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Wigy

Wigy

There it is...
Slips said:
Fucking garbage? It does pretty well against nearly all jk's and downward jp's. All other jp's get low profiled by d4. Sure maybe it's not Jax end all be all of uppercuts but his AA's are fine in comparison to Cassie's from what I can tell.



Thanks for actually putting together an argument as opposed to just talking shit. You might be right on the 50/50 thing. You're right on faster pokes and better punishers too. The others I think is a wash with her tools vs. Johnny's. Damage evens out. JC's 8% projectile is good for counter zoning. Both have great armor.

Anyway I thought it's a discussion worth talking about and giving some thought whether people agree or not.

And to both of you, no I don't play JC. I play against him though and I know his tools. I didn't know asking a question and presenting an argument brought on suspicion and interrogation here so I'll be sure never to do that again. I apologize.
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Wasn't meaning to interrogate bud.
Its a discussion thread was just wanting to discuss. I was asking if you played him as a genuine question not a snide remark.

Considering you are a respected member of the community if you go around saying this stuff unchallenged especially when you say you don't play JC that is arguably wrong its going to spread misinformation.

Its hard to compare the two cause although they're both rushdown they rely on different tools and play differently.
 
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Dankster Morgan

Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
I feel like there should be an A- for Goro, Kano, Ermac, and Mileena. And an S- for Predator, Shinnok, Jax, Cassie, and D'Vorah. I woulda put Tremor in A+ I don't see how he's better than Reptile, Takeda, Cage, or even Sonya, Sub, Erron, or Liu Kang for that matter.
 
Lt. Boxy Angelman

Lt. Boxy Angelman

I WILL EAT THIS GAME
The only things I could possibly question would be to move Ermac and Jason up a step, but I know my vision may be cloudy due to being strictly online. I don't think Mac is shaky enough to be bottom 5, at least not in MoS. And I still think Slasher Jason will prove himself better over time than anyone gives him credit for, but the character himself is definitely a fish if fish definitively exist in this game.
That aside, I completely agree with this.
 
JTB123

JTB123

>>R2 - BF4 = Unblockable.
HoneyBee said:
Will sektor/cyrax/smoke be treated as separate characters tier wise or will they all be classified as "robot character"?
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I suppose you could rate them as one character but we'll have to wait until they drop. If we're going on the assumption that we're getting Cyrax, Sektor and Smoke then it's relatively safe to assume bombs, missiles and smoke bombs (and possibly uppercut as Sketor and Smoke could share this move) are going to make those variations play extremely different from one antother.

Wouldn't be surprised if they all have strings that compliment their unique variation specials either so who knows.
 
Jack Ashe

Jack Ashe

Jaded
DarkFire* said:
IMO she is most certainly S Tier right now lol.

- safe armored wake up that can lead into pressure
- forces YOU to guess when you try to oki her
- b1 2+4 starts with a 9f mid/OH, has great range, and is safe on block
- solid projectile (on hit when MB'd can lead into a full combo/pressure from full screen)
- can delay rekkas to either make herself safe/+, if she guesses you're gonna press buttons to get out of her pressure, she MB rekkas right through your sh!t or just blocks and punishes lol
- great footsies with f2/b1
- though unsafe, she many mix-ups/50-50's

I def don't see why she would not be on the same level as the other S Tiers with all this and more lol :p
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I really don't see it

-1 safe armored wake up that can be baited, also Tonfa swipe/tonfa swipe is -5 and that won't start any "pressure" on block, and if she goes for the third tonfa swip without a hole she's vary unsafe and with the hole you can Backdash/Armor.

-Forces you to guess what?? lol a -25 on block/0 on hit OH or a -36 on block Low that only leads into around 27% that only ends with +4 hard knockdown

-I'll give you that.

-Ok projectile* she can not get a combo from full screen on hit, and if you're getting hit by full screen EX Tonfa toss you're doing something wrong, Vice versa if tanya is throwing away her meter on full screen EX tonfa toss their doing something wrong... That shit can be ducked

-If she delays rekkas you can either Backdash/Armor, Yah again on block she has no "Pressure" off EX rekkas.

-Fair enough.

