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Juicy IV: Which reportedly 3-7 or worse match ups are a bill?

ForeverKing

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Not at all. I'll tell you why right now:

Flash outdamages Batman
Flash outfootsies Batman
Flash's d2 anti-airs Batman j2 99% of the time
Flash has better mixups then Batman
Flash has better oki then Batman
Flash punishes Batman's slide ON HIT
Flash can shake through all of Batman's zoning and isn't even forced to get in if he doesn't want to

If the Flash player doesn't have the defense of Wound Cowboy and can actually block all of Batman's mixups and react to f3 and trait cancel gimmicks, the matchup is extremely hard for Batman. If the Flash player gets the first hit of the match, and has a 60% life lead on Batman (meaning Batman has 40% of his white bar and Flash has 100% of his white bar still) what is stopping the Flash player from sitting across the stage shaking through all Batman's zoning until time runs out and he wins?

Think about it. If Flash has the life lead and has good defense, he can anti air ALL of Batman's j2's with his d2, block all of Batman's mixups on reaction, and shake through all of Batman's batarangs. How is Batman supposed to make that comeback? It's virtually impossible. Flash can just sit there and block and d2 and shake until the time runs out. Not to mention he outfootsies Batman and if he lands a mixups while playing defensive he takes another 60% out again from Batman
@HoneyBee
 

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
Only on TYM can you say your character is 11th or 12th in the game and be called a downplayer.

Saying a character is NOT Top Ten, but outside of the top ten somehow makes you a downplayer.

How is saying you're outside top ten a BAD THING? A lot of people would like an 11th placed tier character.

This is bizarro land, obviously.
 

@MylesWright_

I'll be back 3ing
Batman is better than Killer Frost but you don't see me constantly crying. Rico is the perfect example of someone that doesn't even play the game but will still open you up in footsies without a 50/50; maybe if Batman players used bats in the neutral game rather then for shit j2 pressure and blockstrings there would be better results
 

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
Batman is better than Killer Frost but you don't see me constantly crying. Rico is the perfect example of someone that doesn't even play the game but will still open you up in footsies without a 50/50; maybe if Batman players used bats in the neutral game rather then for shit j2 pressure and blockstrings there would be better results
That is literally what King is saying Batman needs to do.
 

ForeverKing

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This is an amazing line. People need to take this into consideration in every MU number.

Just a question, does this mean that Batman's jump-in mixups after MB grapple are easily blocked?
I wouldn't say easily blocked, Batman can make them ambiguous. He has to open you up first tho to get you in the MB grapple
 

ForeverKing

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He's a really good player. This would be a blow-up no matter what character he thinks is cool and dedicates time to.

I like how I'm getting put on blast so hard. I've never done the "dude these are my MU #'s. They're absolutely true because I'm the best."

How about,
"I think bane has 4 losing MU's and 2 of them (Batman, Sinestro) I admitted I could have been wrong (in just about every post), I let Biohazard regulate the Flash MU because he LIVES with Honeybee, and Deg bodied me with Zatanna and insisited that she wins, I have little to no say in that."



Ouch.
Honestly you up play Bane. I think he loses to Batgirl Martian Zod Flash Zatanna and possibly Lex
 

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
People still aren't utilizing pushblock as much as they could be vs. Batman.

Did you know that you can hit Batman out of active B3/F3s? As in, I do my f3, right? It's active on the screen and he's doing the move. You can d1/d2 it. Sure, that's where bats come in to try and prevent that, but the fact that you have that option is huge. This is to say nothing of all the stuff characters like Wonder Woman causes to whiff due to hitboxes.
 

Amplified$hotz

I like Tekken 8
GL losing to Sinestro 7-3
Joker losing to Aquaman 7-3
Joker losing to Green Arrow 7-3
GL losing 7-3 to Martian might be 6-4. Might.
Zod beating Green Lantern 7-3 unless it's hitbox
I think Green Lantern's hardest matchup is Zatanna.
 
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Amplified$hotz

I like Tekken 8
Also Zod is possibly better than Aquaman. Aqua might lose to GL, Lex, and Lobo. I think some say he might lose to Bane also. It's a topic of discussion imo.