General/Other - TriBorg Why Triborg is mostly balanced and only nerfs/buffs he MIGHT need since only day 4

[MadeOfMetal]

i don't think i've ever completely disagreed with a thread before this.
cyrax's zoning isn't terrible. now projectile in this game has as much hitadvantage as net so no one wants to trade with it. and he has decent pressure. a lot of plus frames on strings
sektor is clearly game breaking right now i'm not even gonna argue about this one.
sub is definitely disgusting. wanna know who's fair? subzero. now compare this dude to subzero. like come on
smoke has the least dirt but he still has a vortex and as far as i know he can get out of the corner for free everytime for a bar

you sir are drunk to call these guys fair but i'm not even mad at you cus a lot of people are calling them broke unnecesarily (except sektor) so this balances it out

Cyrax zoning is by no means the best. ungodly negative on bombs, unless you let them hit you and don't take advantage of the gap between them.
and that net is seriously negative on block, nuff said.
and pressure ill agreee with if your at max footsie, but Plus frames come on, what just 1112 is +2 on block and its an ender.
alot is a streatch, and if your talking on hit, who doesnt have that advantage on hit.

Sektor is nowhere near game breaking so far, his only dirtis his up rockets, and that is by no means game breaking, there is plenty of options to deal with it.

Honestly CSZ is not disgusting, his Air dive kicks at 10startup 13 recover and what can only be wronge -18 block advantage, should be punishable on block.. and he would be more than fair... he already can't do alot, you surly must realize they pulled in many top players in NRS to test them out before release. and already made them fair, cant freez more than once, im honestly fine with them having almost no recovery on wiff.


Smoke actually has more dirt than most of them, but i wouldnt say he needs a nerf...

the plus 10 on EX smoke is fine, im sure it can be armored on may of his srings. and its just a tool, it kind of makes up for him not having his MK9 smoke away and toward. and who cares if he has a vortex, honestly in this meta whats different than mutiple cancels into a guessing game or a vortex into a guessing game.



My early tier list for triborg as of now.

1. CSZ
2.Smoke
3.Sektor
4.Cyrax


Cyrax is a leaky Boat and deserves no nerfs whatso ever. and if he did get one, don't dare touch his normals or specials, just take away his loop from net and low bomb into b2.
ut honestly ut can be blocked and breakered even when done perfectly.

and his "so called HTB's" can be jumped out of, backdashed, and even armored, don't forget Easily fuzzy blocked. delayed one is Hold down let off back on immideatly. and the rc timing one is hold down till last hit and hold up, fuzzy blockable as hell.


if people gotta whine about something on cyrax and get something nerfed because they can't lab it up, then take the loop away, but touch nothing else on him.

and while we are at it, if he loses that setup for HTB reset, i use as a once time HTB then combo off it. then Buff his DF4 while standing and add armor while standing. cuz he needs it in so many matchups.


sektor has great pressure with the up rockets, but its jumpable if you time it right just Cross over, or poke and Backdash.

i just can't believe that this community will cry about something they have had zero time to lab out. shows alot, Day 6 and they all must be nerfed, forget labbing just nerf them.. come on.

the people i have pulled the reset on "which is not a genuine reset" just screamed "Broke" or "OP" obviously are scrubbes, they didnt even try to lab nothing out, just said there is no way. i bet they spent a whole of 10min in practice trying to find away around it. only to state i didn't find it that quick its impossible to stop. they are different than the rest of the cast, i can't punish them the same way, they must be nerfed. it baffels me how icould go in lab for an hour and prove how both of them can be avoided blocked or down right stoped befor it happends very easily with the right practice.


