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General/Other - Grandmaster New patch removes Some of SZ corner combo & trapping options

Scoot Magee

But I didn't want to dash
As said in another thread, the scrub mentality on tym is strong. Their strategy for dealing with shit they can't deal with is to cry for nerfs. They applaud when a nerf takes place only to discover they can't deal with something else and they cry more. It's an endless scrub walk down nerf lane.
 

TheIrishFGCguy

Pew pew pew
You're right, because Paulo is paid by NetherRealm and Warner Bros. to take a 17-year-old's opinion on how to patch his game.

It's not like Paulo has a mind of his own and watches gameplay or anything.
You really think they didn't take into account the opinion of the best player in the scene? The player with the biggest reputation in the community? Who happened to just hate Sub Zero and be very vocal about it? I never said that they nerfed Sub based soley based on SonicFox's opinion, I said his input had to have had some influence, and I doubt I'm wrong in saying that.
 

Solid

The Longbow Hunter.
You're right, because Paulo is paid by NetherRealm and Warner Bros. to take a 17-year-old's Twitter opinion on how to patch his game.

Paulo doesn't have a mind of his own and doesn't watch gameplay, he just trolls social media to figure out what changes to make to the game next.
It is not just some 17 year old. It is a 17 year old with a substantial following.
 

Northern Slasher

Heads or Tails X
As said in another thread, the scrub mentality on tym is strong. Their strategy for dealing with shit they can't deal with is to cry for nerfs. They applaud when a nerf takes place only to discover they can't deal with something else and they cry more. It's an endless scrub walk down nerf lane.
Take Tom's advice and level up instead of crying.
 

CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
Administrator
You really think they didn't take into account the opinion of the best player in the scene? Who happened to just hate Sub Zero? I never said that they nerfed Sub based soley based on SonicFox's opinion, I said his input had to have had some influence, and I doubt I'm wrong in saying that.
I really think they didn't. The game designers at NRS don't patch the game based on "the scene" and could probably care less about one player whining on Twitter.

Paulo fixes what he determines needs to be fixed based on the game he designed and how he intended it to be played. I don't think people understand what "Lead Designer" really means.
 

biggabarr

chilling
you are saying all the other char that have a overhead and a low are broken then? ,other than buz saw low hat what other low does lao have across his variations tell me.
am being battered by jax at the moment ,i can hardley get out of corner and when i have him in the corner all he does is stand and blk cause i don't have a low in tempest,see.
 

Northern Slasher

Heads or Tails X
"complaining" that the crying of others got your character nerfed unfairly like in MK9 is not whining. Its saying the other cried prematurely. Again.. people like you do not see ppl crying for nerfs are whiners, you only see those who call out the cry babies as complaining.
It was warranted. The ice clone corner pressure was absolutely ridiculous. Just don't cry and level up and you'll be fine, right Tom?
 

biggabarr

chilling
am being battered by jax at the moment ,i can hardley get out of corner and when i have him in the corner all he does is stand and blk cause i don't have a low in tempest,see.
if am playing him wrong i would like to know how to play him, he is my main from mk9 and rush down seem to be all over for hom.
 

Clark L.

F1 ftw.
you are saying all the other char that have a overhead and a low are broken then? ,other than buz saw low hat what other low does lao have across his variations tell me.
Ugh I'm don't want to derail this thread from its original purpose. No not all chars with overhead and low starters are broke. But if kung lao had one he'd be too good. He's super good already without one. If you were to add the threat of a low starter to big damage along with the other super good tools he has, He would instantly be demanded nerfs.
 

RelentlessOhio

Divekick x 1000
you are saying all the other char that have a overhead and a low are broken then? ,other than buz saw low hat what other low does lao have across his variations tell me.
Your first mistake is playing anything OTHER than Buzz Saw.

Dude you don't need low starters for KL. He's a fucking monster as is. Add me and we can play if you think he needs buffed
 

RelentlessOhio

Divekick x 1000
No we are saying the fucking nerfs were justified and he's still a viable character. And thank you for telling us that important information
 

SonicFox5000

The Best.
You shouldn't be surprised or complaining. According to TYM it's all your fault! :DOGE
Also according to tym i have some sort of agenda im bad and a tweet I made in a conversation I made apparantly got sub nerfed. And Ive also apparantly been complaining all over twitter yet nobody has given me not even a single tweet if me going to Ed or DEMANDING that it gets nerfed. Tym why
 

Solid

The Longbow Hunter.
There's a player with a bigger following preaching that Sub was perfectly fine -- what difference does it make?
If it is the same player that I have in mind... I don't recall him crying for nerfs for other characters. The difference being mindset. One has a negative mindset asking for nerfs. The other more experienced one, willing to let things rock for a bit longer. In any case friend, this is NRS. They give and take away as they see fit.
 

Tokiwartoothxdk

『T R I G G E R E D』
People will learn to play with this, but it was completely unwarrented, You cant tell me if your character got nerfed this hard, you wouldnt at least be a little mad, like Tom.
 

Yinze

"Tell me, do you bleed?...You will."
So a top tier character is still top tier? This was bound to happen anyway. The clone doesnt completly reset while a clone is still out? thats so reasonable. whats the problem
 

biggabarr

chilling
Your first mistake is playing anything OTHER than Buzz Saw.

Dude you don't need low starters for KL. He's a fucking monster as is. Add me and we can play if you think he needs buffed
i like tempest ,even though they took his 4 frames-5-7 frames spin, they did fix his hat recovery, so he has some pretty good mid screen combo now,do you have matches that you played with your lao, that i can see?.