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Every SF tournament I've ever been to, the Honda players put an extra punch input on the top right button to make hands easier and other various things for button binds. Koreans are known to bind the Back/Select button so they can B-Link their jabs in SF4.

I'm going to try it and see if it helps with the 2~dbf input.
Again, I feel like it should be expected that at a high level of play opponents execution should be great. Matches should come down to decision making, reads and matchup options. Hard to blame losing on your opponents ability to execute correctly, I don't see people holding onto their clash because they are assuming their opponent will miss execute and drop their combo.
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
Let's go with this. So, what exactly didn't I do to fix every problem that came up? I wanna know because there's a blatant cause and effect here. There were people above me that were in charge making decisions not presented to me.

I don't know how you go from praises for fixing an easy situation to shitting all over everything in more complicated situations. You are friendly and eager to help out when you're useful but then you take a big shit and think you have all the answers when you can't.
Got it

Driving now from work, will respond in detail late tonight and cover every point
 

Indecisive

We'll burn you all—that is your fate!
You must understand then that levels of introversion vary then I'm sure, what's easy for you may not be for someone else. That's all I'm saying
I understand where you are coming from. But that person decided to come out to a big tournament. Thats a huge step right there. Asking people for games i think is easier than coming out to a big event. More so if its your first big event. This BTW was technically my First Big Event. Although i did go to APEX and it was amazing Final Round was on a whole different level. You sometimes need to just tell yourself that shit im at this big tournament. I actually went. Im here. There are so many different players. i know it can be nervous at the start but use your own energy or the energy around to keep you going and to ask for matches. Anyone can do it. And everyone is willing to play. Except me Vs Other Shazam Players. Fuck that Noise.
 

Indecisive

We'll burn you all—that is your fate!
ALSO. Question. How do you know Arma Was playing for 3 hours straight. Did you actually sit next to him with a timer and waited for him. I feel like you may be over exaggerating the time. Also he was probably getting ready for his pools which was one of the last ones of the day. You don't know the schedule that they work when helping to run final round. And as for him Taking up the station again just ask. Arma will play Casuals with anybody and its a blast. Also Also how do you know that when you were not watching him(Im assuming that you didnt watch him for 3 hours thinking to yourself oh hey let me not say anything and just say shit on the internet in a thread) he was doing other stuff and then sat back down to play. And if you did sit next to him watching your phone at the clock every 30 minutes i have to ask WHY?
 

Indecisive

We'll burn you all—that is your fate!
I was about to say...

I'm glad you were able to give me advice anyways, very helpful.
Zyphox Gave me some advice. Im going to try it out and see how it works. Hopefully you get to watch the Video of me playing your brother. BTW He actually did a very good job. Better than the other Deathstroke's I have played against not including Silent Jay. But thats cause he knows my tendencies and such.
 

SZSR

Noob
Zyphox Gave me some advice. Im going to try it out and see how it works. Hopefully you get to watch the Video of me playing your brother. BTW He actually did a very good job. Better than the other Deathstroke's I have played against not including Silent Jay. But thats cause he knows my tendencies and such.
Will we see that advice come into play at the break this week? I did see the fight actually, I just hadn't remembered seeing it when you asked about it. I liked how you both played.
 
It totally answered your question, you want the answer to be something else. The reason I couldn't quickly load my card was due to poor advertising. I still could have done it. I hate having to reiterate things from multiple posts.
im not talking about loading it quickly im talking it about loading it weeks ahead. so that its not even necessary to take the risk of something not working when youre there.
 

LEGI0N47

I like to play bad characters
ALSO. Question. How do you know Arma Was playing for 3 hours straight. Did you actually sit next to him with a timer and waited for him. I feel like you may be over exaggerating the time. Also he was probably getting ready for his pools which was one of the last ones of the day. You don't know the schedule that they work when helping to run final round. And as for him Taking up the station again just ask. Arma will play Casuals with anybody and its a blast. Also Also how do you know that when you were not watching him(Im assuming that you didnt watch him for 3 hours thinking to yourself oh hey let me not say anything and just say shit on the internet in a thread) he was doing other stuff and then sat back down to play. And if you did sit next to him watching your phone at the clock every 30 minutes i have to ask WHY?
Actually yeah I was keeping track of the time every so often. Time flyes when you're having fun though and I'm sure many there didn't even realize how much of it had gone by because there were a lot of good matches to see. And yes I know he's a great dude and will play with anyone. I did play a set with him on Friday and personally thought he was one of coolest dudes I got to play with. When he started playing I did not see him get up and no I did not loom over his sholder, I was watching the stream matches but the casuals were within view. Also what part of their schedule involves no leadership over the stations and the stream running everything on 1 set up for that long? No one can answer that or doesn't want to. I've never seen that before. There was no leadership on the floor, period. It sucks that I have to blow the tourney up and these dudes in particular and I understand you wanting to defend them because like I said, they're actually cool people. But there is explaining that needs to take place.
 