Just to let all others know, Cyrax EX bombs are not +8 on block
just like CSZ dive kick is not -18 on block

 

[MadeOfMetal]

i don't think i've ever completely disagreed with a thread before this.
cyrax's zoning isn't terrible. now projectile in this game has as much hitadvantage as net so no one wants to trade with it. and he has decent pressure. a lot of plus frames on strings
sektor is clearly game breaking right now i'm not even gonna argue about this one.
sub is definitely disgusting. wanna know who's fair? subzero. now compare this dude to subzero. like come on
smoke has the least dirt but he still has a vortex and as far as i know he can get out of the corner for free everytime for a bar

you sir are drunk to call these guys fair but i'm not even mad at you cus a lot of people are calling them broke unnecesarily (except sektor) so this balances it out

Cyrax zoning is by no means the best. ungodly negative on bombs, unless you let them hit you and don't take advantage of the gap between them.
and that net is seriously negative on block, nuff said.
and pressure ill agreee with if your at max footsie, but Plus frames come on, what just 1112 is +2 on block and its an ender.
alot is a streatch, and if your talking on hit, who doesnt have that advantage on hit.

Sektor is nowhere near game breaking so far, his only dirtis his up rockets, and that is by no means game breaking, there is plenty of options to deal with it.

Honestly CSZ is not disgusting, his Air dive kicks at 10startup 13 recover and what can only be wronge -18 block advantage, should be punishable on block.. and he would be more than fair... he already can't do alot, you surly must realize they pulled in many top players in NRS to test them out before release. and already made them fair, cant freez more than once, im honestly fine with them having almost no recovery on wiff.


Smoke actually has more dirt than most of them, but i wouldnt say he needs a nerf...

the plus 10 on EX smoke is fine, im sure it can be armored on may of his srings. and its just a tool, it kind of makes up for him not having his MK9 smoke away and toward. and who cares if he has a vortex, honestly in this meta whats different than mutiple cancels into a guessing game or a vortex into a guessing game.



My early tier list for triborg as of now.

1. CSZ
2.Smoke
3.Sektor
4.Cyrax


Cyrax is a leaky Boat and deserves no nerfs whatso ever. and if he did get one, don't dare touch his normals or specials, just take away his loop from net and low bomb into b2.
ut honestly ut can be blocked and breakered even when done perfectly.

and his "so called HTB's" can be jumped out of, backdashed, and even armored, don't forget Easily fuzzy blocked. delayed one is Hold down let off back on immideatly. and the rc timing one is hold down till last hit and hold up, fuzzy blockable as hell.


if people gotta whine about something on cyrax and get something nerfed because they can't lab it up, then take the loop away, but touch nothing else on him.

and while we are at it, if he loses that setup for HTB reset, i use as a once time HTB then combo off it. then Buff his DF4 while standing and add armor while standing. cuz he needs it in so many matchups.


sektor has great pressure with the up rockets, but its jumpable if you time it right just Cross over, or poke and Backdash.

i just can't believe that this community will cry about something they have had zero time to lab out. shows alot, Day 6 and they all must be nerfed, forget labbing just nerf them.. come on.

the people i have pulled the reset on "which is not a genuine reset" just screamed "Broke" or "OP" obviously are scrubbes, they didnt even try to lab nothing out, just said there is no way. i bet they spent a whole of 10min in practice trying to find away around it. only to state i didn't find it that quick its impossible to stop. they are different than the rest of the cast, i can't punish them the same way, they must be nerfed. it baffels me how icould go in lab for an hour and prove how both of them can be avoided blocked or down right stoped befor it happends very easily with the right practice.

 

[MadeOfMetal]

i don't think i've ever completely disagreed with a thread before this.
cyrax's zoning isn't terrible. now projectile in this game has as much hitadvantage as net so no one wants to trade with it. and he has decent pressure. a lot of plus frames on strings
sektor is clearly game breaking right now i'm not even gonna argue about this one.
sub is definitely disgusting. wanna know who's fair? subzero. now compare this dude to subzero. like come on
smoke has the least dirt but he still has a vortex and as far as i know he can get out of the corner for free everytime for a bar

you sir are drunk to call these guys fair but i'm not even mad at you cus a lot of people are calling them broke unnecesarily (except sektor) so this balances it out

Cyrax zoning is by no means the best. ungodly negative on bombs, unless you let them hit you and don't take advantage of the gap between them.
and that net is seriously negative on block, nuff said.
and pressure ill agreee with if your at max footsie, but Plus frames come on, what just 1112 is +2 on block and its an ender.
alot is a streatch, and if your talking on hit, who doesnt have that advantage on hit.

