn(War God), Kotal Kahn(Sun God), Reptile(Deceptive), Ferra/Torr(Lackey), Quan Chi(Summoner), Quan Chi(Sorcerer), Quan Chi(Warlock), Tremor(Crystalline), Triborg(Sektor)
A tier: Jason(Slasher), Jason(Relentless), Jason(Unstoppable), Kung Lao(Tempest), Sonya(Special Forces), Kenshi(Possesed), Kenshi(Kenjutsu), Kitana(Royal Storm), Kitana(Assasin) Kitana(Mournful), Scorpion(Ninjutsu), Sub-Zero(Cryomancer), Mileena(Ethereal), Cassie Cage(Brawler), Cassie Cage(Spec Ops), Jacqui(Full Auto), Jacqui(Shotgun), Kung Jin(Bojutsu), Tanya(Kobu Jutsu), Bo Rai Cho(Dragons Breath), Lestherface(Pretty Lady), Predator(Hunter), Kano(Cybernetic), Erron Black(Gunslinger), Liu Kang(Flame Fists) Ermac(Spectral), Ermac(Master of Souls), Kotal Kahn(Blood God), Reptile(Noxius), Reptile(Nimble), Ferra/Torr(Viscious), D'Vorah(Venomous), Raiden(Thunder God), Raiden(Displacer), Goro(Dragon Fangs), Tremor(Aftershock), Triborg(Cyrax), Triborg(Smoke)
A- tier: Kung Lao(Buzzsaw), Mileena(Ravenous), Bo Rai Cho(Bartitsu), Shinnok(Necromancer), Johnny Cage(Fisticuffs), Erron Black(Outlaw), Erron Black(Marksman), Ermac(Mystic), D'Vorah(Brood Mother), Goro(KW), Goro(Tigrar Fury), Tremor(Metallic)
B tier: Kung Lao(Hat Trick), Kenshi(Balanced), Scorpion(Inferno), Sub-Zero(Unbreakable), Jacqui(High Tech), Kung Jin(Ancestral), Tanya(Pyro), Bo Rai Cho(Drunken Master), Predator(Warrior), Liu Kang(Dualist), Raiden(Master of Storms)
C tier: Tanya(Naginata), Triborg(Cyber Sub-Zero)
ShhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhKonjurer is very good, has anti-wakeup setups as well. Good setups both midscreen and corner which have safe two guaranteed mixups, you can do f4 xx db3, f4 xx bf4, b3 xx db3, b3 xx bf4.DB3 low, BF4 overhead, so it basically guarantees you have to block two safe mixups in a row which lead to 40% meterless into another setup.
And you can use alien's mixups to open the opponent up and f134 mixups and pressure too.
So he's pretty good.
Where do you think he should go?Be careful on where you put dualist
A to A+Where do you think he should go?
Konjurer is my secondary and he is good, but only once you've hit the opponent. The other variations are good on block also. The only safe thing he has is bf4 and after most strings there is a gap.Konjurer is very good, has anti-wakeup setups as well. Good setups both midscreen and corner which have safe two guaranteed mixups, you can do f4 xx db3, f4 xx bf4, b3 xx db3, b3 xx bf4.DB3 low, BF4 overhead, so it basically guarantees you have to block two safe mixups in a row which lead to 40% meterless into another setup.
And you can use alien's mixups to open the opponent up and f134 mixups and pressure too.
So he's pretty good.
Did something change recently or did I just have my head up my ass? lolA to A+
Iirc i played someone with your tym tag on ps4 and i think it was you, i tried to jump out of the f134 xx egg set-up, but the facehugger caught me. Is that just me not knowing the match-up or was i just not blocking in time?Konjurer is my secondary and he is good, but only once you've hit the opponent. The other variations are good on block also. The only safe thing he has is bf4 and after most strings there is a gap.
His 112 set up can be jumped out of, wake up, delayed wake up, back dashed, even wake up normal can beat some of his options. But if you do block you have to block low,low or low,oh or oh,low or oh,oh.
He has hard to blackable setups but hthey use a meter and don't lead to a lot of damage.
He has suprisingly decent spacing/zoning but only against non-zoners really. Setting up the hugger mimd screen or on you and using the db4 and b3 is good at keeping opponents out if they already struggle against zoning.
The only thing 'buff' i would like is when you call face hugger manually to be sped up so it's safe on a block string. like if f134 db1 (with egg already out) is safe. I think that would help his pressure out.
It seems to be a bit hit and miss really. I think if you jump backwards immediately and you block when you land you'll be safe. But sometimes the f4 will hit you. Jumping over or jumping up the hugger will catch you I believe all the time. But maybe instant njp may workm I'll check later the ways to escape by jumping.Iirc i played someone with your tym tag on ps4 and i think it was you, i tried to jump out of the f134 xx egg set-up, but the facehugger caught me. Is that just me not knowing the match-up or was i just not blocking in time?
He got buffs and nobody knew about himDid something change recently or did I just have my head up my ass? lol
Alright thanksHe got buffs and nobody knew about him