RM Jonnitti

Hot Dog
Here is my 2 cents. I'll make this as short as possible but please read it

Final Round is my favorite fgc event to go to. ShinBlanka puts on a great show, manages to show every game love and every game gets some sort of stream time. However, Injustice at Final Round there were a few hiccups.

The issue with the consoles not being hotfixed is a dick. I understand that consoles need to be up to date for tournament play, but when consoles need to constantly be re-hotfixed because they aren't connected to the internet, its a dick. we cant have all setups plugged into the internet at all times, thats just not practical.

I also had an issue that the pools got combined. I feel that this is one of the reasons why shit took forever. I feel that smaller pools would have went by much quicker and we could have ran multiple at a time. This also fucked up seeding which made me have 2 other Jersey players in my pool (jrosa and masta cj). I can understand CJ's case because his sponsor didn't prereg him for injustice but there is no reason that I should have to be in Rosa's pool, because both of us preregistered.

I also felt that there was barely any matches being played off stream. Almost every single station that wasn't on the stream had casuals being played on. I personally feel like I'm at fault here because I noticed it and was not very vocal about it, and thought about it for kinda long before I asked if they were running matches off stream. I felt that we tried to get almost every single match streamed, and when you have a tournament with numbers like we did at Final Round (please dont pull this third most entrants bullshit), you obviously can't do that. If someone is playing casuals, you can just tell them to get off and unless they're some sort of dickhead, they will get off with no problem. Now, I wasn't in the room for a good part of the tournament because I was bouncing around from room to room watching various different tournaments, but when I was in the room, it really felt like almost every setup that was in the ballroom was used for casuals.

please. never be discouraged to kick someone off a setup that is in the ball room if they aren't playing a tournament match.
 

CRUM

Noob
I'm still honestly trying to understand what the advantage of merging the brackets were. Weren't they played as if the two that were merged were separate anyway? It was explained briefly on stream and it confused me from the get-go. It almost seemed like having upwards of 120 people was a downfall for this tournament. There were a lot of overly stacked pools from what I understood. Id like to hear 16 Bit and Brady weigh in because at one point they were really going off on all of the misguided BS that was promised beforehand, which never happened i.e late registration policy.
 
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Fromundaman

I write too much.
Imagine pressing the change stance button and instead of changing stance it did 20 perfectly slow IAZB for u w one click or in mk 15 perfect 2 Ndc w kabal
That's a bit exaggerated, but you know what, even if it did do a slow IAZB every time I pressed the button, if I asked the TO in advance and got the OK to use it, then I would be pissed if it got removed in top 8.
(By the way, considering one side says they got the OK and the other says the opposite, I don't know which is right, so don't take that away from this post.)

Also as someone mentioned, if we're removing his "Up-forward" and "Up-back" buttons, then why haven't Infiltration and I forget who else's instant plink dash buttons been called into question before?

lol you think the people lined up behind you are there to watch you play? Very hollywood
What are you talking about? Streams exist precisely because people want to watch good players play.
When I attend tournaments, I always spectate as well as play friendlies. If I don't ask to get in, then I'm watching your match. I will gladly watch 30 friendlies in a row if they are entertaining to watch, but when I want to get in I'll let you know and hop on.


Resolved after the tourney happened??

Thats a failure

All of this should have been understood before the tourney who was the only person allowed to run the tourney

This was a failure in leadership , saying problem resolved translates to "sorry you Spent your money and came to an ill prepared event but when u spend your money again we will get it right"
Okay, while I understand things went wrong, what more can they possibly do now other than apologize and say they are making sure that whatever mistake happened won't happen again?

Yes, it would have been better to fix this at the event, but no one knew it was unsanctioned at the event.

Similarly, I actually have to agree with @Shock on this; giving out the guy's name serves no purpose if they already dealt with the issue. It will just lead to that person being constantly harassed and chased out of the community for having made a mistake while volunteering to run a major.
 
@LEGI0N47 I can assure you that IF you do go to another tournament and I'm running it, you won't have a shit time. If shit hits the fan though, I personally will pay back your fee.
Problem 1 -
Our original room was changed to a smaller one because FR was under the impression that anime was goimg to blow up.

Solution: We requested an alternative to staff and once Larry was involved we were switched to the capcom room.