Sektor is nowhere near game breaking so far, his only dirtis his up rockets, and that is by no means game breaking, there is plenty of options to deal with it.

Honestly CSZ is not disgusting, his Air dive kicks at 10startup 13 recover and what can only be wronge -18 block advantage, should be punishable on block.. and he would be more than fair... he already can't do alot, you surly must realize they pulled in many top players in NRS to test them out before release. and already made them fair, cant freez more than once, im honestly fine with them having almost no recovery on wiff.


Smoke actually has more dirt than most of them, but i wouldnt say he needs a nerf...

the plus 10 on EX smoke is fine, im sure it can be armored on may of his srings. and its just a tool, it kind of makes up for him not having his MK9 smoke away and toward. and who cares if he has a vortex, honestly in this meta whats different than mutiple cancels into a guessing game or a vortex into a guessing game.



My early tier list for triborg as of now.

1. CSZ
2.Smoke
3.Sektor
4.Cyrax


Cyrax is a leaky Boat and deserves no nerfs whatso ever. and if he did get one, don't dare touch his normals or specials, just take away his loop from net and low bomb into b2.
ut honestly ut can be blocked and breakered even when done perfectly.

and his "so called HTB's" can be jumped out of, backdashed, and even armored, don't forget Easily fuzzy blocked. delayed one is Hold down let off back on immideatly. and the rc timing one is hold down till last hit and hold up, fuzzy blockable as hell.


if people gotta whine about something on cyrax and get something nerfed because they can't lab it up, then take the loop away, but touch nothing else on him.

and while we are at it, if he loses that setup for HTB reset, i use as a once time HTB then combo off it. then Buff his DF4 while standing and add armor while standing. cuz he needs it in so many matchups.


sektor has great pressure with the up rockets, but its jumpable if you time it right just Cross over, or poke and Backdash.

i just can't believe that this community will cry about something they have had zero time to lab out. shows alot, Day 6 and they all must be nerfed, forget labbing just nerf them.. come on.

the people i have pulled the reset on "which is not a genuine reset" just screamed "Broke" or "OP" obviously are scrubbes, they didnt even try to lab nothing out, just said there is no way. i bet they spent a whole of 10min in practice trying to find away around it. only to state i didn't find it that quick its impossible to stop. they are different than the rest of the cast, i can't punish them the same way, they must be nerfed. it baffels me how icould go in lab for an hour and prove how both of them can be avoided blocked or down right stoped befor it happends very easily with the right practice.

 

[MadeOfMetal]

i don't think i've ever completely disagreed with a thread before this.
cyrax's zoning isn't terrible. now projectile in this game has as much hitadvantage as net so no one wants to trade with it. and he has decent pressure. a lot of plus frames on strings
sektor is clearly game breaking right now i'm not even gonna argue about this one.
sub is definitely disgusting. wanna know who's fair? subzero. now compare this dude to subzero. like come on
smoke has the least dirt but he still has a vortex and as far as i know he can get out of the corner for free everytime for a bar

you sir are drunk to call these guys fair but i'm not even mad at you cus a lot of people are calling them broke unnecesarily (except sektor) so this balances it out

Cyrax zoning is by no means the best. ungodly negative on bombs, unless you let them hit you and don't take advantage of the gap between them.
and that net is seriously negative on block, nuff said.
and pressure ill agreee with if your at max footsie, but Plus frames come on, what just 1112 is +2 on block and its an ender.
alot is a streatch, and if your talking on hit, who doesnt have that advantage on hit.

Sektor is nowhere near game breaking so far, his only dirtis his up rockets, and that is by no means game breaking, there is plenty of options to deal with it.

Honestly CSZ is not disgusting, his Air dive kicks at 10startup 13 recover and what can only be wronge -18 block advantage, should be punishable on block.. and he would be more than fair... he already can't do alot, you surly must realize they pulled in many top players in NRS to test them out before release. and already made them fair, cant freez more than once, im honestly fine with them having almost no recovery on wiff.


