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General/Other - Cutthroat Kano's Cutthroat Variation Discussion Thread

HuttonMD

HuttonMD

ADM Riddles
SaltShaker said:
You hear how that sounds right? While almost rushdown or 50/50 character in the game can combo for near or at 1 bar 40% and pressure you with 50/50's or mixups directly after, Cutt Kano has to land 40%, and then hurry up to cut off his buff before he loses too much damage and killing all his pressure and momentum in the process.

Honestly think the old combos would be a better trade off than EX Buff cancel after this.
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Yea since you can't run in after the knockdown because you have to turn the buff off they can get up for free or you run in pressure again and loose the life.

Idk I guess we will have to see how it goes but I'm definitely disappointed
 
VoyagersRevenge

VoyagersRevenge

AUGMENTED
HuttonMD said:
Man I'm torn on this lol I'll have to mess around with it tmrw but ending in kano ball and turning the buff off midscreen will probably only loose you a little bit of life
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It does.. Thats a must now or else we die for doing what kung lao does for free smh lmao. I JUST HOPE CYBERNETIC NEVER GETS TOUCHED AGAIN. The roster is slowly losing their filth.
 
SaltShaker

SaltShaker

In Zoning We Trust
HuttonMD said:
Man I'm torn on this lol I'll have to mess around with it tmrw but ending in kano ball and turning the buff off midscreen will probably only loose you a little bit of life
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Yea say you do a 40% B12~EX combo, but lose 5% during the DoT before you turn it off. That means in reality you did a momentum killing 35% combo. With that, you could have done a 35% B12~EX DB1 combo and actually been able to pressure their WU after Kano Ball ender. Why would EX Buff combo be the preferred option mid screen unless you were trying to close out a round or go for a 2 bar combo?

They turned EX Buff into situational combo territory.
 
HuttonMD

HuttonMD

ADM Riddles
I guess midscreen the old way is the best way to and once you get them to corner the exbuff combos for the bigger damage might be worth it but you have to still have to either give up the corner pressure turning it off or take the chance for another 50/50.
In the corner I get it because its a risk/reward thing but at least you can get good damage off of corner combos without the buff to.

The ruthless mercenary has to play fair but the good guys get to be dirty
 
SaltShaker

SaltShaker

In Zoning We Trust
HuttonMD said:
I guess midscreen the old way is the best way to and once you get them to corner the exbuff combos for the bigger damage might be worth it but you have to still have to either give up the corner pressure turning it off or take the chance for another 50/50.
In the corner I get it because its a risk/reward thing but at least you can get good damage off of corner combos without the buff to.

The ruthless mercenary has to play fair but the good guys get to be dirty
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If it never was buffed to begin with it wouldn't feel as bad. I'd be upset that the character wasn't taken care of, but this here is like winning the lottery only to be told that they ran out of money to give you so you go home broke.
 
EntropicByDesign

EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
Ok.. So where does this variation stand now? Aside from the 'who the fuck knows' of the current PunchYourselfInTheFaceToDoDamageOthersGetForFree ability, didnt he get some strings adjusted?
 
bdizzle2700

bdizzle2700

gotta stay sharp!
EntropicByDesign said:
Ok.. So where does this variation stand now? Aside from the 'who the fuck knows' of the current PunchYourselfInTheFaceToDoDamageOthersGetForFree ability, didnt he get some strings adjusted?
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If he did its pretty subtle. @MsMiharo posted a vid of strings still wiffing on scorpion. Earlier in a match i did f4 eyelaser at max range it wiffed. So maybe its more consistant but idk haha
 
EntropicByDesign

EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
Gotcha. I was grasping for an upside.. I REALLLLLLY wanted this patch to bring me back to MKX. Im becoming entirely too damn good at Decapre in SFIV. The buffs to Venemous D'Vorah look good, maybe she can rekindle my interest, but I was hanging my hopes on Kano. Honestly, I feel like what he had before the hotfix was too much (on paper, we never had a chance to see how it fleshed out in real play) but of the several reasonable ways they could have changed it.. they find a pretty unreasonable way.

