Lao has a projectile, yet he is not a zoner. I'm waiting for you to realize that giving a character a projectile doesn't make them a zoner. Giving Cryo a projectile would solve help him in several areas as I just listed, but most importantly it would help with his whiff punishing ability in the same way you think giving him a long range standing normal would, by helping him control space in order to force his opponent to make a mistake.
Design-wise that is the role the hammer was supposed to fill, I'd imagine. Obviously not how it turned out since it's startup and active frames are hot ass but there you have it.
You literally said these words exactly:
Can you quit Sub as well because we don't want the people that find Quan too difficult to play.
You mean the same thread where you wanted Cryomancer to have a long range 7 frame down 1 that starts combos, popped off about how unviable he is, while you ironically didn't understand something as basic as pokes. You are an alright poster most of the time but just stop making buff threads, especially on characters you don't understand the fundamentals of m8.
That was a simple mistake I hadn't thought about. It was just absent mindedness since I knew pokes didn't combo just from playing the game. That 1 accident does not invalidate anything else I said. I've made 3 buff threads, and the only 1 with bad reception was the Cryo one, but again, my points were valid. It only got bad reception because a couple idiots could only focus on 1 small mistake that I even edited out shortly after I posted the thread.
Do what floats your boat I guess lol
LOL, yes, and having a zoning tool does not make a character a zoner. Is Commando Kano a zoner? And I think Quan's too difficult to play? I never said that, I simply didn't agree with the design changes. I never said I thought they made him low tier. It'd be great if you guys could try to win an argument without bringing up completely irrelevant subjects to try to make me look bad.
Don't know what that's supposed to mean. I was talking to somebody else and you kids came in with the passive aggressive remarks telling me I don't understand Cryo's fundamentals and whatnot. You gonna back that up or not?
Commando Kano can adopt a zoning strategy at various points throughout the match to harass his opponent, yes. His knives allow him to do that and his air ball/laser complement people trying to jump over his knives since they're mids and can't be ducked. Sub's kit isn't built around having a normal projectile. It does nothing to plug Cryo's biggest weakness (garbage neutral) and adding it for the purpose of building meter is missing the point that at no point during Cryo's gameplan would he want to be throwing that knife, let along throwing it gratuitously. And no one has to tried to make you look bad, you're doing that pretty well all by yourself. Take your shitty suggestions to the Cryomancer thread so they can be laughed at in the proper place.
From boba's posts in the past he has shown his lack of maturity and common sense, that's why I called him a child.
I like how you dodged my question of whether or not Commando Kano is a zoner. The answer is no he is not. Cybernetic is, but just because Commando can zone decently doesn't mean it's a big enough focus of his for him to be called a zoner.
Don't feed trolls, I'd like to keep this thread as an Unbreakable recourse so the mods don't come in and wreck it because of the cryo talk in the UB thread.
Since they revealed Cyber Sub drone adding damage over time to his iceball freeze, I've been thinking that UB could get the same treatment with his aura.
Came here to say this
Mmm no I have not, try reading bro. You and dankster are both responsible for derailing this thread. I intended to just have a short exchange with lokheit about Cryomancer, but then you both came in here bringing up a thread I made in the past and telling me to "give up". Then you blame me for derailing the thread just for defending myself lol.
Just stop dude , grow up. And u shouldn't be having cryo discussions in the unbreakable thread