Smoke actually has more dirt than most of them, but i wouldnt say he needs a nerf...

the plus 10 on EX smoke is fine, im sure it can be armored on may of his srings. and its just a tool, it kind of makes up for him not having his MK9 smoke away and toward. and who cares if he has a vortex, honestly in this meta whats different than mutiple cancels into a guessing game or a vortex into a guessing game.



My early tier list for triborg as of now.

1. CSZ
2.Smoke
3.Sektor
4.Cyrax


Cyrax is a leaky Boat and deserves no nerfs whatso ever. and if he did get one, don't dare touch his normals or specials, just take away his loop from net and low bomb into b2.
ut honestly ut can be blocked and breakered even when done perfectly.

and his "so called HTB's" can be jumped out of, backdashed, and even armored, don't forget Easily fuzzy blocked. delayed one is Hold down let off back on immideatly. and the rc timing one is hold down till last hit and hold up, fuzzy blockable as hell.


if people gotta whine about something on cyrax and get something nerfed because they can't lab it up, then take the loop away, but touch nothing else on him.

and while we are at it, if he loses that setup for HTB reset, i use as a once time HTB then combo off it. then Buff his DF4 while standing and add armor while standing. cuz he needs it in so many matchups.


sektor has great pressure with the up rockets, but its jumpable if you time it right just Cross over, or poke and Backdash.

i just can't believe that this community will cry about something they have had zero time to lab out. shows alot, Day 6 and they all must be nerfed, forget labbing just nerf them.. come on.

the people i have pulled the reset on "which is not a genuine reset" just screamed "Broke" or "OP" obviously are scrubbes, they didnt even try to lab nothing out, just said there is no way. i bet they spent a whole of 10min in practice trying to find away around it. only to state i didn't find it that quick its impossible to stop. they are different than the rest of the cast, i can't punish them the same way, they must be nerfed. it baffels me how icould go in lab for an hour and prove how both of them can be avoided blocked or down right stoped befor it happends very easily with the right practice.

 

[MadeOfMetal]

i don't think i've ever completely disagreed with a thread before this.
cyrax's zoning isn't terrible. now projectile in this game has as much hitadvantage as net so no one wants to trade with it. and he has decent pressure. a lot of plus frames on strings
sektor is clearly game breaking right now i'm not even gonna argue about this one.
sub is definitely disgusting. wanna know who's fair? subzero. now compare this dude to subzero. like come on
smoke has the least dirt but he still has a vortex and as far as i know he can get out of the corner for free everytime for a bar

you sir are drunk to call these guys fair but i'm not even mad at you cus a lot of people are calling them broke unnecesarily (except sektor) so this balances it out

Cyrax zoning is by no means the best. ungodly negative on bombs, unless you let them hit you and don't take advantage of the gap between them.
and that net is seriously negative on block, nuff said.
and pressure ill agreee with if your at max footsie, but Plus frames come on, what just 1112 is +2 on block and its an ender.
alot is a streatch, and if your talking on hit, who doesnt have that advantage on hit.

Sektor is nowhere near game breaking so far, his only dirtis his up rockets, and that is by no means game breaking, there is plenty of options to deal with it.

Honestly CSZ is not disgusting, his Air dive kicks at 10startup 13 recover and what can only be wronge -18 block advantage, should be punishable on block.. and he would be more than fair... he already can't do alot, you surly must realize they pulled in many top players in NRS to test them out before release. and already made them fair, cant freez more than once, im honestly fine with them having almost no recovery on wiff.


Smoke actually has more dirt than most of them, but i wouldnt say he needs a nerf...

the plus 10 on EX smoke is fine, im sure it can be armored on may of his srings. and its just a tool, it kind of makes up for him not having his MK9 smoke away and toward. and who cares if he has a vortex, honestly in this meta whats different than mutiple cancels into a guessing game or a vortex into a guessing game.



My early tier list for triborg as of now.