Yah UNSAFE! with little to no reward on hit.

Yah she isn't S tier.. not if you sit down and look at her "Options":coffee:
 
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Rican1823

Rican1823

Burn Fool!
DarkFire* said:
IMO she is most certainly S Tier right now lol.

- safe armored wake up that can lead into pressure
- forces YOU to guess when you try to oki her
- b1 2+4 starts with a 9f mid/OH, has great range, and is safe on block
- solid projectile (on hit when MB'd can lead into a full combo/pressure from full screen)
- can delay rekkas to either make herself safe/+, if she guesses you're gonna press buttons to get out of her pressure, she MB rekkas right through your sh!t or just blocks and punishes lol
- great footsies with f2/b1
- though unsafe, she many mix-ups/50-50's

I def don't see why she would not be on the same level as the other S Tiers with all this and more lol :p
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LOL girl what? First of all Tanya is not necessarily bad but she is definitely not S tier and anyone who says so is too stubborn to press training mode and see the 1 trillion options you have against her OK let me explain how Tanya has no options her 50/50 wake ups are unsafe and full combo punishable and high risk low reward so anyone using that needs to reevaluate their gaming career. Her mb tonfa swipe like any wakeuo can be baited and if she does two swipes she's -4 and if she goes for a 3rd she creates an armorable hole and a back dash opportunity. Tonfa swipes on hit you can back dash out of mb tonfa toss can be low profiled almost always and even if u don't low profile it you can back dash after it returns. Her "pressure" is not existent cause you can poke or armor or dash out of her teleport cancels. Her delayed tinfa swipes have huge holes in them and sometime delaying them slightly gives it a hole which u can armor out of or back dash out of and get a whiff punish. and even if u don't delay and mb burn the last part of tonfa swipe it sometimes can be low profiled And lord knows the bitch can't anti air for shit besides down 2 which is very inconsistent. Her only true option is to threaten a mb tonfa swipe and even then if blocked she can't do much with it. But I bet no one knew any of that cause everyone is in the delusion that she's impossible to beat
 
YoloRoll1stHit

YoloRoll1stHit

Publicly Educated
Jack Ashe said:
I really don't see it

-1 safe armored wake up that can be baited, also Tonfa swipe/tonfa swipe is -5 and that won't start any "pressure" on block, and if she goes for the third tonfa swip without a hole she's vary unsafe and with the hole you can Backdash/Armor.

-Forces you to guess what?? lol a -25 on block/0 on hit OH or a -36 on block Low that only leads into around 27% that only ends with +4 hard knockdown

-I'll give you that.

-Ok projectile* she can not get a combo from full screen on hit, and if you're getting hit by full screen EX Tonfa toss you're doing something wrong, Vice versa if tanya is throwing away her meter on full screen EX tonfa toss their doing something wrong... That shit can be ducked

-If she delays rekkas you can either Backdash/Armor, Yah again on block she has no "Pressure" off EX rekkas.

-Fair enough.

Yah UNSAFE! with little to no reward on hit.

Yah she isn't S tier.. not if you sit down and look at her "Options":coffee:
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If you bait her armor she can wake up B1/D1 out of pressure for free (lol right? yes because you hesitate to pressure her on wake up she can do whatever she wants). That's how a safe armor works, it's not like "I have a safe armor so I'm gonna use it every single time". Having a safe armor is a huge deal in this game
Tonfa guessing game is in HER favor. She can stop at 2nd (after delaying) if you back dash or armor she can chase that down to punish. And if you try to back dash/armor through her tonfa she can just do the gapless tonfa and mb at the 3rd hit to be safe and blow up your attempt. The problem is you can't tell if her tonfa is delayed or not, until she already did it. Thing like "if she delays rekkas you can either back dash/armor" doesn't happen. You have to guess. Unless you are Kung Lao or Cassie, everyone else loses the guessing game to Tanya.
And her oh/low reversal is just a bonus to everything else she has. She only uses them she she wants to yolo. Who has 50/50 on wakeup? (adding wakeup throw and wakeup tonfa it's very unlikely that you guess right and punish her next YOLO attempt). She can stays safe forever.
And finally, do you realize how much chip her df2 does on block?
 
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