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Strategy - Hunter Hunter gets castrated cause of HQT.

GAV

Resolution through knowledge and resolve.
Hunter was fine except too much dmg. But why the fuck is 3 a high. Yes, HQT only did 32 low laser for easy broken pressure. But now where does hunter stand in mix. How the hell u going trade against someone without a fair mid. 212 blows its unsafe. The rest of the mids are way too slow. This change may make HQT fair but I think there is no reason to play hunter or war. If I'm missing something I'll apologize real fast but someone helpe out here
Hunter was way more broken than HQT.
 

TamedLizard

Buff George
I can relate to Forever King cause I picked up Erron Black since I seen his reveal. I just love the theme of his character. Then it turns out he's god tier as fuck.
I actually was very hesitant with Black in general, pre-release. Wasn't sold on the cowboy motif and hadn't really seen anything special about him in the comics.

Nearly 6 months later...he's my secondary "main". Just goes to show you never know what to expect from a character's gameplay until you can physically get your hands on them.

Looking at you, Bo h8as.
 

SLH7671

When in doubt, armor out.
I actually was very hesitant with Black in general, pre-release. Wasn't sold on the cowboy motif and hadn't really seen anything special about him in the comics.

Nearly 6 months later...he's my secondary "main". Just goes to show you never know what to expect from a character's gameplay until you can physically get your hands on them.

Looking at you, Bo h8as.
Of course I'm the kid who was raised by his grandparents in a one horse town and watched Gunsmoke a couple hundred times. Lol
 

juicepouch

blink-182 enthusiast
this downplay 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I GOT HANDS

Official Infrared Scorp wid gapless Wi-Fi pressure
Do warrior players even excist? Maybe in anothe parralel universum where he actually is viable
I really enjoy him

Maybe more would exist if he wasnt so much weaker than the other 2 variations. Turn them down a notch or turn him up
 

16 Bit

Mash d+1~Cat Claws
Premium Supporter
NetherRealm Studios
If you say so. Contrary to popular belief, I don't tier whore as much as you guys think. My mains since day 1 of MKX were Kung Lao and Kung Jin, my favorite characters. They just so happened to be good. You can't say I don't like them and only tier whore, because Kung Lao is my main in basically every MK he's in and I used Kung Jin at Fatal 8 before anyone knew anything about tiers.

Then Predator is just awesome, his dash cancels are super fun. So I'm not necessarily tier whoring, I am using great characters but they just so happened to be characters that I like and be really good. I got lucky

Did you stumble on the character select and accidentally choose Kenshi and Aquaman against me?
 

ForeverKing

Patreon.com/MK_ForeverKing

Did you stumble on the character select and accidentally choose Kenshi and Aquaman against me?
Well those weren't my mains, I barely ever used them in tournament ever except vs you and maybe like 1 or 2 other people.

I was talking about my mains, the characters I use the most in tournament ie Batman Kung Lao Kung Jin ect.
 

SaSSolino

Soul Stealing Loyalist
Don't try to call out one of the best MK players for being a tier whore when you yourself play top tier characters like Quan Chi and Shinnok. That's the very definition of something that people should get called out and blown up for.
I'm pretty sure the delicious irony is so obvious, more people than just the two of us came to that conclusion on our very own. Tacky and I apparently just like stirring the pot. If you weren't the salty party, you'd probably even be calling BS on yourself, or someone in a similar position. Say... if Forever King was calling someone out for being a tier whore. :rolleyes:

PROTIP: Cute GIFs don't make you look like less of hypocritical idiot when you were just outed.
your point would be valid if I actually was a tier whore, so please tell me how post patch shinnok is top tier.
 

I GOT HANDS

Official Infrared Scorp wid gapless Wi-Fi pressure
why not? hard to blockables are stupid man.
I'm with you on that man, I like Quan but I couldn't take any enjoyment from playing like that, win or lose... To me that's the best reason you could have for not playing a variation, this game is meant to be fun, I like when people take the attitude of playing the character they enjoy the most instead of the "strongest", hence why I play Hat Trick Lao lol
 

TackyHaddock

Salty Mashers Krew
your point would be valid if I actually was a tier whore, so please tell me how post patch shinnok is top tier.
Lol, I saw you talking shit to forever king in threads before the patch too, just stop.

It is important to recognize when an argument is lost, and just let it go :)
 

SaSSolino

Soul Stealing Loyalist
Lol, I saw you talking shit to forever king in threads before the patch too, just stop.

It's important to recognize when an argument is lost, and just let it go :)
why are you trying to avoid giving me an answer? the argument doesn't look that lost to me.
 

TackyHaddock

Salty Mashers Krew
why are you trying to avoid giving me an answer? the argument doesn't look that lost to me.
you were hypocritically calling Forever King a tier whore before the patch also (before Shinnok was nerfed), so your desperate attempt to now suggest that you are not a hypocrite because Shinnok was patched last week is a bunch of bull :)
 

SaSSolino

Soul Stealing Loyalist
you were hypocritically calling Forever King a tier whore before the patch also (before Shinnok was nerfed), so your desperate attempt to now suggest that you are not a hypocrite because Shinnok was patched last week is a bunch of bull :)
no it isn't, because he is still my main now. but yo, if you really want to talk before the patch, check out witch variation is in the mood chooser bruh, doesn't look like bone shaper to me. you said it yourself: "It is important to recognize when an argument is lost, and just let it go :)", you were kind of right. :)

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