1. CSZ
2.Smoke
3.Sektor
4.Cyrax


Cyrax is a leaky Boat and deserves no nerfs whatso ever. and if he did get one, don't dare touch his normals or specials, just take away his loop from net and low bomb into b2.
ut honestly ut can be blocked and breakered even when done perfectly.

and his "so called HTB's" can be jumped out of, backdashed, and even armored, don't forget Easily fuzzy blocked. delayed one is Hold down let off back on immideatly. and the rc timing one is hold down till last hit and hold up, fuzzy blockable as hell.


if people gotta whine about something on cyrax and get something nerfed because they can't lab it up, then take the loop away, but touch nothing else on him.

and while we are at it, if he loses that setup for HTB reset, i use as a once time HTB then combo off it. then Buff his DF4 while standing and add armor while standing. cuz he needs it in so many matchups.


sektor has great pressure with the up rockets, but its jumpable if you time it right just Cross over, or poke and Backdash.

i just can't believe that this community will cry about something they have had zero time to lab out. shows alot, Day 6 and they all must be nerfed, forget labbing just nerf them.. come on.

the people i have pulled the reset on "which is not a genuine reset" just screamed "Broke" or "OP" obviously are scrubbes, they didnt even try to lab nothing out, just said there is no way. i bet they spent a whole of 10min in practice trying to find away around it. only to state i didn't find it that quick its impossible to stop. they are different than the rest of the cast, i can't punish them the same way, they must be nerfed. it baffels me how icould go in lab for an hour and prove how both of them can be avoided blocked or down right stoped befor it happends very easily with the right practice.

 

[DR.Innuendo]

ok

man im having problems quoting posts. id sayasfar as of now, they are all fair, and struggle in thier own ways. i haven't had a problem i couldn't figure out with practice. i never even had a problem with quan before nerf.

id say let cyrax stay as is and even possibly give him better armor while in neutral.

if he did get a nerf do it on the loop reset, and allow him to reset once in a combo, but make em drop hard after the first reset.

smoke seems fine but might need better armor.

sektor seems ok, where he is strong he suffers in other ways.

and CSZ seems fine, but if he needed a nerf make his Air D3 a mid and keep Air D4 an overhead, since the D4 is punishble and the D3 is not, it would be better to make it a mid, so there is a viable reason to use the 2

 

[TamedLizard]

 

[omooba]

Cyrax zoning is by no means the best. ungodly negative on bombs, unless you let them hit you and don't take advantage of the gap between them.
and that net is seriously negative on block, nuff said.
and pressure ill agreee with if your at max footsie, but Plus frames come on, what just 1112 is +2 on block and its an ender.
alot is a streatch, and if your talking on hit, who doesnt have that advantage on hit.

Sektor is nowhere near game breaking so far, his only dirtis his up rockets, and that is by no means game breaking, there is plenty of options to deal with it.

Honestly CSZ is not disgusting, his Air dive kicks at 10startup 13 recover and what can only be wronge -18 block advantage, should be punishable on block.. and he would be more than fair... he already can't do alot, you surly must realize they pulled in many top players in NRS to test them out before release. and already made them fair, cant freez more than once, im honestly fine with them having almost no recovery on wiff.


Smoke actually has more dirt than most of them, but i wouldnt say he needs a nerf...

the plus 10 on EX smoke is fine, im sure it can be armored on may of his srings. and its just a tool, it kind of makes up for him not having his MK9 smoke away and toward. and who cares if he has a vortex, honestly in this meta whats different than mutiple cancels into a guessing game or a vortex into a guessing game.



My early tier list for triborg as of now.