Problem 2 -
Internet. The easiest way to explain this as usual there was a chance to have house internet, which WAS available in the tiny room. I have a verizon 4G jetpack now but did not attempt to add data to it until I was positive I needed it. One might ask why I hadn't added data to it before the tournament. If we had wired interent I would likely throw away $90 since I have little use for the jetpack outside of streaming in locations that don't have wired intent. At the time I realized this was necessary, I discovered that I cannot activate the device as advertised and Pig of the Hut assisted me.

Solution: After that he used his own jetpack again to help us out, however the connection was extremely slow and unstable on my stream rig. Pig was about to use his lap top to assist with the stream in combination with my equipment but after some ip conflict resolution (I believe), I managed to get a minimum connection quality which is what resulted in the steam everyone saw for MK.

Problem 3 - the xbox hot fix debacle. This was an issue that continued throughout the night and needed to be addressed multiple times. Because of this, we only had 2 or 3 systems at the start of a 126 player tournament. At one point the stream station was turned off and the issue was caused here, in addition my capture card freaked out and wouldn't accept HDMI.

Solution: Ask for the quickest way to verify all system hotfixes, isolate the real reason it was happening because players were giving multiple reasons as to why and whether or not you could fix it without signing on. We patched the wireless systems by cell phone access point, and waited for a temporary wired connection to patch all non wireless systems. This takes time. The problem was fixed over time and matches were run. The wired connection was shared from the capcom stream so we could not use it for anything but patching.

As for downtime due to stream issues, I imperatively insisted that pools continued to be run while I fixed the stream. I appreciate Devil May Spy taking command of the stream because had he not, many of the problems would have been left unresolved a players would be playing non hot fixed systems all night for example. There also comes a point where the stream must become secondary and the tournament needs to go on. DMS also wanted to run pools because he was official staff, not a random volunteer (ie FlipKev who also supplied more 4G for Injustice) but you can't stack the stream and run pools properly at the same time, I think he learned that. Whether he runs pools or the stream, he is helping out. At one point I insisted that later pools begin when I knew a previous pool was nearly done and setups were not being used properly. People don't look at the fact we were nearly 3 hours behind at one point and still got done just before midnight.

Problem 4 - the merging of the brackets. We were told this was done for one of two reasons. Either we didn't hit the 128 player cap for a 16 pool tournament, or due to the issue with the non hotfixed systems, they were condensed to speed up the tournament. I don't see how that would help.

Solution: I talked to Larry about the merging but that didn't happen until after many matches were run. Brackets were reseeded because the method of merging caused immediate conflicts, and this again, takes time. Brackets were run as seeding was completed. We eventually discovered that the merging was unauthorized by the room lead or Larry. Again, we had the official printed pools given to us by a trusted TO with merging instructions so we had no way to know this.

Understand that I do everything I can to help you guys, even when I'm just there to stream the event or supply equipment. ANYONE ragging on Frantastic or Darth Arma needs to get a grip. Those guys are there for you and work with what they are given while trying to improvise as much as possible. They get pulled away from duties for other staff related things and are allotted breaks. Usually it's during the pools they play in.

The PL incident is something I wish hadn't happened. That matter has been resolved privately.

I might have missed some stuff but the end result was a

FUCKING.HYPE.TOURNAMENT

and more people THANKED me then shit on me at the end of it so go shit in your hats. I'd love to see anyone deal with the avalanche this weekend presented and have the majority of people go home happy.

First off @Shock thanks for bringing systems and running the streams for both MK9 and Injustice. just wanted to ask a couple things that you had mentioned though if thats cool.
The fact that they had numbers in hand once closing down pre reg should have given them a good idea that anime was not going to over shadow us. Therfore why continue to move us and from the sound of it have us moved again once they were wrong.

internet im not even gonna talk about since we all know you do what you can with what you have so thank you

The Hotfix issues we ran into at KIT as well as it seems most tournaments are having the same issues and from what i understood from Jim about the Hotfix is that it becomes undone when player 2 signs into a profile i mean for the most part do we just need to have a sign that reminds everyone about this???

and for the merging ill be honest they did it for all the games but honestly why?? i mean we could have blown through all the pools had they been a little smaller

So for anyone who thinks they know what's going on, think again.
A grip you say. Like the one that Arma had on a casual station for 3 hours. That's his break? So meanwhile every station gets mobbed except for the stream station for around 4+hours. I really felt like the players were being taken care of. Remember when I said that there are things "I just don't know." A staff member being pulled for another duty is something I can understand. But the others left behind did nothing but run 1 station. I apoligize if this seems harsh but I don't feel wrong saying something about what I witnessed and what transpired because of it.
@LEGI0N47 okay bro where did you get the idea that @DarthArma Had a grip on a casual station for 3 hours i was in and out all day and while i saw him on their he was also moving around and running pools as well before @Emperor DMS said they needed him to do something and he went over and worked on the stream setup.....i mean honestly they worked there asses off for the community this weekend



@Kitana Prime @AK SaltFace @flipkev Thanks so much for commentating once your pools where over you guys did a shit load this weekend just like you did for me @KIT

@Emperor DMS @Frantastic23 thanks for bracket running

honestly we need to look at this weekend and improve on the aspect of our community and events as a whole
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
That's a bit exaggerated, but you know what, even if it did do a slow IAZB every time I pressed the button, if I asked the TO in advance and got the OK to use it, then I would be pissed if it got removed in top 8.
(By the way, considering one side says they got the OK and the other says the opposite, I don't know which is right, so don't take that away from this post.)

