I think d1d2 being -5 is compensation enough
The chances are Quan is also going to be nerfed, man.
They didn't take away hes dmg. Cmon, hes gaps arent that bad either,u have to make them respect not to try armor.Like B3xxGotchagrab. It's a true block string. And in hw u can make it safe with law cancel. If they take away he's gaps it would be too good imo. If they remove gaps I'd hope it would be from D12 but I likely not and its all fine. . If u have hard time opening people up with jax , no offence, u are doing something wrong..
I don't get why some people insist on saying this shit anytime people discuss upcoming changes. It's an insight into what they are planning to change so now is the time to talk about it not, rest assured if we don't talk about it now the changes will go through unchanged at which stage it will be much harder to see it changed, and there is a patch planned just a few weeks away, so just holding your peace "because its a beta!" seems really silly. Plus, it's just discussion, and very relevant to the character. Not adding anything by telling people it's a beta, we know that, doesn't make the proposed changes any less intentended
Did they remove the OS from B2? Does it jail to gotcha grab?
Nope. B2 still option selects.
Well that's ass if they made it -10
Still better than spending a bar and being right in your opponent's face at -17 is it not? lol (at least in Wrestler)
Actually no. Remove the OS and u have tons of options. Example in hw, u can make it safe with law and/or continue pressuring. In PU and wrestler u can try to go energy wave for +frames or gotcha for safety and maybe continue pressure. Only a fool would go always bf2d after the overhead if the os is removed. Being -10 its punishable by the whole cast I think. U don't think its bad? It is bad if its -10 and the OS stays
Yeah that -10 F2 Kotal has sure leaves him fucked against everyone doesn't it?
If someone doesn't punish it coz its "hard" in online, doesn't mean that good players can't punish it offline. And punish doesn't have to be 20% combo or that. Even d4 or moves like that they give u nice +frames. And its rly not that hard to punish.. And we all know that kotals moves have these wierd blockstun that makes them harder to punish so I would not bring him to this conversation
I'm not talking about the blockstun or online, it's entirely possible that everyone would have a way to full combo punish point blank at -10, but there are some distances where the knockback make it that things that are able to punish whiff, or not reach in time while he's still in recovery, meaning you literally cannot punish.
U mean HW's LAWcancels? It builds meter,meterless corner carry combos,makes stuff safe and u can choose to continue pressure with it. Yes and also hitconfirming.