1. CSZ
2.Smoke
3.Sektor
4.Cyrax


Cyrax is a leaky Boat and deserves no nerfs whatso ever. and if he did get one, don't dare touch his normals or specials, just take away his loop from net and low bomb into b2.
ut honestly ut can be blocked and breakered even when done perfectly.

and his "so called HTB's" can be jumped out of, backdashed, and even armored, don't forget Easily fuzzy blocked. delayed one is Hold down let off back on immideatly. and the rc timing one is hold down till last hit and hold up, fuzzy blockable as hell.


if people gotta whine about something on cyrax and get something nerfed because they can't lab it up, then take the loop away, but touch nothing else on him.

and while we are at it, if he loses that setup for HTB reset, i use as a once time HTB then combo off it. then Buff his DF4 while standing and add armor while standing. cuz he needs it in so many matchups.


sektor has great pressure with the up rockets, but its jumpable if you time it right just Cross over, or poke and Backdash.

i just can't believe that this community will cry about something they have had zero time to lab out. shows alot, Day 6 and they all must be nerfed, forget labbing just nerf them.. come on.

the people i have pulled the reset on "which is not a genuine reset" just screamed "Broke" or "OP" obviously are scrubbes, they didnt even try to lab nothing out, just said there is no way. i bet they spent a whole of 10min in practice trying to find away around it. only to state i didn't find it that quick its impossible to stop. they are different than the rest of the cast, i can't punish them the same way, they must be nerfed. it baffels me how icould go in lab for an hour and prove how both of them can be avoided blocked or down right stoped befor it happends very easily with the right practice.

i'm not even gonna try at all nope no way. not arguing with someone this... i can't nope. all i'll say is sektor is the only character in the game who's neutral you have to respect completely. not replying to anything else in this thread

 

[MadeOfMetal]

i'm not even gonna try at all nope no way. not arguing with someone this... i can't nope. all i'll say is sektor is the only character in the game who's neutral you have to respect completely. not replying to anything else in this thread

lolo u make me laugh, lab up a bit before spreading false information, you will find there are ways around those rockets.

 

[Shaikhuzzaman]

Spoiler: Cyrax

Cyrax is balanced and here's why. He has mostly shit normals other then f21 and the only offense he truly has is his vortex. "Well he's just Quan all over again!" You might be bitchi-err I mean complaining about. But he's different! He doesn't have good zoning or half 1/4 screen overheads! He only has the vortex and heavily scaling combos. Other characters have hard to blockables AND range like Takeda and Quan to a extent. Yes they need meter but Cyrax only has the vortex and shitty strings so it's fair IMO.

Spoiler: Smoke

i won't say much here, Smoke is balanced nuff said. If anything maybe give him b1 24 combo extender for a bar but he doesn't really need it. Just hitbox whiffing fixes is all.

Spoiler: Sektor

hes also perfect. Now "what about his missile setups! They have OP hit advantage!!" Well those are fair too. They ARENT over heads, the setup can be punished if used badly in the neutral and if they use them as a setup then either armor or RESPECT IT. "But they break ar"- no they don't. Maybe if setup then using a fast normal but they don't break armor theirselves. Only 1 missile hits on armor and block. So he's fine where he is and before you say it, I'm not against tremor. I actually think he got hit a bit too hard and didn't really need a nerf.

Spoiler: Cyber Subzero

Cyber Brady himself! And before I get crusified by the community hear me out. I think he's FAIR in every aspect EXCEPT the Dive kick. He gets average damage and his meterless 40% are only corner and need drones. Now how do we nerf the divekick? Well not the recovery since other characters have good recovery and dicekicks. The only nerf I think is make full screen divekick a unsafe overhead or a safe mid. What about the close one? Well I think one of them should be a safe mid and a unsafe overhead to have reason to use both. So I will let you guys decide which one or dispute what nerfs you think he needs. Other then that I'm fine with triborg lol.

Both close and far dive kick are already unsafe. If you do the dive kick as low as possible it is safer but still unsafe

Though I agree it is a very good move

 

[Shaikhuzzaman]

Still early and ur pretty on point but anyone who thinks smoke is ok with no armor is crazy, and plz nrs fix the whiffing

Is invincibility not enough for you?

 

[I GOT HANDS]

lolo u make me laugh, lab up a bit before spreading false information, you will find there are ways around those rockets.

pretty ironic from someone who just said "and his "so called HTB's" can be jumped out of, backdashed, and even armored, don't forget Easily fuzzy blocked."

 

[boba_buster]

Is invincibility not enough for you?