It would be different if other cast members couldn't do exactly what he can do, but not have to LITERALLY bleed for it. I'm a newb to fighting games, and Im hoping my newbishness is causing me to not see potential.. buuuttt, whatevs.
 
FlappyDaniel

FlappyDaniel

Snappin' spines all day e'ry day.
They make a mistake, then they quick make an even bigger mistake to try and cover up the overbuffing they did to the dude's already strongest variation. They boast all this involvement and awareness but they don't seem to know the state of their game at all lol.
 
EntropicByDesign

EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
So.. Does PC not have the hotfix or am I missing something? Just messing around in the lab in CT and my EX-buff isnt draining any health? Hell, does PC even have the original patch? I had a largish download when I checked Tuesday and assumed that was the patch.. Shrug.
 
SaltShaker

SaltShaker

In Zoning We Trust
EntropicByDesign said:
So.. Does PC not have the hotfix or am I missing something? Just messing around in the lab in CT and my EX-buff isnt draining any health? Hell, does PC even have the original patch? I had a largish download when I checked Tuesday and assumed that was the patch.. Shrug.
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Hold on to that memory, the memory of when EX Buff was amazing. Cherish it, for it shall be gone within the blink of an eye.
 
EntropicByDesign

EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
Haha. I guess Im going to give Commando a shot. I need to dig up some BnB's. I'm just not feeling Cyber, so Im still hanging my hat on CT or Commando bringing me back to MKX.
 
Johnny Cat

Johnny Cat

Noob
Ummm i see some of you are complaining. You guys do realize that "insta ex buff activation" is a HUGE BUFF that will make him A+ tier right? Kano already has GREAT footsies pokes anti zoning tools also builds meter so quickly and now he has hitconfirm into 1 meter %40+damage + damage buff still active for period of time. I dont understand how some of you says he is trash now. This BUFF was the reason for me to pick Kano as my 2nd main. The BUFF was so huge i have to type it like that everytime. Casuals pls dont talk about buff/nerfs because talking without understanding what is good and bad makes you look stupid.

I see some of you complaining about him losing %50 damage buff. LOLLOLOLOLOL. If a character was good because he dealt good damage pros would play kotal blood god every time. Also, before he had to activate the buff wasting meter then hope to hit enemy without getting hit. Now he doesnt need to hope because you are hitconfirming it so there is nothing enemy can do besides breaking. Which is always good for you.
 
Derptile

Derptile

RIP Ex Smash
Johnny Cat said:
Ummm i see some of you are complaining. You guys do realize that "insta ex buff activation" is a HUGE BUFF that will make him A+ tier right? Kano already has GREAT footsies pokes anti zoning tools also builds meter so quickly and now he has hitconfirm into 1 meter %40+damage + damage buff still active for period of time. I dont understand how some of you says he is trash now. This BUFF was the reason for me to pick Kano as my 2nd main. The BUFF was so huge i have to type it like that everytime. Casuals pls dont talk about buff/nerfs because talking without understanding what is good and bad makes you look stupid.

I see some of you complaining about him losing %50 damage buff. LOLLOLOLOLOL. If a character was good because he dealt good damage pros would play kotal blood god every time. Also, before he had to activate the buff wasting meter then hope to hit enemy without getting hit. Now he doesnt need to hope because you are hitconfirming it so there is nothing enemy can do besides breaking. Which is always good for you.
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Bad player confirmed.
 
Johnny Cat

Johnny Cat

Noob
Dude, being able to connect every string into %40 combo is alot better that prepatch garbage. Also if you read that which is what i just posted...
Johnny Cat said:
I see some of you complaining about him losing %50 damage buff. LOLLOLOLOLOL. If a character was good because he dealt good damage pros would play kotal blood god every time. Also, before he had to activate the buff wasting meter then hope to hit enemy without getting hit. Now he doesnt need to hope because you are hitconfirming it so there is nothing enemy can do besides breaking. Which is always good for you.
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G

Gofer_MK_

Banned
I prefered it as a punish tool, to take hit on the armor and punish to end a round or something, now it is a waste of a bar.

Btw. No one is unhappy about the dmg scale... we are unhappy because it has DOT (it should be one or the other, not both) and no armor (at lest I am).
 
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