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Post-Tremor Patch - Wishful Thinking

Desperdicio

Tell me, do you bleed?
"Ferra Torr fast" please stop now, its the biggest hurtbox in the game and worst walk and run speed. Overhead is over 20 frames start up and even slower in Lackey so that's just wrong and it's not a 50-50. I already know you can armor the overhead string but you can't back dash it because of how far he advances forward during it, it catches all backdashes, so I am forced to use meter, great. And I have played Erron Black plenty of times and yes he does have mix ups from half screen all of which leave him in a grab immune state so I can't armored command grab him out of them, he has the overhead string, overhead drop kick, low slide, and low sand balls. You clearly don't know anything about Ferra Torr either so stop trying to act like FT is Erron Black tier because that is the biggest heap of bullshit I've heard. NJP is used on a read with them because of how slow it is even with its reach. Id rather have Outlaw Erron blacks instant sward NJP that hits people below him too over the slow Ferra one any day
So now an overhead string and a very reactable and punishable slide are excellent mix-ups, ha ha! I never said Ferra/Torr was Erron Black's tier, but he doesn't need to switch places with him. If you'd rather have Erron Black's moves, why not pick him up instead of going after my nuts? If you want a top tier character, this game has over ten, so you have plenty to choose. If not, stop asking for nerfs and be a true loyalist.
 
Buff tremor jason and predator so that they are not tremor jason and predator and are mk characters instead.

Then fix the fucking xbox connection problem, which should be the primary focus of everyone.
 

Phosferrax

Original Liu Kang cop.
So now an overhead string and a very reactable and punishable slide are excellent mix-ups, ha ha! I never said Ferra/Torr was Erron Black's tier, but he doesn't need to switch places with him. If you'd rather have Erron Black's moves, why not pick him up instead of going after my nuts? If you want a top tier character, this game has over ten, so you have plenty to choose. If not, stop asking for nerfs and be a true loyalist.
17f is very reactable he says...
 

lm Tweakk

#BuffAntiAirs
Oh right thought it was Tremor changes. My bad. Alright then.

Tanya:
F4 cancel advantage actually valid, can be cancelled into all specials. (Up from not being able to combo at all)
B312 only has one gap (down from two)
NJP 5 frames since she was supposed to be airborne but everybody beats her njp. (down from 7)
In conjunction with the change as to how her teleport behaves, her air and MeterBurn specials adjusted:
MB Drill safe on block. 8 more recovery frames on whiff. Startup frames are the same.
MB Drill (Air) +14 on block, 8 more recovery frames on whiff. Startup frames are the same.
Drill (Air) +2 on block, 12 more recovery frames on whiff. Startup frames are the same.
Split (Air) safe on block, 12 more recovery frames on whiff. Startup frames are the same.
MB Split safe on block. 8 more recovery frames on whiff. Startup frames are the same.
MB Split (Air) +14 on block, 8 more recovery frames on whiff. Startup frames are the same.
MB Shroud +8 on block again. Startup frames are the same.
She can still be poked / armored out of most things she can do.
Are you shitting me
 

imblackjames

Ive seen the leprechaun
I think mos raiden meeds his trap to be mid.

H.T. jacqui should be able to rc twice from her special move (db2 i think it is)

Ruthless ft needs pain and gain to give a better damage boost.

Unstoppable jasons health gain to recover more health

Thats all i can think of nowvto be helpful for sone of the worse characters in the game
 

haketh

Noob
Well than, I'll let the game settle in order to justify the fact hat some folks just get to have the raw deal because they couldn't cry as loud as the Kenshi and Kitana mains.

I respect your stance on the issue, but it does feel a bit dismissive.
That's because it is, all this begging for buffs and fixes before we really get down to the nitty gritty is fucking obnoxisou
 

ando1184

Noob
Please make FT's B121 actually hit fucking mid it is their main pressure string and it whiffs high on half the cast or more. Also if they want to go ahead and make the third hit 0 on block again since they nerfed it to -3 because it apparently caused so many problems to other characters that would be great. Also remove grab immunity from the game unless people are airborne.

Also Erron Black is absolutely retarded and it baffles me that some people think he is not even top 10, best run speed in the game, halfscreen overhead to low, 21122 best string in the game as its a 5 hit mid block string to give him meter and advances him forward so you can't backdash it or his overhead to low, anti airs, three middle hits are all tick throws, command grab gives him the most tick throw options of any grappler alongside all his mix ups with lows and overheads, EX sandball gets you jumping out of tick throws or makes him plus on block, command grab can be meter burned after confirming it on hit he doesn't have to commit to an EX grab for extra damage like the other grapplers, and he has caltrops for damage over time that also stop people from running in on him and can actually kill you.

Oh and that's not including anything he gets in his variations. This character needs to be looked at, he has way too many options that are better than the options other people have that are their main tools.
Thank you!!!!! FINALLY, someone sees Erron Black for what he is. My fingers are crossed too man. EB needs nerfs bad with all the mixup tools he has. I honestly believe if 21122 wasn't special cancelable after the third hit, it would allow us to deal with him better. I mean he's already getting the meter gain and 21122 on block is safe to begin with.
 
I only ask for 2 things and they arent really buffs...Can they please not make erron black's grab -8 on hit like wtf....Also can they make the stun arrow for Ancestral not go away after 5-6 seconds. All i ask is that it stays blue until you shoot it, not even asking for it to actually connect. I think those two changes are fair right?
 

gam224

The world's least hype player
Both kitana and Kotal khan get decreased start up on their over heads. No character should have to wait 24 frames for an overhead.
 

D_Matt_Ma

Sheeva isn't Goro's wife. Goro is her husband.
Goro buff... since no one plays him and therefore whines enough to NRS for them to care. I can't believe we have anyone in here asking for lao buffs and no one asking for kitana nerfs. The NRS only cares about fan boys is real here
 

Fallen_sektor

I will show no mercy
please fix skydrop, i know quan is top hoe tier i KNOW, but skydrop keeps whiffing for no reason, dont make it safe, dont give him anything, i just hate with a passion seeing my only way out whiff and get full punished for reading my opponents jumps, just fix his hitbox, hell even give him more recovery frames but make the damn tele work for a change
 

Vilén

too smart to play MKX
30-40% reduction on Displacer Raiden's teleport recoveries, and get rid of the stamina cost. That shit's just stupid. Really I'd like it if both of his non-Thunder God variations were actually capable of doing what they're supposed to do.

I'd actually play this game again if Displacer was usable. Seriously, this character is the only one completely designed around teleporting. And he has objectively the shittiest teleport in the game.

And they haven't even attempted to fix this shit.