In mkx? No not really , ur options are get up blocking and eat chip and mix up or be baiting into using phase and punished or phase on wake up and whiff punish them , you have a one in three chance of not getting hit , that's not good odds in mkx when others have safer ways of getting off the ground and get respect on wake up because of their armor

 

[boba_buster]

Having even crappy armor like quans portal drop would at least demand a little more respect on wake up cause they would have to deal with the fact that you can do it

 

[Shaikhuzzaman]

In mkx? No not really , ur options are get up blocking and eat chip and mix up or be baiting into using phase and punished or phase on wake up and whiff punish them , you have a one in three chance of not getting hit , that's not good odds in mkx when others have safer ways of getting off the ground and get respect on wake up because of their armor

Armour can be baited just as easily. With the teleport you dont take any damage on wakeup either if the try to start pressure on knockdown and you will get a whiff punish

 

[ismael4790]

incorrect, first of all he is ony garanteed the setup if he uses meter, all other opions into it are very punishable. his close to ground one can be blocked! can be backdashed, can be jumped out of metered, breakered and xrayed.


incorrect as well, his low bomb into b3d4 is fuzzy blockable, just lab it.
and his so called resets can also be blocked, jumped outwith certain characters, and meter punished with several. xray and breakered. btw once they presuure you and get you in that meterless setup which is like 25+ frames to punish. they will only make it to 40% before you can break it.

Yeah, I know it can be blocked, that's why it is called hard to block and not impossible to block xD
The fact that you state breaker or xray as options to escape something his quite hilarious man.

Although it is possible to escape, that doesn't mean it is really hard to do it and should be normalized, as it happened with Quan Chi stuff. Cyrax had a reset in mk9, that doesn't mean he needs to have something similar in mkx. I understand some of you like a lot your character. But you should also understand that the majority of the community think that hard to blocks are pure lottery, and almost nobody likes characters that rely on them.

Anyway, I read some of your posts and it seems you find CSZ not disgusting, so at this point (although I respect everyone's opinion), abandon thread.

 

[RiBBz22]

Cant believe we're discussing nerfs and buffs for characters not even a week old.

So you think over time people are going to say, damn I can't believe I thought a 31 frame projectile was slow!!

 

[RYX]

So you think over time people are going to say, damn I can't believe I thought a 31 frame projectile was slow!!

kotal kahn's sun disk has 40 frames of startup and and I don't even get a combo for landing it

buff kotal kahn please

 

[RiBBz22]

kotal kahn's sun disk has 40 frames of startup and and I don't even get a combo for landing it

buff kotal kahn please

Smoke could use a way to create offense. Right now he is unfortunately a pretty boring straightforward mixup char with below average ways to create his offense, ultra meter dependency, and no armor.

 

[RYX]

Smoke could use a way to create offense. Right now he is unfortunately a pretty boring straightforward mixup char with below average ways to create his offense, ultra meter dependency, and no armor.

can i have a combo projectile too

 

[RiBBz22]

can i have a combo projectile too

It is not really a combo projectile because only a scrub will get hit by it. It is a combo extender.

 

[The_Tile]

I love him but my first priority is having fun

Oh trust me, on ranked with CSZ you'll have tons of fun.

 

[Harlequin969]

It is not really a combo projectile because only a scrub will get hit by it. It is a combo extender.

People saying you can zone with smokeball is like saying you can zone with ice ball as Sub.

 

[ragnar0kz28]

I support your opinion aswell but I think it's kind of cool to have a character based around hard to blockables and setups. If every character had one then I can see this game being a mess but if Cyrax is the only variation in game with them and everything else of his is unsafe then you still have to have good neutral game to use him right

how on earth is it "OK" to have pseudo resets that are loopable on a character? are you a random online scrub or somthing? this will hurt the tournament scene alot, when everyone uses Cyber sub or Cyrax, you will see this will go away, and its not hard to fix making all the low bombs a mid and divekicks a mid.

 

[RiBBz22]

People saying you can zone with smokeball is like saying you can zone with ice ball as Sub.

You can with Cyber

¯\(ツ)/¯