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Pre Evo Salt Report

Which Character will induce the most salt at Evo?

  • Cassie Cage

  • D'Vorah

  • Ermac

  • Erron Black

  • Ferra/Torr

  • Goro

  • Jacqui Briggs

  • Jason

  • Jax

  • Johnny Cage

  • Kano

  • Kenshi

  • Kitana

  • Kotal Kahn

  • Kung Jin

  • Kung Lao

  • Liu Kang

  • Mileena

  • Quan Chi

  • Raiden

  • Reptile

  • Scorpion

  • Shinnok

  • Sonya

  • Sub-Zero

  • Takeda

  • Tanya


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SaltShaker

In Zoning We Trust
Maybe your right, there is very little competitive showing for Kano. Just that your reasoning behind it wasn't very sound, because if people are picking Takeda and Reptile even though they are bad, why aren't they picking Kano? Makes me think Kano isn't lacking in showing because he needs buffs but possibly for other reasons.

Do you really think Kano would get demolished that hard in a match against some of the higher tier characters, if both were being played by equally skilled players? (not saying they wouldn't, just asking, you know the character better than me)

I haven't actually seen any real quality Kano matches to judge lol



Also, I'm a Kung Lao player now :cool: #buffKungLao
If both players are equally skilled, and know each other's MU well, without a doubt I think most of the Top 15 is skating away in a tourney match or a FT10 or FT20. Once you know how to stop Cyber/Commando there isn't really much else to worry about with the top or high tiers. The lack of representation and MU Exp makes him seem better as well since people don't know just how easy it is to shut him down outside of Cutt. There's no tricks, no "dirt", just learn what to wait for, forever block low for an entire match, and blow him up for full combos lol. Rushdown characters like Lao can just overwhelm Kano and there's not much he can do. Jax and D'Vorah can beat him at his own game for devastating damage. Kenshi and Shinnok can outzone him. Etc lol. He doesn't do anything better than anyone in the Top 15. He either does something as good or worse than what their strength is, and that is his #1 problem. Like this example.

-In Cyber Kano has weak pressure, so he wants to zone Jax, but his zoning is so weak in this MU that he can't zone Jax out, and the pressure is massive once he's in. DisAdv MU. Now switch it and place Shinnok. In this MU Kano wants to pressure Shinnok, but Shinnok's footsies and zoning capabilities are so strong that Kano cannot get in easy at all and gets outzoned when attempting it. Tough MU.

This is the problem. Almost everyone can rushdown better, most the zoners zone better, no real mixups, non existent Cyber oki, non existent Cyber/Comm damage, etc. No real strengths which makes battles against most "strong" characters uphill.

Cutthroat likely can hold his own against at least half of them though, and I'd go as far to say that Cutthroat alone is a true "strong mid tier" character. Buffing it would possibly be too much. It just seems that everyone jumped off the boat to bigger things before they got around to exploring Cutthroat properly.

And yea I took your guide to practice mode a couple of hours ago. Literally peaked my interest in Hat Trick.
 

I GOT HANDS

Official Infrared Scorp wid gapless Wi-Fi pressure
Yeah, I think you may have hit the nail on the head. Kano is a very well rounded character, almost the "Shoto" of MKX. But in practice, I could kinda see how that means he loses the zoning war to better zoners and loses the footsies to better brawlers. And as you said, I think Cutthroat is in a good place, there is a lot of potential with that character in good hands. The other two might need a little something just so they aren't just "passable at everything".


And glad you liked my Hat Trick guide :cool: still a work in progress but its running on schedule
 
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SaltShaker

In Zoning We Trust
Yeah, I think you may have hit the nail on the head. Kano is a very well round character, almost the "Shoto" of MKX. But in practice, I could kinda see how that means he loses the zoning war to better zoners and loses the footsies to better brawlers. And as you said, I think Cutthroat is in a good place, there is a lot of potential with that character in good hands.


And glad you liked my Hat Trick guide :cool: still a work in progress but its running on schedule
Yea I agree with that. The bootleg Ryu haha. Cutthroat is the last hope. It'll be a later bloomer, I'm almost sure of it.

Yea it's really good. I've looked at hat trick off and on since release as I didn't like the other two variations, but your guide threw me into the lab and I'm liking what I've practiced so far. If I start playin him I'll let you know lol!
 

