lolwut? My Gamertag is KoloradoKush, I talk about having my Medical Marijuana card before in this thread. You again, are obviously not reading anything that I've said at all.
No, I got that. But because you justify your usage with being medicinal you, in my eyes, state that you are not in the 'stoners line of thought' and to me, you come off as someone who we're against it if only he didn't have a medical card. I'm guessing you
were against it before you got it.
Just like you said, there are negative and positive side-effects to everything. It all depends on how it is viewed. People view marijuana as bad, so it's bad. I never once said I agree with any of this.
You brought it up as an argument in support supports to keeping MH (Marihuana, I resent typing that word every time) illegal. And if you actually agreed to that, that could not have been an argument.
Your personal experiences does not equal every person in the world. You're not looking at the whole picture, just part of it. I never said I agree with how the world works, but the simple fact is; Someone finds a problem with something, blows it out of proportion, and it becomes illegal. Like I said before, everything you're stating is an opinion on it being 'good'.
I never called anything good. I purposefully surrounded everything that refers to good or bad with quotes (I might have missed a few, though) because those are not ideas that I live by. I know the masses live by those ideas and that's how I mean them. Also, i think it's kind of strange for you to say now that you don't agree with how the world works. Because I've spent most of the time in this thread arguing why I don't agree with it. But you'll probably say that you never said you disagree with it.
You talk as if the world is perfect and the honor system is in play. All I was saying ( Which strangely enough you even said yourself ) was that everything has a negative side-effect. If the majority see the bad side, then the object is bad, even if it really isn't. As soon as the everyone starts to look on the positive side, it becomes a good object. Again, not saying I agree with this, but this is generally how the world works.
I don't act as though the world is perfect but I'm doing my best to move towards such a world. There will never be a perfect world, but if we can just let people free, don't interfere with what others do as long as it doesn't bother you we are well on our way. A good way to do that I think is through these kinds of discussions.
Don't remember who said this, but a quote I'll never forget; There is no good or evil in the world. Only two sides with opposing views.
I've lived by that for as long as I can remember.
You're 100% correct, everyone lives the way they want and no one way is correct. The reason I asked for facts is simple; I knew you couldn't come up with any. At that point it simply becomes a he said - she said argument. Neither side will win, because neither side is correct. You are exactly like the people in the article, just because you think it should be legal means it should be legal. Your opinion was narrow minded, completely ignoring the other side of the coin. Simply because you don't see the negative effects doesn't mean they aren't there. Just like people who don't see the positive effects, it doesn't mean they aren't there.
What? 'Just because I think it should be legal means it should be legal?' Isn't that what having an opinion means? You said just before that you didn't agree with how the world 'works'. That sounds to me like an opinion. And by your definition that would make you.. narrow minded. I'm not entirely agains that actually. An opinion is always caused by a lack of insight or appreciation(which can be seen as emotional insight, as far as I'm concerned). But that's what subjective beings like you and me are supposed to have. All consciousness is subjective meaning that no view is complete. We are supposed to act on that and that is your place (if you will) in the masses that ultimately determine what will be accepted and what not. I'm not sure however if I understand what you mean with that other side of the coin... Most negative side effects rely on the bad view that people have towards it, they are the cause of most negative side effects themselves. Maybe I'm not seeing the negative side effects you have in mind. Care to explain that? And please don't refer to the article. I'm interested in the way that
you see it.
I feel like everything you said simply solidified my original statement, which was fairly open on purpose. Everything you've said was your own personal experience, not putting into account the combined experience of everyone else. You don't get to decide how things work, the mass does. As of right now, the mass deems marijuana a threat and it's going to stay that way until the mass changes it's mind ( Which hopefully will happen in 10 to 15 years, with a new generation coming up into power ).
I'm not sure what exactly you are trying to say here but it seems as though you don't want an opinion because it would deny the world knowledge that you seem to have. You just go with the masses. That's fine, if that's what you're saying. I'm not judging that. If you mean that you have a telepathic link to everyone one on the planet and thus be able to take in account the combined experience of others than I must disappoint you in that not everyone is 'gifted' with such ability, at least I am not. I am aware that legalization will not come soon because of how people think and how politics work but that doesn't stop me from wanting to see it legal.
What I think is strange is that you 'hope' for the masses to change their mind, but not now or soon, but within 10 or 15 years or so. I would like to see the masses change their mind as fast as possible and I'm willing to put effort into it in a way that speeds up the process. If there are any real threats make people aware of that instead of have them afraid of threats that do not exist.
Furthermore, the masses do not decide how things work. That would be true
if there were actual democracy(among other factors). I think that if there were that kind of democracy, mankind would evolve more quickly but the small part of people in charge wish to remain in charge and the rest has television. Now, if 1% of the wrong people (the people in charge) are against legalization while the rest is in favor, it will stay illegal. And if that 1% decides tomorrow that MH will be legal and that it's not nearly as bad as they made them believe all that time, the masses will accept it.
As for my religion, I'm not religious. Taoist to be exact. Being mentally impaired, I was dropped on my head as a kid. Have the scar to prove it. Although these seem like unintelligent attacks on me specifically as a person, and don't really have anything to do with what was being said. If you wish to play a game of dodge and parry wordplay, I'd be glad to take it to a PM. Otherwise I'd like to keep this debate civilized please.
I should've phrased that a little different. I do think people who live by facts are either religious or mentally impaired and you
were asking for facts... To say now that you only asked for facts because you knew I couldn't come up with any seems a little bit cheap, especially after you praised someone who
did 'speak truth'. The phrase 'know how the world works' also implies some kind of factual knowledge. That kind of 'knowledge' is narrow minded in my view. And to be narrow minded is to be mentally impaired.
But it makes a lot of sense that you are a Taoist, especially if I read through your posts with that in mind. For a long period of my life I refered to myself as a Taoist and didn't really want to have an opinion because I thought that, if one would look at things from every possible perspective, the opinions associated with every perspective would nullify each every other. But that would be objective and that's not really who I am. Nobody can live their live as if they are an objective being. That is not living, that would be existing. I don't want to just exist, i want to life. Therefore I have to express my opinion and it will always be subjective. And just as much as I want to live, I want others to live. Freely. Without judgement.
As for judgement; I don't really care how many bibles, thoras, korans or other 'books of facts that tell one how to live' tell people that drugs are 'illegal', to use the terminology the so called book of the law uses. I
do care when people like you and me who are enjoying themselves in a way that hurts no one, get negatively judged because of the way they choose to do it by. That kind of pisses me off.
Bringing some hype to this thread, lol. I do have a question for all the other stoners who play though, and I know this will be different depending on the person. I am curious though, who goes to tournaments or events blitzed? Heading into the MLG tourney in Raleigh, I'm debating if I should smoke before or not. I feel like it might calm my nerves, but at the same time I'm slightly worried the paranoia will set in and make things worse for me since it's my first big event. Anyone got any experience?
I wouldn't do it. Those times I smoked on the train weren't very good. It was cool that I was able to but that did not make it a good idea. If you are not used to smoking or being high in public it's a good way to get paranoia. If you are from Colorado (or anywhere other than the Netherlands for that matter) there are good chances that people will be against the whole idea and just knowing that won't make you feel better. And it can occupy your mind during the game to the point were you even forget to play.
I'm knocking off typing as of now, I should have gone home hour and a half ago. Got caught up in typing this stuff up. Thanks anyone for reading, if you did. It's quite the essay.
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