You can stuff all his wakeups except up venom so play with that. Yes hold back when they get into mb venom mode. Body splash is super trip guardable. mb charge jails up close on wake up. contrary to what most people say, I believe it is a tough match up.
I find that WoWo wins the neutral game too easily with the better footsies and tools for this MU: gets pacing control, air dominance, out ranges us by a lot, doesn't need meter, and has a better WU than us in regards to how well we can handle each other's oki games. Both are corner dominating characters, but she has a better wall carry than us, and a better corner game in general in my opinion(not by too much in either regard, but still tilts toward her). I just think she has a clear advantage in the neutral game and her momentum can take her further than ours in the match up with lower levels of risk and difficulty.
see i don't agree, flash is really underrated when it comes to footsies tools, when characters like aquaman, WoWo and superman and sinestro have to approach flash i think it becomes in his favor because there are more chance for them to mess up and you capitalize on their mistakes with huge damage. trust me when i say that both characters are messed up in the corner, both have anti character tech ( i play foxy all the time and we go even or slightly his favor), you can duck and punish b2 lasso with duck then LC which stops them from ever using that, even in the corner. making her whiff her b1 when you approach her is key in the MU. dash right outside the range of b11 and play footsies, i never struggle against any WW player and i actually use her myself on the side (on some secret GGA off stream shit). i think its 5 - 5 IMO you may have different experience against her so idk
Sinestro doesn't have to approach him... and when he does, he has trait.
midscreen when i have life lead? like literally i just hit you with 58% and were sitting right outside jump distance, the same spacing will alow me to dash up right outside your d1 range and punish any air axe attempt, any trait cancel attempt and and fear blast attempt, the sweet spot i called it back when you couldn't b12. you have to sit there and wait on my life lead or come to me what are your other options?
I think you exagerrate reacting to Sinestro's movements. You aren't going to be punishing trait charge on reaction; it's a read. If you have that big of a life lead then I am just going to be sitting back and building the trait. Anything you try to do to stop it is a risk unless Flash is literally in Sinestro's face. And anyways it's not a "sweet spot" anymore because he has B12 for footsies now.
exactly but still b12 is over rated, once i catch your first backdash on a read with LC MB it would be very risky to do it again, so then when you do b12 you eat a 50/50 (in my head atleast) and am not worried about you building trait anymore, i'll let you do something risky if i have the life lead, like trait cancel into whatever or whiffing air axe, once i have you in the corner your mine XD
meh, that's the Flash in general though. He has a strong corner game. The B12 carries standard risk-reward. If it hits I get damage into a vortex or trait build, and if it's blocked I have to guess. The LC MB is also a risk on the Flash's part, so I don't mind backdashing to make you respect the option.
2/10 please elaborate on why its 6-4 in the first place and why jumping is important in this MU
Uppercut loses to J3 (clean) unless the Joker-player mis-spaces it and have you seen Flash's backdash? It is his best tool here though, I agree. That, or blocking and allowing the Joker player to do whatever the fuck he pleases, like I said.
No need to be like that.
Your D2 can AA joker, if I want to hit you before you can react ( which you still can ) with flying uppercut then I can't do a deep J3, that means that ducking and D2ing will work because J3s active frames will be up. Or you can train and focus on anti airing with flying uppercut all the time. Gunshot is almost completely useless in the matchup, Joker has absolutely no defense when up close, no way to open you up, no way to force you in once you have the lifelead. Joker has less damage, mediocre wakeups and barely any midscreen setups along with no safe jump vs flying uppercut.