I GOT HANDS

Official Infrared Scorp wid gapless Wi-Fi pressure
The hell is @SaltShaker and @I GOT HANDS doing being all buddy buddy and listening to each other's opinions. Even giving thanks. THIS IS A SALT THREAD!!! I WANT TO SEE DUMB ILLOGICAL ARGUMENTS AND CRIES FOR A BETTER CHARACTER DAMMIT!!!! You were doing so good salt. What happened???
Nah we tried being enemies but he just too damn on point most the time, not much point in trying to disagree with a guy when everytime you enter a random thread and wanna say something he's already beat you it and said exactly what you were thinking



P.S. This ain't a thread for salt, the rest of the forums are the threads for salt, this is the one where it all gets compiled and we all put all monocles in and sit around and reasonably discuss it like gentlemen
 

buyacushun

Normalize grab immunity.
Nah we tried being enemies but he just too damn on point most the time, not much point in trying to disagree with a guy when everytime you enter a random thread and wanna say something he's already beat you it and said exactly what you were thinking



P.S. This ain't a thread for salt, the rest of the forums are the threads for salt, this is the one where it all gets compiled and we all put all monocles in and sit around and reasonably discuss it like gentlemen
So I guess you guys realized you're actually more alike than you thought? /watch?v=2o7V1f7lbk4

So this is our reverse "The Purge" thread? I never thought about it like that. I guess . . . . everyone is a teacher . . . in life? . . . or . . . that the biggest surprises . . . .come with cake . . . and gravy? Yeah buttered toast and gravy.
 

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
Even though i have left The Black Dragon for The Brotherhood of Shadow, i think that Cutthroat is a tournament viable variation.

It has great footsies, damage, a 50/50 and a great advancing string in f212 that can be made plus after the first two hits with meter.

In fact, I'm strongly considering using Cutthroat as an alt for Quan's less than fun match ups.

Play Cutthroat.
 

RunwayMafia

Shoot them. Shoot them all.
Even though i have left The Black Dragon for The Brotherhood of Shadow, i think that Cutthroat is a tournament viable variation.

It has great footsies, damage, a 50/50 and a great advancing string in f212 that can be made plus after the first two hits with meter.

In fact, I'm strongly considering using Cutthroat as an alt for Quan's less than fun match ups.

Play Cutthroat.
I actually strongly agree with this. People need to play @GAMETIME 's cutthroat...my god. Put Kano in the hands of a fundamentally strong/smart player and voila, the veil will be lifted.

I trust @SaltShaker 's opinion on everything Cybernetic, but Cutthroat is where it's at!
 

SaltShaker

In Zoning We Trust
I actually strongly agree with this. People need to play @GAMETIME 's cutthroat...my god. Put Kano in the hands of a fundamentally strong/smart player and voila, the veil will be lifted.

I trust @SaltShaker 's opinion on everything Cybernetic, but Cutthroat is where it's at!
I think I remember GameTime but I'm not sure. I think I played a few sets with him a while back on PS4 in Injustice and he was using Shazam? Not sure if it's the same guy but I remember someone I played a few times with a similar name that was pretty good.
 

RunwayMafia

Shoot them. Shoot them all.
I think I remember GameTime but I'm not sure. I think I played a few sets with him a while back on PS4 in Injustice and he was using Shazam? Not sure if it's the same guy but I remember someone I played a few times with a similar name that was pretty good.
Yes. I've known him and have played him since MK9. VERY VERY fundamental/footsies strong player. He would wreck shop if he traveled more.

He is also incredibly smart simply due to the fact that he agrees with me on my character being unjustly overnerfed...
;) ;) ;) ;( ;) ;) ;)
 

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
I think I remember GameTime but I'm not sure. I think I played a few sets with him a while back on PS4 in Injustice and he was using Shazam? Not sure if it's the same guy but I remember someone I played a few times with a similar name that was pretty good.
Just wait until he can start traveling.

Kano of the US in the making.
 

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
Yes. I've known him and have played him since MK9. VERY VERY fundamental/footsies strong player. He would wreck shop if he traveled more.

He is also incredibly smart simply due to the fact that he agrees with me on my character being unjustly overnerfed...
;) ;) ;) ;( ;) ;) ;)
You
You would also like playing another one of our guys who just started playing online, by the tag of GOL Eklectic. He's every bit as good with Sub as Gametime is with Kano.

This is now officially the Pump Up The Louisiana Players thread.
 

RunwayMafia

Shoot them. Shoot them all.
You
You would also like playing another one of our guys who just started playing online, by the tag of GOL Eklectic. He's every bit as good with Sub as Gametime is with Kano.

This is now officially the Pump Up The Louisiana Players thread.
Eklectic actually added me a few weeks ago per Gametime's recommendation and he is now enduring the tyranny of my Tanya. ;) ;)

Hehe. But yeah, he is very good and quite handsome.
 

Skylight1

Warrior
Finally the Salt Report has returned! I was wondering what happened to these. No better way than to see the saltiness than these reports. A game that induces this much salt needs the Salt Report.

After all, it is a more effective display than playing with Cyber/Commando Kano. :coffee:
I think I love you.....
 

Vilén

too smart to play MKX
You know, a few weeks back I said that by week 12 Hat Trick Lao would be the head of the salt report.