Also as someone mentioned, if we're removing his "Up-forward" and "Up-back" buttons, then why haven't Infiltration and I forget who else's instant plink dash buttons been called into question before?


What are you talking about? Streams exist precisely because people want to watch good players play.
When I attend tournaments, I always spectate as well as play friendlies. If I don't ask to get in, then I'm watching your match. I will gladly watch 30 friendlies in a row if they are entertaining to watch, but when I want to get in I'll let you know and hop on.



Okay, while I understand things went wrong, what more can they possibly do now other than apologize and say they are making sure that whatever mistake happened won't happen again?

Yes, it would have been better to fix this at the event, but no one knew it was unsanctioned at the event.

Similarly, I actually have to agree with @Shock on this; giving out the guy's name serves no purpose if they already dealt with the issue. It will just lead to that person being constantly harassed and chased out of the community for having made a mistake while volunteering to run a major.
At this point nothing but sweeping it under the rug does worse
 

Indecisive

We'll burn you all—that is your fate!
Will we see that advice come into play at the break this week? I did see the fight actually, I just hadn't remembered seeing it when you asked about it. I liked how you both played.
Yes we will. Its so Simple. But its so good. Also Going to try what Digit told me. I also forgot to tell you guys to instead of jumping out of the corner after HM teleport out of the corner. If they try to WU they will do it in the wrong direction towards the corner.
 

trufenix

bye felicia
But if NOBODY speaks up, then how are they to know that you want to play? If a hundred people really want to play and they are right behind the casual station, but nobody says a word then, to me they are just watching my matches. SPEAK UP.

I might sound like an asshole... but ask anyone who has asked if they can get games at a station I was playing on at Revolutions or SCR (the bubonic plague year) @Krayzie @Flawedzilla @Folux182 and many others... I'm a pretty nice guy.
Again, this is not about people not having the balls to speak up. Its about people thinking monopolizing a station is okay. If you really think its courteous to come to a tournament and just own a casual station because "nobody spoke up" that's fine, nobody can take that from you, but that still doesn't make it right.
 

SZSR

Noob
Yes we will. Its so Simple. But its so good. Also Going to try what Digit told me. I also forgot to tell you guys to instead of jumping out of the corner after HM teleport out of the corner. If they try to WU they will do it in the wrong direction towards the corner.
Like after finishing a combo that leaves me in the corner? Okay.
 

LEGI0N47

I like to play bad characters
@LEGI0N47 okay bro where did you get the idea that @DarthArma Had a grip on a casual station for 3 hours i was in and out all day and while i saw him on their he was also moving around and running pools as well before @Emperor DMS said they needed him to do something and he went over and worked on the stream setup.....i mean honestly they worked there asses off for the community this weekend



@Kitana Prime @AK SaltFace @flipkev Thanks so much for commentating once your pools where over you guys did a shit load this weekend just like you did for me @KIT

@Emperor DMS @Frantastic23 thanks for bracket running

honestly we need to look at this weekend and improve on the aspect of our community and events as a whole
It's not an idea, I watched it happen. There are a lot of people defending them which I understand but if they were truely running things perhaps they can explain how every set up except for the stream station was running casuals for hours on end.
 

Fromundaman

I write too much.
At this point nothing but sweeping it under the rug does worse
I'm pretty sure this doesn't qualify as sweeping it under the rug. The administration running the tournament are aware they messed up (And oh boy are we making them aware!) and we were just told they were taking care of it internally.

This would be like if after the last hotfix we demanded to know who was supposed to fix Batgirl's Bola glitches and obviously messed up so we could line up outside their house with pitchforks.
 

CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
Administrator
NRS is the easiest community to get games with top players IMO.
Apparently top 10 IGAU players need the games anyway, or they're knocked out in pools at the next major by someone they'd never seen coming :p

I feel like at this stage of the game's life, people should be playing whoever they can find and grabbing sets with as many diff. character specialists as possible. The minute you declare yourself 'top' in Year One is the minute you're blindsided by something you didn't expect.

Bit was 100% right when he said that at this point, you have to consider everyone a threat.
 
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