Blind_Ducky
Princess of the Sisterhood
It might be. Not sure.Raven-BG, 3-7? @Blind_Ducky
It might be. Not sure.Raven-BG, 3-7? @Blind_Ducky
I agree with Mannimal. This is probably 4-6 at worse.Raven-BG, 3-7? @Blind_Ducky
Sinestro has ways of pushing Raven out. Then he can pretty much play his zoning game and he can outzone Raven unless she gets trait. However, his fear blast, especially MB Fear Blasts, can put a stop to getting demon mode. Raven wins the close range, but once she's out, Sinestro is winning the zoning game, and he can push her out.@Blind_Ducky can you explain why the sin-raven mu is 6-4 sin plz
watch my matches vs oxygen. Might help with the mu.After being directed to face a top Lobo on tym, I take back all my prior Raven/Lobo comments and agree with the 4-6 completely.
Controller throwing type of MU and definitely isn't a possible 5-5 like I argued in the past. The 4-6 sounds right. Tough one too.
EDIT: Yea that Batgirl number looks a little shaky lol.
Sinestro outfootsies her, his fireball being faster than all her specials shuts down her trait, his trait is broke, he punishes soul crush from pretty far with b13 into a vortex. He also can comeback against her while Raven has little to no comeback factor in the mu.@Blind_Ducky can you explain why the sin-raven mu is 6-4 sin plz
There's zero chance of batgirl being even. It's between best case is 4-6, worst case is 3-7. This match up hasn't been explored enough so I don't think anyone really can say with 100% certainty if it's either or.I agree with Mannimal. This is probably 4-6 at worse.
Sinestro has ways of pushing Raven out. Then he can pretty much play his zoning game and he can outzone Raven unless she gets trait. However, his fear blast, especially MB Fear Blasts, can put a stop to getting demon mode. Raven wins the close range, but once she's out, Sinestro is winning the zoning game, and he can push her out.
Yea I didn't realize how tough this MU could be until I played a really good Lobo and lost 20-9. I couldn't believe it, I was in shock lol. I was convinced it was 5-5 or an easy 4-6 at worst.watch my matches vs oxygen. Might help with the mu.
Ugh, stupid English. I mean to say the best was 4-6. I play this enough to confidently say that Batgirl isn't as bad, it's basically being patient and punishing her. Smoke bomb is punishable on block, empty void her bola and batarangs, and whatever you do, don't guess wrong on the mixup.There's zero chance of batgirl being even. It's between best case is 4-6, worst case is 3-7. This match up hasn't been explored enough so I don't think anyone really can say with 100% certainty if it's either or.
Also sinestros zoning is irrelevant against Raven because of her forward walk speed.
Problem with punishing teleport, it whiffs if you're holding Back. You have to be committed to waiting for it in order to punish, which allows her to do whatever she wants. Reflecting stuff 100% of the time isn't easy when she's mid screen doing bola cancels. Guessing wrong will happen eventually in her vortex.Ugh, stupid English. I mean to say the best was 4-6. I play this enough to confidently say that Batgirl isn't as bad, it's basically being patient and punishing her. Smoke bomb is punishable on block, empty void her bola and batarangs, and whatever you do, don't guess wrong on the mixup.
No dude trust the more you play it with a high level raven, you will see why Martian can kind of have his way with her at times but sometimes you have to take risks!!! She also has no true overhead mix ups and you can stuff her wake ups and or just knock that Hoe down and mix her up with orbs.. I mean there is many of ways to beat her with martian but it's not like hella easy to do so aha like it's not freeI wouldn't think orbs would look like his reflectable overhead projectile to people.. Maybe it's just online? Raven being free on knockdown is just a problem Raven has in general so I don't see how it makes this match up bad but not others. I only got to play this match up a lil bit but it felt fairly even.
So in other words. Superman beats everyone... lol.
PS: I don't see it being that bad for Raven kompared to other characters because she kan get a D1~Lift kombo punish if she guesses korrectly. Some characters don't even get a real punish.
Yeah. I kan see how he kan get the edge sometimes but good defense offsets that. On the other hand, from Martian's end, no amount of defense will stop the amount of chip you get from pillars. I tend to skew every match up to 5-5 though and in the end it really doesn't matter. It's just understanding your options and following through with them. Kompared to other match ups in this game, it really isn't that bad for Raven. Stuffing wake ups also depends on whether they delay it or not too so she kan katch you for it (You kan test this in training mode by recording the knockdown then timing a meaty, and then playing it back. Try to change your wake up timing. The komputer never does this and does it as fast as possible.)No dude trust the more you play it with a high level raven, you will see why Martian can kind of have his way with her at times but sometimes you have to take risks!!! She also has no true overhead mix ups and you can stuff her wake ups and or just knock that Hoe down and mix her up with orbs.. I mean there is many of ways to beat her with martian but it's not like hella easy to do so aha like it's not free
yeah that's true but orbs prevent her from chipping you to death! and you have to oh teleport sometimes too!!!once you get that life lead its all good ill take chip damage, but eventually im going to make a read and punish that slut... once you get familiar with the mu you will see what im saying!!!!yeah I don't stuff her wake ups but it is and option!!! but definitely one of my least options.. 6-4 mmh for sureYeah. I kan see how he kan get the edge sometimes but good defense offsets that. On the other hand, from Martian's end, no amount of defense will stop the amount of chip you get from pillars. I tend to skew every match up to 5-5 though and in the end it really doesn't matter. It's just understanding your options and following through with them. Kompared to other match ups in this game, it really isn't that bad for Raven. Stuffing wake ups also depends on whether they delay it or not too so she kan katch you for it (You kan test this in training mode by recording the knockdown then timing a meaty, and then playing it back. Try to change your wake up timing. The komputer never does this and does it as fast as possible.)
Haha.. Yeah but she does have a reflect. She has answers to your answers so I'm like whatever about it. If she loses fine, if it's even, that's fine too.yeah that's true but orbs prevent her from chipping you to death! and you have to oh teleport sometimes too!!!once you get that life lead its all good ill take chip damage, but eventually im going to make a read and punish that slut... once you get familiar with the mu you will see what im saying!!!!yeah I don't stuff her wake ups but it is and option!!! but definitely one of my least options.. 6-4 mmh for sure
It's not that bad. Slight Martian advantage.Yeah the Martian-Raven MU seems buttcheeks for Raven.
I have no idea. Probably better than most because of her walk speed.blind ducky in the zod mu what do you think would happen if the zod player had consistent headh.eight zodball spam??? (and knew the other intricacies of the match, like sometimes mb lasering on block for the pushback after a blocked push, so you can zone or trait summon) I know that raven cannot reflect zod ball spam really because she will eat another ball if she does
Ok, half a buttcheek on neutral stages. But on stages like Arkham Asylum it's the full moon.It's not that bad. Slight Martian advantage.
Fuck that stage in generalOk, half a buttcheek on neutral stages. But on stages like Arkham Asylum it's the full moon.
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The only problem I have with this is, is Nightwing really as hard to fight as the Flash?